[QUOTE=Manibogi;46364257]No she doesn't, you sociopath. She admittedly deserves criticism, but [I]harrasment[/I]? No.[/QUOTE]
what the fuck is it with you two and using sociopath as an insult
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;46364091]Nice anime avatar. Don't even try to break that stereotype of anime fans being sociopaths.[/QUOTE]
Holy fuck how do you even shit post this hard
good job ignoring a totally valid point though
that isn't the end of it though
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;46364212]So progressive. I take back all the stuff about your post being idiotic. You're so versed![/QUOTE]
you then try and act oh so much more smarter by making another really stupid post
I almost took you seriously before, now you're just being immature.
This is why I stay out of gamergate arguments, both sides are ass's and anita's just some attention whore who gets attention by people who hate her
[QUOTE=papaya;46364275]what the fuck is it with you two and using sociopath as an insult[/QUOTE]
Because he's saying she deserves harrasment, also in a way encouraging such things?
If that's not sociopathic then what is?
[QUOTE=papaya;46364275]what the fuck is it with you two and using sociopath as an insult[/QUOTE]
Ad-hominems are easier to come up with than arguments
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46364257]No she doesn't, you sociopath. She admittedly deserves criticism, but [I]harrasment[/I]? No.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys I'm now a sociopath I like/want people to get constantly harassed for no reason hahahha
No fuck off. I'm saying she deserves to be harassed for what I said. There's a legitimate fucking reason to the harassment she has received.
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[QUOTE=Manibogi;46363984]Who cares about her studies and popularity when she's a feminazi social critic SJW anyways am i right[/QUOTE]
Keep on keepin on Mani.
[QUOTE=Take_Opal;46364212]So progressive. I take back all the stuff about your post being idiotic. You're so versed![/QUOTE]
The point is: If you want to see more women in videogames, support female developers. Women will have better representation if women design the videogames. Analogue is explicitly NON-ERO. In fact, the sequel has a song called "It's not ero!"
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGaxuWR4W_Y[/media]
The game is basically as anti-patriarchy and anti-objectification as it can get.
When you dress up the AI, *Hyun-ae [sp]in the Hanbok she was forced to wear when she was alive, she is disappointed that you would see her that way and is obviously uncomfortable[/sp]
I was a feminist. Not the Tumblr kind. I was in highschool debate and we talked a lot of philosophy, which women have made major contributions to.
Mary Wollstonecraft made contributions to philosophy beyond criticizing women's role in society, she also may have been one of the earliest voices for structuralism, saying that women acted dumb in her day because they were uneducated. This suggested that people were products of their environment, not as a product of birth.
This was later referenced in "gender trouble" by another landmark feminist philosopher, Judith Butler. She states:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Ca0dE0c.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/XEpNdGl.png[/img]
Today I consider myself more Zizekian than I am any kind of feminist.
Being anti-anita does not make one anti-feminist. I've read feminist literature. I'm politically a progressive I think that Mary Wollstonecraft is abolutely indispensable to modern political philosophy. Anita Sarkeesian is quite dispensable.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46364327]Also boo hoo I used the word "sociopath" only once in this thread and only to refer to a person with legitimately sociopathic attitudes, call the ad-hominem police.[/QUOTE]
actually you used it twice
[QUOTE=joshuadim;46364320]Hey guys I'm now a sociopath I like/want people to get constantly harassed for no reason hahahha
No fuck off. I'm saying she deserves to be harassed for what I said. There's a legitimate fucking reason to the harassment she has received.[/QUOTE]
Nobody deserves to be harassed. If she's wrong, she's wrong, and you should be able to point that out. I haven't heard of this woman before, but I'd imagine that you could look at the arguments she makes in her videos and point them out if she is, in fact, wrong in what she says. Harassing someone just shows that you're either
1. Too stupid to do this
2. Too lazy to do it
3. Incapable of doing it because she's actually right
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46364327]Who cares about her studies and popularity when she's a feminazi social critic SJW anyways am i right[/QUOTE]
Go read her thesis from her graduation.
Seriously. It's publicly available. And it's terrible.
You know the whole "putting words into other peoples mouth" thing isn't an argument.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46364340]Nobody deserves to be harassed. If she's wrong, she's wrong, and you should be able to point that out. I haven't heard of this woman before, but I'd imagine that you could look at the arguments she makes in her videos and point them out if she is, in fact, wrong in what she says. Harassing someone just shows that you're either
1. Too stupid to do this
2. Too lazy to do it
3. Incapable of doing it because she's actually right[/QUOTE]
Her videos aren't the only reason why she's being harassed.
She's being harassed for her outright disgusting viewpoints on many things
Edit:
She literally slaps "PATRIARCHY" and "SEXISM" on literally everything
[QUOTE=proboardslol;46364072]Colbert would never. He avoids serious discussion for comedy. He's a comedian. He went on the O'Reilly factor, which is the show that his show is making fun of to begin with, and just joked around being sarcastic while O'Reilly tried to attack him.[/QUOTE]
It's funny because he uses that satire as his genuine debating style to show how ridiculous some of these stances are. He takes things to extremes to show what some people are actually saying and how they think, he isn't just arbitrarily making fun of people because lolz comediez. He's an actor who knows how to stick to his character.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;46364249]And you too, you don't have an argument, so you default to "Lol zingers guys, pay attention to me!"[/QUOTE]
The first few were kinda funny, but they've just gotten progressively tiring.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46364340]Nobody deserves to be harassed. If she's wrong, she's wrong, and you should be able to point that out. [B]I haven't heard of this woman before[/B], but I'd imagine that you could look at the arguments she makes in her videos and point them out if she is, in fact, wrong in what she says. Harassing someone just shows that you're either
1. Too stupid to do this
2. Too lazy to do it
3. Incapable of doing it because she's actually right[/QUOTE]
Wow, I thought you were being sarcastic th first time you said it. How did you manage to avoid her for so long?
