[QUOTE=CyberHawk;44348606]do you throw your relatives in a dumpster when they die seeing as they're just decaying organic matter?[/QUOTE]
different scenario as a dead body was once human, whereas a fetus that was aborted at an early stage of pregnancy never became one.
This is so fucking metal.
i can just imagine some guy with a an old conductor hat shoveling dead babies into a furnace while whistling a tune
So what happens now do they give you the fetus in a shoebox or something.
We can't burn it so you need to go find a crematorium or leave it by the side of the road or whatever
[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;44348662]Fine. I'll treat these fetuses the same way I treat everyone else I know.
When they're dead and gone, send the remains to a reclaiming facility. Extract every single piece of conceivably useful matter (stem cells here) and do what you will for the rest. Burn it, bury it, put it on display in one of those human body exhibits.
All that matters with the dead is that you respect their final wishes and their legacy. If they really wanted some tangible part to be buried somewhere special then by all means bury their body sans organs or something. But to leave some arbitrary part of someone in the ground just so you feel better for a while is not only pointless, but from a utilitarian standpoint, wasteful at best and outright selfish at worst.
This, by the way, is coming from someone whose entire family has unanimously agreed, on their own accord, to do exactly what I have just explained. I feel a death is far more meaningful if it is beneficial to others and not just a time to mourn.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't this a big thing in Brave New World?
So, they banned the hospital from doing this practice only so that the aborted fetuses will be incinerated somewhere else where they won't squeeze energy/heat out of them? Because that's like, satanically evil.
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Which is to say, I don't get this. What else are they gonna do with it?
"Bio-hazard disposal" probably means the same exact thing the hospital did, just a fancier name for it like "Standard Issue."
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;44349487]So, they banned the hospital from doing this practice only so that the aborted fetuses will be incinerated somewhere else where they won't squeeze energy/heat out of them? Because that's like, satanically evil.[/QUOTE]
yes. its ok to incinerate fetuses as long as you feel really really bad about it being beneficial to you
[QUOTE=Terminutter;44348536]But it's not a human being, it's a bundle of stem cells. That's why it was allowed to be aborted. Callous as it sounds, it's a simple infection control policy, like most surgical or clinical equipment will be autoclaved or incinerated. The fact the heat from the incineration is used is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]
Under the Human Tissue Act hospitals have to ask the parents of the aborted child whether they want the child to be buried, cremated or incinerated (or, in the actual wording, have to receive permission for any purpose they intend to use the foetus for). However, some hospitals have been neglecting to ask the parents and have been incinerating the foetus with other medical waste - which contravenes the act's requirement that the incineration of the foetus is done separately from medical waste to avoid emotional trauma for the parents. Yes, the incineration could still be used to heat water and produce energy but it has to be done separate to the incineration of other waste.
While the cells themselves are practically worthless this is an issue due to the negligence of some hospitals in respecting the wishes of bereaved parents.
[QUOTE=rhx123;44348799]We have a [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9101874/Minister-praises-plan-to-heat-swimming-pool-from-fires-of-crematorium.html"]crematorium that heats a swimming pool[/URL] and I think the idea's great.
I'd love the fact the even when I'm dead, I'm doing something useful.[/QUOTE]
Get a sky burial. Or just drop dead in a forest.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;44348950]The problem is they're using them to heat the building. It's pretty distasteful in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I can see where you're coming from but at least they're being useful (as horrible as it may sound). When I'm dead I don't really care if people do some weird crap to my body if its to benefit people in some way
[QUOTE=C.Barkington;44348444]An AI would definitely ask this question, but not a human being.
Please state your ID, Software version and intent.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;44348401]Biohazard disposal.[/QUOTE]
Basically all biohazard material is incinerated, the hospital is just doing it on their own premises instead of sending it off, and some reclaiming the heat.
My local pool is heated by the local crematorium. What else are you going to do with the corpses?
[QUOTE=aurum481;44348383]this reminds of the cremating facility (in germany?) which reclaimed heat from the burning to generate some power.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure there was plans to heat a swimming pool with excess heat from a crematorium.
Aren't fetuses a source of stemcells? Or was that one episode of South Park really misleading?
Isn't incineration the fate of all organic bio-hazardous material? That's what pea-sized mashed fetuses are, aren't they?
I pictured a fiery cremator with a big red sign overhead saying "FEED ME BABIES"
[QUOTE=rhx123;44348799]We have a [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9101874/Minister-praises-plan-to-heat-swimming-pool-from-fires-of-crematorium.html"]crematorium that heats a swimming pool[/URL] and I think the idea's great.
I'd love the fact the even when I'm dead, I'm doing something useful.[/QUOTE]
I want to be as useless in death as I was in life though.
Bury me with my pc.
they should be at least opening the windows so the heat is not actually beneficial
Burn, baby, burn.
(disco inferno)
its like in the giver, everyone gets recycled
how is this any different than cremation?
how dare they incinerate unwanted husks of carbon
[QUOTE=The Baconator;44352871]how is this any different than cremation?[/QUOTE]
Cremation is a ceremony and the family is given the remains to hold onto once all is said and done. Incineration is when the remains are treated as medical waste and are incinerated in bulk with other items (you don't get the ashes with this option).
morbid energy solutions.
[QUOTE=aurum481;44348383]this reminds of the cremating facility (in germany?) which reclaimed heat from the burning to generate some power.[/QUOTE]
As morbid as this sounds it kinda sounds like a good idea. Honestly when it comes down to it I wouldn't be opposed to my body being used to generate power after I am gone.
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Of course consent is really important, you can't just go around doing this to any body or foetuses without asking.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44348389]So what will they do with them now?[/QUOTE]
where do you think johnson's baby oil comes from?
[QUOTE=AK'z;44353188]morbid energy solutions.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a thrash metal name.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44348389]So what will they do with them now?[/QUOTE]
probably still cremate them since you can't throw them in the trash anyways, i really don't see the difference though, incinerating it as medical waste or cremating it as dead bodies, you are still burning them
This case is a prime example of emotion getting in the way of logic.
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