New British airship set to revolutionise the skies - Polidicks

[QUOTE=tehperzon;27194186]awesome, with this we could develop shit like this [img_thumb]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tCQH9GegMWA/S2CtJMzZisI/AAAAAAAABzE/5tFELHCT0xg/s320/sfgdsfhghg.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Holy shit i've never seen an airship like that before that's made me think it's actually going to happen God bless you sir, god bless science, and god bless nick fury [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [img]http://bazookasamurai.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/42109-nick_fury.jpg[/img] bitches don't know

[QUOTE=tehperzon;27194186]awesome, with this we could develop shit like this [img_thumb]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tCQH9GegMWA/S2CtJMzZisI/AAAAAAAABzE/5tFELHCT0xg/s320/sfgdsfhghg.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I'm trying to figure out how this was built. Obviously the top deck is off an aircraft carrier model. The hull is confusing though. There are no in-production airship models by any large modeling company at the moment, they've all been discontinued. The only thing I can see is if he got hold of three older revell Hindenburg models, cut the pieces so that he had two ends and one mid section, and glued those together.

[QUOTE=Nonikai;27194404]Technology is moving fast. I wonder when they will invent the TARDIS.[/QUOTE] The Tethered Aerial Release Developed In Style [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] Because hydrogen is lighter (and cheaper, and more abundant) you can afford to put more protection and armouring on the ship and the hydrogen stores. Hydrogen is the future, we just need to work around it.

Sky Captain of Tomorrow.

reading about this makes me a little nostalgic really, Britain used to be at the forefront of aircraft technology from the end of the second world war up till the 1970's. I mean, look at the vulcan bomber, the Hawker hunter and the English electric lightning, (both some of the the stylish planes that existed). I mean, the vulcan took part in test's against the US to see wether (if the russians where using vulcans) they would penetrate its radar defenses. 7 out of 8 vulcans successfully "bombed" their targets and returned back to base unscathed, The hunter would out perform the sabers at higher speeds and altitudes and the lightning can still outturn and out pace many modern fighters today. Then politics got in the way and we sort of lost our way. [img]http://home.clara.net/heureka/lincolnshire/avro-vulcan00.jpg[/img] [img]http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/284/saf20hawker20hunter20fg.jpg[/img] [img]http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss263/pauljsned/english-electric-lightning-p1b.jpg[/img]

Heh, those Vulcan bombers were damn sexy: [media]http://www.thedambusters.org.uk/images/vulcan1.jpg[/media] [media]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Avro_Vulcan_XH558.jpg[/media] Tip of the hat to the brits.

so, is there a reason why they need to use helium. i understand its lighter than air, but why cant they make a rigid structure with some carbon nano tubes and then create a vacuum in it. super lighter than air ahoy. i am talking out of my ass a bit, i dont know what advances would be required for this.

I doubt any structure able to hold a vacuum would be light enough to do that To make it fly it has to be lighter than air and able to offset the weight of the body

[QUOTE=kaze4159;27214038]I doubt any structure able to hold a vacuum would be light enough to do that To make it fly it has to be lighter than air and able to offset the weight of the body[/QUOTE] well a carbonfiber/nanotube sphere with thin spindly crossbars might work. like a bicycle wheel. there would need to be a pump allowing you to control the purity of the vaccum to rise or fall. that might also be heavy. its an intresting concept

[QUOTE=Im Crimson;27213831]Heh, those Vulcan bombers were damn sexy: Tip of the hat to the brits.[/QUOTE] I'm lucky enough to have hears the "vulcan howl" This was the air vibrating in the air intakes to create a "howl". [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLNyQSg5NAc[/media] Go to 16 seconds

[QUOTE=cherry gmod;27214713]I'm lucky enough to have hears the "vulcan howl" This was the air vibrating in the air intakes to create a "howl". [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLNyQSg5NAc[/media] Go to 16 seconds[/QUOTE] I live next to RAF Pembrey so I've probably heard it.

this looks really cool and future-y and all but it doesn't look like it can go very fast or handle bad weather that well.

I want that

[QUOTE=Mattk50;27214283]well a carbonfiber/nanotube sphere with thin spindly crossbars might work. like a bicycle wheel. there would need to be a pump allowing you to control the purity of the vaccum to rise or fall. that might also be heavy. its an intresting concept[/QUOTE] Gonna be expensive as hell to construct a hull that way, and I figure you need quite a massive piece of compressor to keep, let alone regulate, the low pressure inside such a massive structure. And you'll still end up with a machine with all the drawbacks of the old bulky airships.

[QUOTE=Im Crimson;27216364]Gonna be expensive as hell to construct a hull that way, and I figure you need quite a massive piece of compressor to keep, let alone regulate, the low pressure inside such a massive structure. And you'll still end up with a machine with all the drawbacks of the old bulky airships.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the obvious draw back of fragility. with a vacuum, even a small dent would compromise the whole structure as it relies on compressive strength, Filling it with a gas would be a lot safer. think about it, how much easier is it to blow air into a straw with a closed end than to suck the air out of it without it collapsing (terrible analogy, I'm sorry) It would require us to build a Perfect shape, one that let the forces be distributed completely symmetrically, because if there was any one point that was weaker, then bye bye container. Also, its a lot easier to quickly patch up a hole in a pressure filled container (have a gel layer inside that solidifies on contact with oxygen, get a rip gel gets forced out due to pressure seals itself, similar to compressed fuel tanks on jet aircraft), sorry if none of that made much sense, i'm not very good at explaining thing.

