Coal miners forced to attend Romney event and donate to campaign
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[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]I'm not gonna argue with you any further. You just keep on living life bending over for your employers like a little robot.[/QUOTE]
Spot the angst
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]Fantasy? Really?
I'm not gonna argue with you any further. You just keep on living life bending over for your employers like a little robot.
It isn't that difficult. One of my friends has 15K sitting idle for a rainy day, and he's living paycheck to paycheck too. He could live for six months on that alone, and he's got a wife to take care of as well.
It's really simple to save up a rainy day fund. Just don't buy a big-ass fucking flatscreen the moment you get a job, don't take out four credit cards, don't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well, and generally don't be a moron with your money. Before you know it you'll have a rainy day fund that will keep the lights on for a couple of months. Fucking hell, this isn't rocket science.
But I'm not gonna argue it any further. If you lot want to keep living under the assumption that you'll have work the next day feel free. Me? Personally? I'll bank up every spare cent I have.[/QUOTE]
You know its a little hard to start 10K savings when you're living paycheck by paycheck.
[QUOTE]This past June, Mitt Romney spoke to the National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB), and told them to threaten their employees and “make it very clear” that they must support his campaign or they could lose their jobs.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]
It isn't that difficult. One of my friends has 15K sitting idle for a rainy day, and he's living paycheck to paycheck too.[/QUOTE]
obviously you don't know what living paycheck to paycheck is
if you have 15,000 in the bank, you aren't living paycheck to paycheck by definition, genius.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]It's really simple to save up a rainy day fund. Just don't buy a big-ass fucking flatscreen the moment you get a job, don't take out four credit cards, don't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well, and generally don't be a moron with your money. Before you know it you'll have a rainy day fund that will keep the lights on for a couple of months. Fucking hell, this isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE]
not only is this dumb
[quote]don't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well[/quote]
that's also a horrible idea. buying a cheaper used car is going to be very unreliable. you can save yourself a lot of money and time wasted by going with an expensive newer car which has service, warranty, and likely better gas mileage.
you wanna argue with a jew about saving money then let's go goy
[QUOTE=thisispain;37451543]obviously you don't know what living paycheck to paycheck is
if you have 15,000 in the bank, you aren't living paycheck to paycheck by definition, genius.
not only is this dumb
that's also a horrible idea. buying a cheaper used car is going to be very unreliable. you can save yourself a lot of money and time wasted by going with an expensive newer car which has service, warranty, and likely better gas mileage.
you wanna argue with a jew about saving money then let's go goy[/QUOTE]
And he's also very intelligently generalizing everyone who lives close to the poverty line.
I can't comprehend what sort of logic (or lack thereof) goes into these kinds of ideas.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37451543]obviously you don't know what living paycheck to paycheck is
if you have 15,000 in the bank, you aren't living paycheck to paycheck by definition, genius.
not only is this dumb
that's also a horrible idea. buying a cheaper used car is going to be very unreliable. you can save yourself a lot of money and time wasted by going with an expensive newer car which has service, warranty, and likely better gas mileage.
you wanna argue with a jew about saving money then let's go goy[/QUOTE]
While thats true in the short term a cheaper car is easier and more accessible then having to spend money on lease/loan every month. Most people think in the short term when their money is at stake and the economy is shit.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]Fantasy? Really?
I'm not gonna argue with you any further. You just keep on living life bending over for your employers like a little robot.
It isn't that difficult. One of my friends has [B]15K sitting idle for a rainy day, and he's living paycheck to paycheck[/B] too. He could live for six months on that alone, and he's got a wife to take care of as well.
It's really simple to save up a rainy day fund. Just don't buy a big-ass fucking flatscreen the moment you get a job, don't take out four credit cards, d[B]on't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well[/B], and generally don't be a moron with your money. Before you know it you'll have a rainy day fund that will keep the lights on for a couple of months. Fucking hell, this isn't rocket science.
But I'm not gonna argue it any further. If you lot want to keep living under the assumption that you'll have work the next day feel free. Me? Personally? I'll bank up every spare cent I have.[/QUOTE]
No, 15k in the bank is not living paycheck to paycheck, and no, a $3500 car will not "do the job just as well" as a $35000 one. Also you're not taking into account the costs kids will incur, as well as prior debt, maybe a home lone, bills, etc. In other words, pretty much everything you said is wrong.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37451556]While thats true in the short term a cheaper car is easier and more accessible then having to spend money on lease/loan every month. Most people think in the short term when their money is at stake and the economy is shit.[/QUOTE]
sure, but when we're talking about the smart way to save money buying a cheap car is a bad idea.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;37451556]While thats true in the short term a cheaper car is easier and more accessible then having to spend money on lease/loan every month. Most people think in the short term when their money is at stake and the economy is shit.[/QUOTE]
A $3500 car is a junker. The maintenance cost and insurance will skyrocket to well above how much the car is worth.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37451567]sure, but when we're talking about the smart way to save money buying a cheap car is a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
What about when buying a cheap car is the only option?
