• Neo-Nazis running anti-immigrant patrols in Arizona
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[QUOTE=Broseph_;23435184] You know, how about this, how about a[b][u] black man[/u][/b] empowered by the very same laws and freedom these neo-nazis fucks are exploiting walking around with a Rifle [i]in Arizona[/i] right the fuck outside a building [b]Obama was having a speech at that same fucking time[/b] [/QUOTE] I sense no racism here. [/sarcasm] :v:
[QUOTE=Colliseemoe;23432920]I lol'd at this.[/QUOTE] Let's see you come up with a justifiable reason for leaving a border unprotected, allowing everyone and their grandmother to cross almost unhindered. I don't think you realize how dangerous that could be, particularly if a terrorist organization of some description wanted to infiltrate our borders. It wouldn't surprise me if a cell or two has already succeeded in crossing undetected.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;23435494]Are you implying that a black man with an assault rifle is more dangerous than a white man with an assault rifle?[/QUOTE] No, I'm implying he seems to think only white racist rednecks open carry rifles when they have no more a right or freedom to carry a Rifle then anyone else including this upstanding citizen I posted :clint:
[QUOTE=Broseph_;23435184]Really after all my post in this thread explaining how they [highlight][I]aren't[/I][/highlight] fully automatics, you still want to spout this bullshit? [/QUOTE] Where in the source does it say that they do not have automatics? Just because they cost a lot more compared to the semi-auto counterpart does not make it impossible for them to have it. Ready, for example, is a former military officer. He could have very well acquired it somehow because of this fact. [QUOTE=Broseph_;23435184]The only difference between Average Joe's pistol and that rifle is a shoulder stock and a longer barrel in the simplest terms[/QUOTE] Sure yes if you ignore muzzle velocity/caliber/mag size/amount of potential energy per bullet. That's like saying the difference between water and honey is a bottle and consistency. [QUOTE=Broseph_;23435184]Also it's just the fucking Texas = [I]Confederate Flags And Ku Klux Klan Militia Hurr[/I] comment right off the bat that has me so worked up right now[/QUOTE] Except the very same post that made you explode with rage wasn't presumption but personal experience. Like I said, you're obviously jumping the gun (hurr). [QUOTE=Broseph_;23435184]You know, how about this, how about a[B][U] black man[/U][/B] empowered by the very same laws and freedom these neo-nazis fucks are exploiting walking around with a Rifle [I]in Arizona[/I] right the fuck outside a building [B]Obama was having a speech at that same fucking time[/B] [IMG]http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00199/Obama_-_assault__199023artw.jpg[/IMG] Does that make you feel better about the Open carry laws?[/QUOTE] No not really they're still really fucking absurd. But the difference between this random black man and Ready's group is that one is an avid neo-nazi patrolling for a minority [B]that he openly discriminates against[/B], while the other has a gun for a different reason.
Somehow a topic about neo nazi fuckheads turned into a gun argument. I'm proud of you FP
[QUOTE=Broseph_;23436075]No, I'm implying he seems to think only white [B]racist[/B] rednecks open carry rifles when they have no more a right or freedom to carry a Rifle then anyone else including this [B]upstanding citizen[/B] I posted :clint:[/QUOTE] Are you implying something about a black man having a gun. Wow look I can pluck pieces from a quote and make out-of-context assumptions too! The funny thing was that I was preparing a detailed post between black stereotypes and redneck stereotypes but then I probably would've been banned for racism.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;23434417]No seriosuly. I'm tired of "herp derp killing neo-nazis would be going down to their level!". Just kill the fucks. They are on the same level of stupidity as Hitler or Ann Coulter or Debbie Schlussel.[/QUOTE] Sometimes killing the stupid is the only solution.
[QUOTE=Swilly;23437681]Sometimes killing the stupid is the only solution.[/QUOTE] Well sure if you wanna be like hitler then go ahead. [editline]11:56PM[/editline] They're not as smart as us we have to execute them!!!! [editline]11:56PM[/editline] Only the smart are human! master race! purge the dumbs!
