I just found out about this. Is there anywhere I can watch it online?
[QUOTE=Shugo;46366624]I just found out about this. Is there anywhere I can watch it online?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.themarysue.com/watch-anit...lbert-segment/[/url]
this should probably be in the OP
[QUOTE=Shugo;46366624]I just found out about this. Is there anywhere I can watch it online?[/QUOTE]
over here
[video=youtube;IosGtGjUxvQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IosGtGjUxvQ[/video]
Jesus fuck, that was infuriating. I'm just gonna go to bed and try to forget about this.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;46366627][url]http://www.themarysue.com/watch-anit...lbert-segment/[/url]
this should probably be in the OP[/QUOTE]
That website has an article criticizing twitch for repressing woman because the new TOS won't let them show their tits on webcame for money :v:
Apparently the image of the guy with the joystick was photoshopped to have a white guys head when he was originally black.
I fucking hate how godlike Anita has become because of all the bloody morons who harassed her, making her into this untouchable deity.
It's to the point that you can't comment on ANYTHING Anita says, because if you disagree with her, it's because you're an evil cishet white man.
Like, maybe I just disagree? Her video where she goes on about how the female splicers in Bioshock are all sexualized for set dressin' or what have you makes no sense. They're dressed in Evening wear cause it was the fiddies.
I'd love having a discussion about women in gaming and how games treat women but you can't actually have a dicussion. You blindly agree and join the ranks of the devout Anita fans who would take a bullet for her in hopes of a retweet or you disagree and get lumped as a hateful misognist who can't accept women in muh secret club!!!
At the end of the day though it's not like she has any sway. Japanese devs are never going to change for Sarkeesian and I can take solace in that.
Man, between her, Phil Fish, and Geoff Keighley, my country is doing all it can to produce cringe worthy gaming personalities.
[editline]30th October 2014[/editline]
Also, serious question.
I love Bayonetta, my girlfriend loves bayonetta, fuck even my mother thinks Bayonetta is cool.
Why is Bayonetta so upsetting to people?
Cause she has breasts and is kind of sexual?
Isn't the whole feminist shpeel that it's fine to embrace sexuality?
[QUOTE=HWECQI;46366512]Hearing how the interview turned out really crushes my spirits.
Ruined my day.[/QUOTE]
can i get a synopsis
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;46366701]I fucking hate how godlike Anita has become because of all the bloody morons who harassed her, making her into this untouchable deity.
It's to the point that you can't comment on ANYTHING Anita says, because if you disagree with her, it's because you're an evil cishet white man.
[/QUOTE]
Good thing you're on a public forum where a ton of people seem to hate her.
[editline]30th October 2014[/editline]
Run free and express your opinion, my little strawberry
With her lousy research I am surprised she actually managed to finish a degree
[QUOTE=Lambeth;46366718]Good thing you're on a public forum where a ton of people seem to hate her.
[editline]30th October 2014[/editline]
Run free and express your opinion, my little strawberry[/QUOTE]
I don't think that's what he means
Anyone can say anything on message boards, but that's where it stays. As far as the world of journalism and media is concerned, Anita is a shining God who knows no wrong. And they're the ones who control the narrative that gets fed to everyone outside of the community.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;46366736]I don't think that's what he means
Anyone can say anything on message boards, but that's where it stays. As far as the world of journalism and media is concerned, Anita is a shining God who knows no wrong. And they're the ones who control the narrative that gets fed to everyone outside of the community.[/QUOTE]
But she's only barely sneaked into mainstream media at this point. Most of her audience will be on the web, whether they support her or not.
[editline]30th October 2014[/editline]
Video game media is not mainstream media, let me be clear
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;46366736]I don't think that's what he means
Anyone can say anything on message boards, but that's where it stays. As far as the world of journalism and media is concerned, Anita is a shining God who knows no wrong. And they're the ones who control the narrative that gets fed to everyone outside of the community.[/QUOTE]
The average adult over the age of 40 has literally no idea about games, let along game "culture" and game journalism. Anything they do know comes from the main-stream news and shows like Colbert. These are also the same people who overwhelmingly vote.