[QUOTE=venn178;37451579]What about when buying a cheap car is the only option?[/QUOTE]
hey i'm not trying to tell people what they should do or not do. i know a lot of people don't have a choice, i was just trying to tell TestECull that his advice sucks.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37451567]sure, but when we're talking about the smart way to save money buying a cheap car is a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
Depends on the model and it's condition.
[B]BUT[/B] generally it's a bad idea.
[QUOTE=Van-man;37451585]Depends on the model and it's condition.
[B]BUT[/B] generally it's a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. There may be a few gems out there for $3500, but the average car at the price point is a piece of shit.
[QUOTE=Apache249;37451595]Pretty much. There may be a few gems out there for $3500, but the average car at the price point is a piece of shit.[/QUOTE]
I got my Bronco II for $1900. It's only broken down once with a $50 repair. I've had it for a year and a few months now. I think I made a good deal on it.
[QUOTE=thisispain;37451584]hey i'm not trying to tell people what they should do or not do. i know a lot of people don't have a choice, i was just trying to tell TestECull that his advice sucks.[/QUOTE]
This I do agree with. I live on about $15000 a year, and have never had more than a couple hundred saved up.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]
It isn't that difficult. One of my friends has 15K sitting idle for a rainy day, and he's living paycheck to paycheck too. He could live for six months on that alone, and he's got a wife to take care of as well.
It's really simple to save up a rainy day fund. Just don't buy a big-ass fucking flatscreen the moment you get a job, don't take out four credit cards, don't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well, and generally don't be a moron with your money. Before you know it you'll have a rainy day fund that will keep the lights on for a couple of months. Fucking hell, this isn't rocket science.
But I'm not gonna argue it any further. If you lot want to keep living under the assumption that you'll have work the next day feel free. Me? Personally? I'll bank up every spare cent I have.[/QUOTE]
I know what he's trying to say but it isn't plausible these days unless you were born into wealth.
So many things can go wrong that can shrink your precious savings quite rapidly. Accidents, car maintenance, unplanned school spendings, food, bills and the like.
Goodness forbid we also spend a bit for our own humanity. Reality isn't like a spread sheet
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37451604]I got my Bronco II for $1900. It's only broken down once with a $50 repair. I've had it for a year and a few months now. I think I made a good deal on it.[/QUOTE]
my friend bought an 80's Cadillac because he thought it looked cool. worst mistake of his life lol.
this is got to be the worst thing he have's done
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37451604]I got my Bronco II for $1900. It's only broken down once with a $50 repair. I've had it for a year and a few months now. I think I made a good deal on it.[/QUOTE]
How's the fuel economy though?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37451363]It's not necessarily the GOP that did this.
The villain in this story is the bosses who run the mine, not Romney.[/QUOTE]
well it was also Rommey idea to do this so he is not much better either
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;37451604]I got my Bronco II for $1900. It's only broken down once with a $50 repair. I've had it for a year and a few months now. I think I made a good deal on it.[/QUOTE]
I've had a banged-up & cheap Toyota Corolla for little bit over 2 years.
Only thing I've spend on it except for gasoline and insurance were engine oil and a new set of front brakepads.
Though I'm gonna junk it tomorrow, since it won't be able to pass the next inspection.
Bought a Turbodiesel VW Passat Stationwagon from 1990 that were used as a long distance commuters car pretty much all the time it was on the road.
Minor things need to be fixed on it, and I can handle most of it myself.
Also considering spending a bit of Spring to convert it to a 2-tank vegetable oil fuel system.
This sounds illegal as all hell.
[QUOTE=ac/14;37451514]What the fuck.[/QUOTE]
I was very interested in that part too and googled it real quick.
The only result turned up another story from the examiner, and to be honest the quote isn't as bad as they'd have you believe.
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"I hope you make it very clear to your employees what you believe is in the best interest of your enterprise and therefore their job and their future in the upcoming elections," Romney said. "And whether you agree with me or you agree with President Obama, or whatever your political view, I hope you pass those along to your employees."
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i.e., "here's what I think is best for the company, factor that into your decision making process", not "vote romney or you're fired"
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Although to be fair I'd say that this particular incident is more than just a case of "letting them know what you believe".
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]Fantasy? Really?
I'm not gonna argue with you any further. You just keep on living life bending over for your employers like a little robot.
It isn't that difficult. One of my friends has 15K sitting idle for a rainy day, and he's living paycheck to paycheck too. He could live for six months on that alone, and he's got a wife to take care of as well.
It's really simple to save up a rainy day fund. Just don't buy a big-ass fucking flatscreen the moment you get a job, don't take out four credit cards, don't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well, and generally don't be a moron with your money. Before you know it you'll have a rainy day fund that will keep the lights on for a couple of months. Fucking hell, this isn't rocket science.