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;23437726]Well sure if you wanna be like hitler then go ahead. [editline]11:56PM[/editline] They're not as smart as us we have to execute them!!!! [editline]11:56PM[/editline] Only the smart are human! master race! purge the dumbs![/QUOTE] He believed in color of race and look, I believe in what people have to offer society. If they have nothing but bigotry and hate, then why keep them? They are sitting there, just waiting to pull the trigger on people they think should be purged...why should I, give neo-nazies the benefit of the doubt? It is a hypocritical statement, I know that.
[QUOTE=James*;23434766]Would being an ex-marine make it easier I dunno[/QUOTE] Not really. To put it in simpler, calmer terms, to even be eligible to own an automatic firearm in the States, you have to pass a very extensive background check, which can take quite a bit of time, depending on circumstances. Even if you pass the check, the ATF can simply tell you "no" if they feel like it (which they can also do at any point in the process for whatever reason they so choose). After that you have a pile of paperwork to go through. You have the tax stamps for just going through the process to get the weapon, which if I remember correctly are a couple hundred dollars each, in addition to the overall charge for the weapon, which will easily sit around $3000, at least. You might be able to go a little cheaper with some serious shopping, depending on what you're looking for. This whole process can take months, by the way. Oh, and you still have to pay for all the ammunition you'll be eating through. I'm sure I'm forgetting some steps to the process but that's the jist of it. In short, it's a bitch to get an automatic firearm. I'd bet a week's pay those weapons are standard semis, especially considering the group's background and ideological standpoint.
[QUOTE=James*;23432970]I'm still shocked that walking around in public with an assault rifle is legal[/QUOTE] Big deal, it's not like criminals follows laws anyways...
America, greatest nation on Earth.
I'm from Arizona, and in the Phoenix metro area, everyone I know is pretty laid back and lax. Most people I know have accepted Mexicans (illegal or legal). Most of the people I know have taken up Spanish because in some parts of town you can only find Spanish signs and stores. Don't view all Arizonans are racist dumb shits who like hunting "wetbacks". Some of us here like to be accepting and intelligent. Granted, I don't know everyone in Arizona, but please don't write of Arizona as a back water state with retards who like their guns and God. I myself and many of my friends are atheist. Phoenix is actually the fourth largest city in the United States, come visit some time. It's hella hot in the summer (111 degrees f), so come see the Grand Canyon in the winter. [editline]11:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=StickyNade;23435068]The amount of rage in this thread is astounding. As an Arizonan, I felt obliged to defend SB1070 and the fact that people don't like it when a bunch of people sneak into the country using our state border to use our resources and not give back to the system, but then I remembered the rest of Facepunch had already been brainwashed by media fear-mongering and Obama's big black ass, so I'll just say that anybody with the branding of a neo-nazi running around with a high powered weapon of any kind is a pretty scary thing. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - TH89))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Woah, admin, how is this racist? I feel like this man is allowed to have an opinion, granted he doesn't say his opinion very nice, and says that everyone is brain washed by Obama (one of the stupidest things I have heard), I don't feel this was ban worthy, maybe just a message to say "watch the language, punk". Anyways, not my territory to be telling you how to do your job. So in hopes of avoiding ban, moving this post towards the bill: SB1070 isn't racist. It says that anyone doing suspicious activity can be questioned. Now, granted this power could be misused by racist police, but this merely gives State police, one of the powers that federal police have. I think SB1070 could be good if they changed it a little bit. I know in certain parts of Europe, people are required to have papers with them in public property, so if everyone 18 and older just carried around a driver's license than that would be great. But, not everyone has one, which is troublesome for my idea. I think a statewide paper system, or identification card would be a good addition in future years. Just my opinion, don't ban me for racism.
Gunhound... [IMG]http://www.newidcards.com/img/ar.jpg[/IMG] Sup' You're suppose to have one of these by the time your fourteen. That or you make for damn sure you don't break any laws till your sixteen. Then you can get your drivers license.