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;46366701]
[editline]30th October 2014[/editline]
Also, serious question.
I love Bayonetta, my girlfriend loves bayonetta, fuck even my mother thinks Bayonetta is cool.
Why is Bayonetta so upsetting to people?
Cause she has breasts and is kind of sexual?
Isn't the whole feminist shpeel that it's fine to embrace sexuality?[/QUOTE]
I think what feminists want is that the character itself decides if she wants to be sexual. If a man created the character it is automaticly misoginy if the character is portrayed as sexy. It would be considered objectification, like drawing spiderwoman in the exact same pose as spiderman (which strangely is not considered objectification)
If a woman creates a female character, it is okay because it is to empower womankind as a whole.
It is a big double standard, which is a hypocrisy because if men and women are supposed to be equal, why aren't both allowed to create the same characters? And this goes against feminist believes.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;46366736]I don't think that's what he means
Anyone can say anything on message boards, but that's where it stays. As far as the world of journalism and media is concerned, Anita is a shining God who knows no wrong. And they're the ones who control the narrative that gets fed to everyone outside of the community.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. That's what I meant although you made it sound a bit like dialogue from Metal Gear Solid 2.
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;46366701]I fucking hate how godlike Anita has become because of all the bloody morons who harassed her, making her into this untouchable deity.
It's to the point that you can't comment on ANYTHING Anita says, because if you disagree with her, it's because you're an evil cishet white man.
Like, maybe I just disagree? Her video where she goes on about how the female splicers in Bioshock are all sexualized for set dressin' or what have you makes no sense. They're dressed in Evening wear cause it was the fiddies.
I'd love having a discussion about women in gaming and how games treat women but you can't actually have a dicussion. You blindly agree and join the ranks of the devout Anita fans who would take a bullet for her in hopes of a retweet or you disagree and get lumped as a hateful misognist who can't accept women in muh secret club!!!
At the end of the day though it's not like she has any sway. Japanese devs are never going to change for Sarkeesian and I can take solace in that.
Man, between her, Phil Fish, and Geoff Keighley, my country is doing all it can to produce cringe worthy gaming personalities.
[editline]30th October 2014[/editline]
Also, serious question.
I love Bayonetta, my girlfriend loves bayonetta, fuck even my mother thinks Bayonetta is cool.
Why is Bayonetta so upsetting to people?
Cause she has breasts and is kind of sexual?
Isn't the whole feminist shpeel that it's fine to embrace sexuality?[/QUOTE]
no one is blaming you for questioning stuff she says, you just need to stop having this weird persecution complex about it
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46366762]no one is blaming you for questioning stuff she says, you just need to stop having this weird persecution complex about it[/QUOTE]
No one here, but go into an average women studies class in an average US university with those same critiques of Anita and you automatically become sexist. I've been there.
[QUOTE=Impact1986;46366755]
If a woman creates a female character, it is okay because it is to empower womankind as a whole.
[/QUOTE]
And even that doesn't work. Bayonetta.
When woman does something that doesn't fit the narrative, she's just a pawn in evil males' hands and her accomplishments are taken away. So much for empowerment.
No one denies women agency more than this brand of I don't even know what. Sarkeesian-Park brand of "feminism". Woman MUST be a victim no matter what. If she doesn't support what they say? She was brainwashed etc. Which is rich, coming from a Jonathan McIntosh's mouthpiece with little to no agency of her own.
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;46366758]Yeah. That's what I meant although you made it sound a bit like dialogue from Metal Gear Solid 2.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to be conspiratorial here. Colbert has an audience outside of video games, so when he says shit about the video game community people not commonly associated with gaming will probably listen.
It's not an evil plot, that's just how information spreads.
