[QUOTE=Goldb207;32460062]It's also considered a delicacy[/QUOTE]
But is it worth it? Any delicacy at the expense of threatening an entire [i]Genus[/i] of animals with extinction is not worth it. Hell I don't even eat salmon, and caviar is just as stupid as fins.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
I mean do disrespect to anyone's culture, but culture really isn't an excuse.
[QUOTE=OvB;32460102]But is it worth it? Any delicacy at the expense of threatening an entire [i]Genus[/i] of animals with extinction is not worth it. Hell I don't even eat salmon, and caviar is just as stupid as fins.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
I mean do disrespect to anyone's culture, but culture really isn't an excuse.[/QUOTE]
You don't eat salmon...why? They aren't endangered you know.
And why is caviar stupid? People like it. It also doesn't have to come from sturgeon, there are several different kinds of caviar "imitations" that come from different fish.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32450663]After eating the fin of one of the most bloodthirsty, brutal animals in nature, I would probably feel pretty damn manly(and manliness + females generally leads to sexual arousal tbh).
That is assuming I pulled the shark out of the water and ripped it's fin off with my teeth myself.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
You could have sent the food back and probably gotten another dish without as much salt if you asked bro.[/QUOTE]
It's all good, the fried rice was good so I just got the fish out of the way.
I do love me some fried rice.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32460382]You don't eat salmon...why? They aren't endangered you know.
And why is caviar stupid? People like it. It also doesn't have to come from sturgeon, there are several different kinds of caviar "imitations" that come from different fish.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I don't eat fish at all because I don't really like the taste. I've eaten catfish and I think Mahi Mahi. I've had some caviar from probably salmon but I didn't notice the taste. Sturgeon caviar is destroying their populations pretty badly. And some Salmon populations are declining pretty rapidly. I don't have anything against fishing as long as it's sustainable and fishing is halted if we discover the population is thinning out.
[QUOTE=MightyMax;32451348]that thing is so [I]fucking[/I] disgusting.[/QUOTE]Well it's overpriced as shit and actually kind of small.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Also caviar is delicious
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;32454397]The longer you cook something, the more of the [I]original[/I] taste is lost.[/QUOTE]
That's not necessarily true.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;32454397]The point is what the cook guy says. You could put chicken into it, or anything else, and it would be the same thing.[/QUOTE]
He's not criticizing the cooking process, he's saying the fin intrinsically has no flavor and no influence on the dish.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;32454397]I am saying that any possible (and actually never existant) exclusivity of taste is lost due to the complete breakdown from lengthy cooking, so everything left is just value assigned to the meat due to the status of rarity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;32454397]Denaturated protein has taste of denaturated protein, but when you cook them for long enough, they all break down to the basically same thing. [/QUOTE]
Flavor is more complex than the nature of the protein and even then the denaturing process effects different proteins in different ways.
Certain compounds detected by taste buds and certain notes of scent are not significantly effected by cooking or released by cooking. Other macromolecules i.e. fats and sugars are effected differently by varying lengths of heat too.
Of course if you overcook something you're going to destroy a lot of the flavor, but considering the fact that steaming done before hand is less to affect the proteins and more to soften the fin, it's definitely not overcooked.
Cutting off shark fins is one of the most inhumane things i have ever heard of.
Why the fuck hasn't it been banned in China already?
It's exactly as terrible as extracting bear bile from bears, or even worse.
why the fuck do they leave the shark to die
I was under the impression that shark meat is fucking delicious, that's a waste of a good shark
[QUOTE=shian;32458207][QUOTE=Electrocuter;32454246]Shark fin has no taste and has a nutritional value of zero, it's useless and it's just a way for rich people to gloat about being rich.[/QUOTE]Ancient Chinese Tradition.
Its like bird nest. But I think there's some use.[/QUOTE]
...and bone marrow. Some foods only show up on the tables of the super rich and the super impoverished.
