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[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42249612]I just noticed something. You only came in to the thread to attack him. That is literally the only thing you've done in this thread.[/QUOTE]
well aren't you just the littlest detective? please awe me with some more shocking revelations. i'm desperate to hear them.
[editline]20th September 2013[/editline]
you know what i'm gonna take 5 and go play the sims for a little bit.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42249537]Funny, it seems like he does that a lot as well. He doesn't address things, and when pushed he goes 'anti-conspiritard'. If nothing else he acts like the banks can do no wrong and that it is impossible that maybe rich/powerful people get together and make a mutually beneficial plan. He also has a habit of attacking the person as opposed to the argument or evidence. I am not saying I have never been wrong with him before, but I cant say he has ever extended that courtesy to anyone else AFAIK.[/QUOTE]Most of the time I see him and plenty of others addressing and refuting what you say because its so easy. When you make unfounded claims with zero substantive backing, you won't be taken seriously. And its typically rather hard to refute a point when there is no evidence to be refuted to begin with. And when things are so easy, that leaves people with free time to point out how ridiculous you look.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42249684]Most of the time I see him and plenty of others addressing and refuting what you say because its so easy. When you make unfounded claims with zero substantive backing, you won't be taken seriously. And its typically rather hard to refute a point when there is no evidence to be refuted to begin with. And when things are so easy, that leaves people with free time to point out how ridiculous you look.[/QUOTE]
do you mind? i'm trying to plant cherry blossoms in my garden.
[editline]20th September 2013[/editline]
what a gay sentence.
Stormfront is more sane than this fucking thread
my character has been standing in the exact same fucking spot for the past 5 minutes.
he's trying to get into the kitchen and doesn't know how to walk three feet to the left and turn right instead of trying to morph through the wooden table.
[editline]20th September 2013[/editline]
i'm crashing a goddamn meteor into the backyard.
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[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42249684]Most of the time I see him and plenty of others addressing and refuting what you say because its so easy. When you make unfounded claims with zero substantive backing, you won't be taken seriously. And its typically rather hard to refute a point when there is no evidence to be refuted to begin with. And when things are so easy, that leaves people with free time to point out how ridiculous you look.[/QUOTE]
I don't have many things that I argue, and some of them have been in PMs with Sobotnik. But the things I hold onto are things that I have more than just "unfounded claims with zero substantive backing". More often then not they are things I would like the skeptic hordes to do away with so I can move on with my thought process.
Things like;
Banking Cartels
[url="http://www.businessinsider.com/traders-rigging-foreign-exchange-rates-2013-6"]Profit Illegally[/url] From A [url="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425"]Corrupt Economy[/url], and [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRYEFEJRw44"]Finance Shady Folk[/url]
[url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8308903.stm"]Monsanto is a horrible company who lies[/url] and [url="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756170"] research[/url] is insufficient on [url="http://blogs.wsj.com/brussels/2013/06/13/study-youre-in-trouble-roundup/"]GMOs.[/url]
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy_juuWhUho"]There is some shit going on in the skies.[/url]
[url="http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571"]Fluoride[/url] is bioaccumalative and can result in calcification of various tissues, including the brain, [url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fluoride_b_2479833.html"]resulting in a dip in IQ[/url].
To name a few.
Obviously the reptilians are doing all those things.
[QUOTE=person11;42250447]Obviously the reptilians are doing all those things.[/QUOTE]
good joke no one has ever made this joke ever before dude congrats
and to think that people could rationally discuss economic policy for at least 2 pages before devolving into personal attacks
[QUOTE=Lamar;42250914]It's happening guys
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2013/09/19/gold-prices-soar-taper/2838565/[/url][/QUOTE]
Nuh uh, gold is bad, I read it in a book about economics
[QUOTE=Lamar;42250914]It's happening guys
[url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2013/09/19/gold-prices-soar-taper/2838565/[/url][/QUOTE]
Sure looks like gold prices are stable and not in any way influenced by market forces.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42251955]Sure looks like gold prices are stable and not in any way influenced by market forces.[/QUOTE]
Or shady banksters
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42253786]Or shady banksters[/QUOTE]
If powerful governments can't control prices, what makes you think bankers can?
The market wins in the end. Nobody can fully control such a beast.
Especially when gold is only as valuable as the trust people put into it.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42253943]If powerful governments can't control prices, what makes you think bankers can?
The market wins in the end. Nobody can fully control such a beast.[/QUOTE]
Because banks are intrinsically linked with the flow of money, where as the government is not.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;42253969]Because banks are intrinsically linked with the flow of money, where as the government is not.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is?