[QUOTE=ironman17;23433944]Crush them. Crush them to dust. Simple as pie, fuck morality, crush the Neo-Nazis.[/QUOTE] Those 3 dumbs meant that we have neo-nazis here aswell.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23438959]Big deal, it's not like criminals follows laws anyways...[/QUOTE] But then they get arrested because, if it's not legal, carrying around a loaded assault weapon is going to get the police on you pretty quickly. "It should be legal because criminals are going to do it anway" is dumb logic.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;23440304]Those 3 dumbs meant that we have neo-nazis here aswell.[/QUOTE] Or people who actually, you know, realize people have rights. No matter how offensive their rhetoric is, unless they put it into action through violence or other means which infringes on the rights of others, they have a right to their opinion. Saying "kill them" because they espouse bad things is disgusting.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23440369]Or people who actually, you know, realize people have rights. No matter how offensive their rhetoric is, unless they put it into action through violence or other means which infringes on the rights of others, they have a right to their opinion.[/QUOTE] Carrying around a loaded weapon and explicitly stating your intent to kill a human being if they try to cross the border isn't "an opinion", it's a threat of violence, which is not so legal. I don't think they should be killed, but "freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;23440399]Carrying around a loaded weapon and explicitly stating your intent to kill a human being if they try to cross the border isn't "an opinion", it's a threat of violence, which is not so legal. I don't think they should be killed, but "freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.[/QUOTE] Ah, I thought he was referring to neo-nazis in general, bad reading on my part. You're right, that's way past their rights and they need to be reprimanded/limited/whatever. Not killed, obviously, but prevented from behaving in this manner.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;23440036]Gunhound... Sup' You're suppose to have one of these by the time your fourteen. That or you make for damn sure you don't break any laws till your sixteen. Then you can get your drivers license.[/QUOTE]Fourteen? No, I'm pretty positive you have to be at least fifteen years of age. Then you can apply for one.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23440369]Or people who actually, you know, realize people have rights. No matter how offensive their rhetoric is, unless they put it into action through violence or other means which infringes on the rights of others, they have a right to their opinion. Saying "kill them" because they espouse bad things is disgusting.[/QUOTE] Eh, its always free speech. Even when America is so multi cultural, there is still racism. Some people just can't change.
[QUOTE=Swilly;23437827]He believed in color of race and look, I believe in what people have to offer society. If they have nothing but bigotry and hate, then why keep them? They are sitting there, just waiting to pull the trigger on people they think should be purged...why should I, give neo-nazies the benefit of the doubt? It is a hypocritical statement, I know that.[/QUOTE] you're excactly the same.
[quote=Swilly]He believed in color of race and look, I believe in what people have to offer society. If they have nothing but bigotry and hate, then why keep them? They are sitting there, just waiting to pull the trigger on people they think should be purged...why should I, give neo-nazies the benefit of the doubt? It is a hypocritical statement, I know that.[/quote] Okay well where do you draw the line? Would you also execute disabled people that live off the system, offering nothing to society?
[QUOTE=StickyNade;23435068]The amount of rage in this thread is astounding. As an Arizonan, I felt obliged to defend SB1070 and the fact that people don't like it when a bunch of people sneak into the country using our state border to use our resources and not give back to the system, but then I remembered the rest of Facepunch had already been brainwashed by media fear-mongering and Obama's big black ass, so I'll just say that anybody with the branding of a neo-nazi running around with a high powered weapon of any kind is a pretty scary thing. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Racism" - TH89))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Ask any economist who knows what they're talking about, and they'll remind you that illegal immigrants pay more into the system than they take out.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;23439171]America, greatest nation on Earth.[/QUOTE] America DOES have the potential to be the single greatest nation, and this is coming from a Canadian. Yet the US is filled with people who continually insist on making it one of the worst.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;23442683]America DOES have the potential to be the single greatest nation, and this is coming from a Canadian. Yet the US is filled with people who continually insist on making it one of the worst.[/QUOTE] I'm an American, I even agree on this.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;23441870]Okay well where do you draw the line? Would you also execute disabled people that live off the system, offering nothing to society?[/QUOTE] They offer friendship to everyone...They are the only human beings who truly cannot hate. So no.....I would not, I like mentally handicapped kids. But I'm not saying genocide is an answer either. I'm wishing it were.