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;46366710]can i get a synopsis[/QUOTE]
it's been summarized already but besides a hiccup in her script when she was asked to list several misogynistic games, it went fine for her and Colbert took the route of "gamers are gross dickhead nerds"
I honestly don't really care about Anita but it's a mainstream show now propagating this message to people who aren't informed and that's pretty bad. A lot of innocent people are potentially gonna get branded with this now.
Plus, the fact Anita got on there bothers me a lot. While I'm happy in some ways she lead to a discussion about women in games, her role has basically been done and her actions have really made her an online personality that I don't think deserves anymore attention.
But, whatever. I want it to stop more than anything
ya know the anti gamergaters really don't have to do much
my entire facebook feed is all anti gamergaters, primarily from people who barely play video games
I feel like I have to send someone an apology for being a straight white man who looks video games
I'm sorry
and here's an I'm sorry cause I'm canadian
[QUOTE=Thlis;46366274]Subverting it's own goal by donating 70k to a group helping women get into game development and 10k to anti bullying. Can you explain the acting unethically portion of your post?
[B]Are you going to disappear from the discussion again now?[/QUOTE][/B]
Of course he is, have we come to expect anything else from the master of drive-by zingers
I think what disappoints me about this video isn't the bias, that's to be expected and I don't really care.
It's Stephen dropping character more than he used to. When Anita asked him if he believed in equal rights for women, I expected him to say pretty much anything other than say yes.
I'm actually not surprised by this, if it hadn't been Colbert it probably would have been The Daily Show.
It's like when everyone was complaining about a series of EA titles like Spore, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, and TOR for being low quality and having paid off reviews. We were all called Anti-LGBT homophobes because we didn't get in line and enjoy the shit games. Everyone that was here on Facepunch during those years should remember the shitstorm.
We're now just anti-feminist instead of anti-lgbt, but the end goal is still the same.
[QUOTE=Charades;46367474]I'm actually not surprised by this, if it hadn't been Colbert it probably would have been The Daily Show.
It's like when everyone was complaining about a series of EA titles like Spore, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, and TOR for being low quality and having paid off reviews. We were all called Anti-LGBT homophobes because we didn't get in line and enjoy the shit games. Everyone that was here on Facepunch during those years should remember the shitstorm.
We're now just anti-feminist instead of anti-lgbt, but the end goal is still the same.[/QUOTE]
How was complaining about Spore anti-lgbt? I don't remember the Spore debacle.
[QUOTE=gudman;46367517]How was complaining about Spore anti-lgbt? I don't remember the Spore debacle.[/QUOTE]
Professional reviews were perceived as being paid off after the game was released. Consumers were given a glimpse of the game from prior E3 videos and everyone thought we were going to get a complex game. Then when we learned about it being dumbed down because of some Fun team vs Cute team fiasco during development it caused a full consumer revolt with people targeting the game's user score across multiple sites (Amazon, Metacritic).
At this point in 2007 no one was really called Anti-LGBT, but the driving idea was that there was something amiss with the reviews. People started to question this with future EA titles (DA2, ME3, TOR) and when that happened you started to hear the Anti-LGBT slant used against these gamers.
The tactic of using the vitriol comments from a small fraction of gamers that align themselves with the consumer revolt as a means to dismiss them is the same tactic used against GamerGate today.
This will get run into the ground until both parties look stupid, when it started as a legitimate concern about the industry. Just you watch
[QUOTE=Glitchman;46367750]This will get run into the ground until both parties look stupid, when it started as a legitimate concern about the industry. Just you watch[/QUOTE]
I'd say it already happened for the most part but a lot of people involved in it have yet to realize it.
Oh god bombthreats, bombthreats everywhere.
This whole Gamergate fiasco has gone on too long. The problem is that this whole thing is trying to make it seem like only one of the two main issues can actually be solved. Sexism in video games is a problem. Ethics in video games journalism is a problem. Just end the term "Gamergate" because the conversation usually goes nowhere
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