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;32464791]why the fuck do they leave the shark to die
I was under the impression that shark meat is fucking delicious, that's a waste of a good shark[/QUOTE]
Shark meat isn't delicious, that's why they toss the rest of the shark. The meat is so worthless they can't afford to take up hold space with it.
Shark fins are expensive and sought after for no reason whatsoever, except that people have been culturally conditioned to think it's valuable.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;32465396]Shark meat isn't delicious, that's why they toss the rest of the shark. The meat is so worthless they can't afford to take up hold space with it.
Shark fins are expensive and sought after for no reason whatsoever, except that people have been culturally conditioned to think it's valuable.[/QUOTE]
Actually the meat does have value, just not as much as the fin.
Explained a little better by the internet:
"Maybe you have heard of the applaing trade in sharks fins. The fin is much more valuable than the res, becasue people want sharks fin soup. So fishermen catch the shark, cut the fin off it while it is still alive, and throw it back. It is not that the meat is worthless, but that it is worth much less than the fin. If you fill the boat with meat, you waste time going back to port and out to sea gain when you could be getting more fin. So it is relative, rather than absolute, value that is low."
[url]http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/75248[/url]
I've tried shark fin soup before.
[h2]IT TASTED LIKE A WARM, DANK ASSHOLE SERVED WITH RAW HALIBUT[/h2]
It was literally one of THE worst things I've ever tasted, and I've tasted a lot of food.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;32461078]Well it's overpriced as shit and actually kind of small.
[editline]24th September 2011[/editline]
Also caviar is delicious[/QUOTE]
It's an acquired taste.
Which means you eat it until you like it.
Which is inherently foolish.
I thought it was great the first time I tried it, buttery smooth with only a light fish taste.
I love some nice shark fin soup but only for the taste, which the fin contributes nothing to. It actually becomes worse if there is too much fin.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;32465514]Actually the meat does have value, just not as much as the fin.
Explained a little better by the internet:
"Maybe you have heard of the applaing trade in sharks fins. The fin is much more valuable than the res, becasue people want sharks fin soup. So fishermen catch the shark, cut the fin off it while it is still alive, and throw it back. It is not that the meat is worthless, but that it is worth much less than the fin. If you fill the boat with meat, you waste time going back to port and out to sea gain when you could be getting more fin. So it is relative, rather than absolute, value that is low."
[url]http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/75248[/url][/QUOTE]
The meat might as well be worthless, though I do recall stories of fish tacos in Mexico being made with whatever they can catch. Including great whites.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;32465568]I thought it was great the first time I tried it, buttery smooth with only a light fish taste.[/QUOTE]
So butter and fishpaste.
[QUOTE=OvB;32465733]The meat might as well be worthless, though I do recall stories of fish tacos in Mexico being made with whatever they can catch. Including great whites.[/QUOTE]
From all sources I've read shark meat is absolutely delicious, depending on the species. It's just not that big of a cultural icon like the fin. But ya it is sold and eaten rarely.
Seems like every shark fin story has a different number of sharks killed each year, ranging from 10 million up to 100 million.
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;32466017]Seems like every shark fin story has a different number of sharks killed each year, ranging from 10 million up to 100 million.[/QUOTE]
True numbers are not known. Usual estimates are around 60-90 million.
Depending on the size of the shark, you can cut off about this much:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/UpU0c.gif[/img]
And with drying areas looking like this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/AIek8.jpg[/img]
and this:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/R2qF3.jpg[/img]
It's just impossible to come up with any real numbers.
As much as I like shark fin soup I have to agree. It doesn't really taste like anything, it's the soup that has the flavor and the fin provides the texture. Besides, the artificial stuff is just as good.
[QUOTE=ken188;32450229]Shark fin soup is tasty, you white people don't know what you're missing.
That's like saying "bread adds no flavor, just eat the sandwich without the bread".[/QUOTE]
Um, Yao Ming brought this up. He's not a white guy.