christ people fully automatic weapons are illegal what laws are you reading.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23440369]Or people who actually, you know, realize people have rights. No matter how offensive their rhetoric is, unless they put it into action through violence or other means which infringes on the rights of others, they have a right to their opinion. Saying "kill them" because they espouse bad things is disgusting.[/QUOTE] I know some neo-nazis, they are nice.
[QUOTE=FunnyGamer;23437624]Where in the source does it say that they do not have automatics? Just because they cost a lot more compared to the semi-auto counterpart does not make it impossible for them to have it. Ready, for example, is a former military officer. He could have very well acquired it somehow because of this fact.[/QUOTE] Where in the source does it say they [i]are[/i] Automatics? No it doesn't, being in the U.S. military does not give you a fucking golden ticket to having a Semi-Automatic. And for fucks sake, he's a neo-nazi, you think that shithead would have the knowledge required to even save up the amount of money required to buy a Automatic? [QUOTE=FunnyGamer;23437624]Sure yes if you ignore muzzle velocity/caliber/mag size/amount of potential energy per bullet. That's like saying the difference between water and honey is a bottle and consistency.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, the man who thinks every fucking, AK-47, especially one at a Pawnshop, is a fully Automatic wants to start to get all technical on my ass on guns At least you didn't call a Magazine a clip [QUOTE=FunnyGamer;23437624]Except the very same post that made you explode with rage wasn't presumption but personal experience. Like I said, you're obviously jumping the gun (hurr).[/QUOTE] A personal experience? How the hell does a post like that sound like a [i]personal experience[/i]? Who the hell just have a local come up to them while they are driving down a street and tell them [i]Herpa durr dar's a milisha centar up da road[/i], especially one where there's cunts walking around in Klan Robes and waving the fucking Dixie, [b][i]Especially[/i][/b] in fucking South Texas along the god damn border, Klans don't operate in Texas outside of the bayous along the Texas-Louisiana border since we don't put up with their bullshit unlike the retarded states we border [QUOTE=FunnyGamer;23437624]No not really they're still really fucking absurd.[/QUOTE] Then don't go to Arizona [QUOTE=FunnyGamer;23437624]But the difference between this random black man and Ready's group is that one is an avid neo-nazi patrolling for a minority [B]that he openly discriminates against[/B], while the other has a gun for a different reason.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and? If mister Neo-nazi fuckballs here wants to get out of line, There's going to be Chris with his AR-15 there to give him a 5.56mm push back due to the fact these open carry laws are exclusive to mister Neo-Nazi [editline]11:30AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;23440368]But then they get arrested because, if it's not legal, [b]carrying around a loaded assault weapon is going to get the police on you pretty quickly[/b]. "It should be legal because criminals are going to do it anway" is dumb logic.[/QUOTE] Depends on the state and how common the practice is, I know in Arizona Open Carry is common enough to were people and the Police are used to it, though in other states where it's not common even though it's legal you might get harassed a bit by the Police until they check to see it's legal if it's one of those states which don't require licenses for it. Meanwhile here in Texas, the apparently wild-west despite what Hollywood would lead you to believe, has oddball open carry laws, for pistols it's outright illegal to open carry Pistols unless you are a [i]uniformed[/i] security guard, meanwhile for rifles, the law is intentionally vague to leave it it's left up to the officer's discretion(or the Department's he's under depending on their policies) rather or not to stop you since the law states one must be open carrying a [i]long arm in a way to cause alarm[/i], which varies widely in Texas since in rural areas they won't give a shit but in Urban Areas you may get stopped
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