from the little I know of this the only reason people like Anita exist is because they are hated enough to get tons of attention allowing them to get a bunch of delusional followers
but if you legitimately believe that she deserves death threats then you need your damn head checked or something.
like holy shit, someone of you actually think death threats are totally OK? what is [B]WRONG[/B] with you? (I don't know specifically who is saying that as I haven't read FP posts that heavily but I know they're at least out there. Not directly to anyone, just a general statement)
calling her a cunt is one thing is she's really that bad. But outright harrassment is a bit over the top. But that isn't nearly as bad as death threats.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;46364320]Hey guys I'm now a sociopath I like/want people to get constantly harassed for no reason hahahha
No fuck off. [B]I'm saying she deserves to be harassed for what I said.[/B] There's a legitimate fucking reason to the harassment she has received.[/QUOTE]
fucking what? No. Her ideas are awful and her videos are shit but no one deserves anything when it comes to threatening people.
[QUOTE=Explosions;46364340]Nobody deserves to be harassed. If she's wrong, she's wrong, and you should be able to point that out. I haven't heard of this woman before, but I'd imagine that you could look at the arguments she makes in her videos and point them out if she is, in fact, wrong in what she says. Harassing someone just shows that you're either
1. Too stupid to do this
2. Too lazy to do it
3. Incapable of doing it because she's actually right[/QUOTE]
whilst I whole heartedly agree with you that she doesn't deserve any form of harassment, there is no format available to argue, or even critic Anita Sarkesian that she will view as she has shut off comments, and doesn't reply to emails that are critical of her work. That and her fan base are pretty much happy to turn off criticism and live in an echo chamber.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;46364349]Her videos aren't the only reason why she's being harassed.
She's being harassed for her outright disgusting viewpoints on many things
Edit:
She literally slaps "PATRIARCHY" and "SEXISM" on literally everything[/QUOTE]
"She deserves to be harassed for not sharing my opinion and using two words, among other things"
Jesus, I thought I was mental.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46364360]whilst I whole heartedly agree with you that she doesn't deserve any form of harassment, there is no format available to argue, or even critic Anita Sarkesian that she will view as she has shut off comments, and doesn't reply to emails that are critical of her work. That and her fan base are pretty much happy to turn off criticism and live in an echo chamber.[/QUOTE]
This is true. She doesn't engage in any kind of discourse or counter-arguments or acknowledge there is another side of things, which is why the majority of things she says in her video are wrong.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;46364349]Her videos aren't the only reason why she's being harassed.
She's being harassed for her outright disgusting viewpoints on many things[/QUOTE]
entirely subjective. even if whatever she said was objectively disgusting it still does not make it okay to threaten to fucking kill her, and considering how crazy much of her detractors are (read: utah university guy) i wouldn't doubt the seriousness of the threats.
stop trying to justify vile harassment already.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46364354]Wow, I thought you were being sarcastic th first time you said it. How did you manage to avoid her for so long?[/QUOTE]
The only times I hear of her is when she's either being undeservedly criticized with insults or when she's being harassed.
Maybe she's not as important as you guys make her be??
harassment only really causes people like Anita to play victim and thus win "I'm a victim" arguments and fans, anyways
if i was her you're damn right I would use "I've been getting death threats" to assert my arguments as true.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46364383]The only times I hear of her is when she's either being undeservedly criticized with insults or when she's being harassed.
Maybe she's not as important as you guys make her be??[/QUOTE]
She shouldn't be as important as she is but other people hold her up like some kind of feminist messiah ready to guide the masses to better video games.
[QUOTE=J!NX;46364385]harassment only really causes people like Anita to play victim and thus win "I'm a victim" arguments and fans, anyways
if i was her you're damn right I would use "I've been getting death threats" to assert my arguments as true.[/QUOTE]
I personally would not do that. I don't know why you would want to give people bad reasons to believe you're right.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46364360]whilst I whole heartedly agree with you that she doesn't deserve any form of harassment, there is no format available to argue, or even critic Anita Sarkesian that she will view as she has shut off comments, and doesn't reply to emails that are critical of her work. That and her fan base are pretty much happy to turn off criticism and live in an echo chamber.[/QUOTE]
Well that seems annoying. I guess you could see that behavior itself as an admission that she's not fundamentally serious or doesn't care about the reception of what she has to say.
It's like conspiracy theorists who refuse to have their "papers" peer reviewed.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46364383]The only times I hear of her is when she's either being undeservedly criticized with insults or when she's being harassed.
Maybe she's not as important as you guys make her be??[/QUOTE]
I've been saying this forever.
Her points are so irrelevant, it's the people giving her attention that made her this popular.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46364360]That and her fan base are pretty much happy to turn off criticism and live in an echo chamber.[/QUOTE]
Both sides are at this point. After all threads that plagued Video and Flash Discussion, I see not one person has changed their view point in the slightest. It's always the same users.
[QUOTE=Manibogi;46364368]"She deserves to be harassed for not sharing my opinion and using two words, among other things"
Jesus, I thought I was mental.[/QUOTE]
Did he say that she should be harassed?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46364360]whilst I whole heartedly agree with you that she doesn't deserve any form of harassment, there is no format available to argue, or even critic Anita Sarkesian that she will view as she has shut off comments, and doesn't reply to emails that are critical of her work. That and her fan base are pretty much happy to turn off criticism and live in an echo chamber.[/QUOTE]
Even TotalBiscuit shuts off his YT comments because they're a fucking shitshow. And she has no obligation to reply to criticism of her work. If you feel ignored, ignore her in return.
The problem is that people care way too fucking much that they're being ignored.
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