But I'm not gonna argue it any further. If you lot want to keep living under the assumption that you'll have work the next day feel free. Me? Personally? I'll bank up every spare cent I have.[/QUOTE]
I work 40 hours a week (or more) for minimum wage. I make just over 1k/mo. That means I make, give or take, 12k/year.
All of my money goes towards bills and rent. All of it. I eat leftover food at work because I don't have enough money to buy food for myself. The only reason I have gas in my car right now is because my girlfriend's mom pays me to drive her back and forth to college.
$375/mo for my share of the rent
$300/mo car payment
$40/mo electricity
$20/mo water
$40/mo internet
$20/mo phone bill
$80/mo car insurance
$40+/mo gas (until recently, and even then I still sometimes need a quick boost)
That leaves me with, if I'm lucky, $85/mo in funds. Or, roughly, $21/week.
Even though I hate my job and the people I work for, I can't afford to quit my job and look for something else, because even missing ONE DAY of work (which I had to do last month due to sickness), throws off my entire budget and I'm forced to work overtime to make up for the loss. God forbid I get REALLY sick, or my car breaks down, because then I'd be completely fucked. I have no insurance (not provided by employer, and no money to buy it), and no money to even get a new tire if mine blows.
I've never even had a comma in my bank account, much less $15,000 sitting around. I have no idea how you consider that "living paycheck to paycheck", but you obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. If I wanted to save up that amount of money, it would take me (give or take) [i]15 GODDAMN YEARS[/i], and that's assuming nothing bad happens in those 15 years.
So yeah. Quit acting like you know what it's like to live at/below the poverty line.
I can relate to the miners being forced to do shit like that.
Earlier this year, I kept getting these huge letters from the repubeican national convention (by huge, I mean 4 pages front and back in fine print on A4. These letters were fucking LONG.) Basically they stated I was chosen to be some sort of local representative, along with some bullshit about why democrats and liberals are idiots, and other idiotic rants.
If that wasn't enough, it had a pointless survey on a 5th piece of cardstock paper that was basically rigged so it would only have one outcome. It also demanded that it be sent in by some predetermined date and demanded that you sent $250 along with it for "tabulation costs."
I ignored the first one and tossed it, but they kept coming and the letters became even longer (the last one was like 8 pages front and back on A4 in fine print.) The longer letters tried to make the crap they tried to force down my throat more urgent and time sensitive, etc.
I'm pretty conservative, but everyone in Washington running the country right now are idiots so I'm not sure who to vote for that isn't a child.
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451504]Fantasy? Really?
I'm not gonna argue with you any further. You just keep on living life bending over for your employers like a little robot.
It isn't that difficult. One of my friends has 15K sitting idle for a rainy day, and he's living paycheck to paycheck too. He could live for six months on that alone, and he's got a wife to take care of as well.
It's really simple to save up a rainy day fund. Just don't buy a big-ass fucking flatscreen the moment you get a job, don't take out four credit cards, don't buy a $35,000 sedan when a $3500 one will do the job just as well, and generally don't be a moron with your money. Before you know it you'll have a rainy day fund that will keep the lights on for a couple of months. Fucking hell, this isn't rocket science.
But I'm not gonna argue it any further. If you lot want to keep living under the assumption that you'll have work the next day feel free. Me? Personally? I'll bank up every spare cent I have.[/QUOTE]
Weren't you in an argument with someone saying the same sort of stuff you are now in that scholarship thread?
[QUOTE=bohb;37451959]I can relate to the miners being forced to do shit like that.
Earlier this year, I kept getting these huge letters from the repubeican national convention (by huge, I mean 4 pages front and back in fine print on A4. These letters were fucking LONG.) Basically they stated I was chosen to be some sort of local representative, along with some bullshit about why democrats and liberals are idiots, and other idiotic rants.
If that wasn't enough, it had a pointless survey on a 5th piece of cardstock paper that was basically rigged so it would only have one outcome. It also demanded that it be sent in by some predetermined date and demanded that you sent $250 along with it for "tabulation costs."
I ignored the first one and tossed it, but they kept coming and the letters became even longer (the last one was like 8 pages front and back on A4 in fine print.) The longer letters tried to make the crap they tried to force down my throat more urgent and time sensitive, etc.
I'm pretty conservative, but everyone in Washington running the country right now are idiots so I'm not sure who to vote for that isn't a child.[/QUOTE]
sounds like they where sending them to everone
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;37451705]This sounds illegal as all hell.[/QUOTE]
When was that ever relevant to anyone in American politics or business?
[QUOTE=TestECull;37451406]I love how both of you are assuming that I wouldn't have some savings waiting for just such a thing. I'm not daft, I'd have three or four months worth banked up to cover things while I found new work...[i]especially if I was a miner[/i]. Anyone who doesn't bank up a few months to live on if they lose their job is daft as fuck, even if you're in a stable job. Miners don't have stable jobs, that mine could easily be shut down without any notice for any myriad of reasons.[/QUOTE]
I somehow doubt you ever had to support an entire family while working minimum wage
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