I'd eat sharks.They eat humans, We should eat them.
Eye for an eye bitch.
[QUOTE=DarkCisco;32471813]I'd eat sharks.They eat humans, We should eat them.
Eye for an eye bitch.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but humans aren't endangered are they.
[QUOTE=DarkCisco;32471813]I'd eat sharks.They eat humans, We should eat them.
Eye for an eye bitch.[/QUOTE]
So lets look at some statistics:
The International Shark Attack File says there have been 2,251 attacks worldwide [i]since 1580[/i], with [b]464[/b] attacks being fatal.
Expert estimates for annual sharks killed by humans go up from 10 million to over 100 million.
[b]464 v 100,000,000[/b]
So let me get this right. You want to go "Eye for an eye" with the oceans deadliest apex predator? A fish which is statistically harmless to humans? Let's look at this. Millions of people visit beaches every year. If you look at the global ranges of Great Whites, Tiger sharks, and Bull sharks -three of statistically more deadly sharks- you will notice they encompass pretty much every popular beach on the planet.
So just how close do sharks get to said popular beach with millions of potential food items on it?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/YU0EY.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/YDitz.jpg[/img]
Chances are, if you've been on a beach, you've been within range of a sharks electromagnetic sensory systems. [i]They knew where you were.[/i]
However, if you've been on a beach, you've also been subject to jellyfish, infectious diseases, rip currents, broken glass and other garbage, and many other things that claim more lives annually than sharks.
[img]http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/meh.ro8054.jpg[/img]
So, do you [i]really[/i] want to go eye for an eye with sharks? I'm thankful they have mercy on us.
200,000+ sharks have been killed since I made this thread. 0 people have been bitten or killed since I made this thread. (that news stories are reporting).
[QUOTE=DarkCisco;32471813]I'd eat sharks.They eat humans, We should eat them.
Eye for an eye bitch.[/QUOTE]
^Product of the media bias, right here.
[QUOTE=OvB;32473475]So lets look at some statistics:
The International Shark Attack File says there have been 2,251 attacks worldwide [i]since 1580[/i], with [b]464[/b] attacks being fatal.
Expert estimates for annual sharks killed by humans go up from 10 million to over 100 million.
[b]464 v 100,000,000[/b]
So let me get this right. You want to go "Eye for an eye" with the oceans deadliest apex predator? A fish which is statistically harmless to humans? Let's look at this. Millions of people visit beaches every year. If you look at the global ranges of Great Whites, Tiger sharks, and Bull sharks -three of statistically more deadly sharks- you will notice they encompass pretty much every popular beach on the planet.
So just how close do sharks get to said popular beach with millions of potential food items on it?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/YU0EY.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/YDitz.jpg[/img]
Chances are, if you've been on a beach, you've been within range of a sharks electromagnetic sensory systems. [i]They knew where you were.[/i]
However, if you've been on a beach, you've also been subject to jellyfish, infectious diseases, rip currents, broken glass and other garbage, and many other things that claim more lives annually than sharks.
[img]http://www.meh.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/meh.ro8054.jpg[/img]
So, do you [i]really[/i] want to go eye for an eye with sharks? I'm thankful they have mercy on us.
200,000+ sharks have been killed since I made this thread. 0 people have been bitten or killed since I made this thread. (that news stories are reporting).[/QUOTE]
What else do sharks do? (Besides being tasty)
[QUOTE=DarkCisco;32471813]I'd eat sharks.They eat humans, We should eat them.
Eye for an eye bitch.[/QUOTE]
Dumbest thing I've read this year.
[editline]25th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=DarkCisco;32475961]What else do sharks do? (Besides being tasty)[/QUOTE]
I hope you're trolling and not seriously this retarded.
I wish I could stab people through the internet.
[QUOTE=OvB;32466264]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/UpU0c.gif[/img]
[/QUOTE]mmm anal fin soup
Fucking hippos, we should be eating them instead.
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