[QUOTE=Cheshire_cat;27201076]turboprops are so 1930s, let's mount some jet engines instead. :dance:[/QUOTE] um, turboprops are gas turbines, same as jet engines plus they are more efficient to use at lower velocities

[QUOTE=MIPS;27194123]"This better not be a blimp" *click* *page loads* "Fuck, it IS a blimp!" Boxes ahoy![/QUOTE] Does it really matter what it looks like? Seriously, this is like a fucking sky hotel, only better because, you know, it flies and shit.

[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;27216598]um, turboprops are gas turbines, same as jet engines plus they are more efficient to use at lower velocities[/QUOTE] They are jet engines with a propellor attached to the turbines of the jet engine through a series of gears. And yes, they are more efficient al lower velocities. However, they are limited in certain aspects due to the problems of the propellors exceeding the speed of sound and completely changing the dynamics of the air flowing over the blade, thereby limiting their performance at higher speed.

Oooh, a shield helicarrier wouldn't be so bad.

[QUOTE=cherry gmod;27217078]They are jet engines with a propellor attached to the turbines of the jet engine through a series of gears. And yes, they are more efficient al lower velocities. However, they are limited in certain aspects due to the problems of the propellors exceeding the speed of sound and completely changing the dynamics of the air flowing over the blade, thereby limiting their performance at higher speed.[/QUOTE] yes, exactly, which is why on a blimp they would make more sense than a turbojet

[QUOTE=tehperzon;27194186]awesome, with this we could develop shit like this [img_thumb]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tCQH9GegMWA/S2CtJMzZisI/AAAAAAAABzE/5tFELHCT0xg/s320/sfgdsfhghg.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Yo dawg I heard you like planes... [IMG]http://assets.yodawgpics.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/5935/resized/plane.jpg?1267006348[/IMG] [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=cherry gmod;27212918]reading about this makes me a little nostalgic really, Britain used to be at the forefront of aircraft technology from the end of the second world war up till the 1970's. I mean, look at the vulcan bomber, the Hawker hunter and the English electric lightning, (both some of the the stylish planes that existed). I mean, the vulcan took part in test's against the US to see wether (if the russians where using vulcans) they would penetrate its radar defenses. 7 out of 8 vulcans successfully "bombed" their targets and returned back to base unscathed, The hunter would out perform the sabers at higher speeds and altitudes and the lightning can still outturn and out pace many modern fighters today. Then politics got in the way and we sort of lost our way. [img_thumb]http://home.clara.net/heureka/lincolnshire/avro-vulcan00.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://www.aviatormodteam.xtreemhost.com/main/images/hunter/hunter_real.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss263/pauljsned/english-electric-lightning-p1b.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Oh say can you seeeeeeeeee... [img]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/Caonabismo/01_06_jsf.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Jewsus;27217671]Yo dawg I heard you like planes... [img_thumb]http://assets.yodawgpics.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/5935/resized/plane.jpg?1267006348[/img_thumb] [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] Oh say can you seeeeeeeeee... [img_thumb]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/Caonabismo/01_06_jsf.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Oh hey, techonology that came from the Harrier jump jet, which was a British plane.

[QUOTE=Jewsus;27217671] Oh say can you seeeeeeeeee... [img_thumb]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/Caonabismo/01_06_jsf.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Yeah let's compare one of the most recent multirole fighter designs to a jet commissioned in the early 50's, now primarily found in museums.

[QUOTE=Jewsus;27217671] Oh say can you seeeeeeeeee... [img_thumb]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/Caonabismo/01_06_jsf.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Ha, we did that back in the 60's. Without fancy computer controls might i a

[QUOTE=Jewsus;27217671]Yo dawg I heard you like planes... [img_thumb]http://assets.yodawgpics.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/5935/resized/plane.jpg?1267006348[/img_thumb] [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] Oh say can you seeeeeeeeee... [img_thumb]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/Caonabismo/01_06_jsf.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Ah yes the F35B, with its Rolls Royce VTOL engine (Britain), its Alenia composites (Italy), oh and lets not forget what BAE systems (British) have contributed, [QUOTE]BAE Systems provides aft fuselage and empennages, horizontal and vertical tails, crew life support and escape systems, Electronic warfare systems, fuel system, and Flight Control Software (FCS1)[/QUOTE] Yep, pinnacle of American design and engineering.

[QUOTE=tehperzon;27194186]awesome, with this we could develop shit like this [img_thumb]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tCQH9GegMWA/S2CtJMzZisI/AAAAAAAABzE/5tFELHCT0xg/s320/sfgdsfhghg.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] With a nuclear reactor. Staying up there forever. Last exile all over.

[QUOTE=Jewsus;27217671]Yo dawg I heard you like planes... [img_thumb]http://assets.yodawgpics.com/hashed_silo_content/silo_content/5935/resized/plane.jpg?1267006348[/img_thumb] [editline]6th January 2011[/editline] Oh say can you seeeeeeeeee... [img_thumb]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/Caonabismo/01_06_jsf.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I'm sorry but the last 4 posts shot you down so fucking hard, you're done. Also fuck yes airships, either heralding the future or dystopian society.

[img]http://www.gamingbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bioshock_infinite_logo.jpg[/img] One step closer to Irrational Games' glorious prediction.

[B]HOLY FUCK[/B] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi9ylUbIlWQ[/media] 4:30!!

[QUOTE=zpiscool;27216754]Does it really matter what it looks like? Seriously, this is like a fucking sky hotel, only better because, you know, it flies and shit.[/QUOTE] He's mad because it's a nonrigid, and every airship enthusiast has no greater dream than to see rigid ships return.