The government taxes money, and then spends it. States also have the power to create money as well.
Most countries have a central bank as well, so banks are subservient to the state, not the other way around.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42254028]Yes it is?
The government taxes money, and then spends it. States also have the power to create money as well.
Most countries have a central bank as well, so banks are subservient to the state, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
When it comes to the central bank in the US, the Federal Reserve is diffrient. This special lil bank and the dollar which it issues got a couple of special characteristics. But let me just poke in a small basic fact about the very nature of this central bank, without going into the depth of the much larger global scheme.
The Fed is a [U][B]privately owned[/B][/U] central bank. The Fed prints money out of nothing and then loans it to the US government & then takes interest on it. This means that there will never be enough money in the system to pay off the ever-increasing debt.
[QUOTE=Tengil;42254433]The Fed is a [U][B]privately owned[/B][/U] central bank. The Fed prints money out of nothing and then loans it to the US government & then takes interest on it. This means that there will never be enough money in the system to pay off the ever-increasing debt.[/QUOTE]
Why is why the board of governors are appointed by the president, it is subject to congressional oversight, the higher up employees salaries and appointments are directly controlled by the government, all profits go to the US government, is required to make an annual report to the house of representatives, terms are capped at 14 years, and members of the board can be removed by the president?
All the fed is, is the monopoly supplier of money. Some people think a monopoly money supplier is a bad thing. It means that I cannot issue certificates claiming ownership of metal bullion. Doing such is a pretty powerful thing because that means that I can issue as many certificates as I want as long as I can maintain the piece of paper's value. People can see all sorts of shit going down with the fed fiat dollars are a very new thing.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42254500]Why is why the board of governors are appointed by the president, it is subject to congressional oversight, the higher up employees salaries and appointments are directly controlled by the government, all profits go to the US government, is required to make an annual report to the house of representatives, terms are capped at 14 years, and members of the board can be removed by the president?[/QUOTE]
That is not true. Which of the two words of "privately owned" did you not understand?
The board of directors are nobodies. The real owners are the shareholders.
[QUOTE=Tengil;42254995]That is not true. Which of the two words of "privately owned" did you not understand?
The board of directors are nobodies. The real owners are the shareholders.[/QUOTE]
Erm, it's not exactly private. It's practically a part of the state.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42255017]Erm, it's not exactly private. It's practically a part of the state.[/QUOTE]
It is. There is no point in debating with you anyway.
But for anyone else reading through this thread. The Federal Reserve is not the only central bank which is owned by this group of people, Even the Bank of England and the ECB are theirs.
Almost every nation on this planet are being plunged into never-ending debt. When infinte money hits a very finite world. Shit will hit the fan big time. Nobody will be spared. Not even proud supporters of the jidf or of a certian ideology.
Buy gold, or any other valuable commodity in order to secure any wealth that you might have. Get food that lasts for a long time. Because when the delicate system that we live is put to a halt, food will become scarce. During the great depression over 10 million people died of starvation. What the numbers would be in an even greater crisis & with todays high population i do not dare to think about.
If you have any doubts surrounding this. Please google around and youtube a bit. Check out the history of banking, it will give you some good clues to what the heck is actually going on.
[QUOTE=Tengil;42255421]It is. There is no point in debating with you anyway.
But for anyone else reading through this thread. The Federal Reserve is not the only central bank which is owned by this group of people, Even the Bank of England and the ECB are theirs.
Almost every nation on this planet are being plunged into never-ending debt. When infinte money hits a very finite world. Shit will hit the fan big time. Nobody will be spared. Not even proud supporters of the jidf or of a certian ideology.
Buy gold, or any other valuable commodity in order to secure any wealth that you might have. Get food that lasts for a long time. Because when the delicate system that we live is put to a halt, food will become scarce. During the great depression over 10 million people died of starvation. What the numbers would be in an even greater crisis & with todays high population i do not dare to think about.
If you have any doubts surrounding this. Please google around and youtube a bit. Check out the history of banking, it will give you some good clues to what the heck is actually going on.[/QUOTE]
How about the public revolts and demand the banks to straighten their shit out?
We're in the age of communication, in less than one hour, a US wide flashmob could be started if people would just give a damn.
And if they don't give a damn about that, why do you think they'd give a damn about buying gold?
[QUOTE=Tengil;42255421]It is. There is no point in debating with you anyway.
But for anyone else reading through this thread. The Federal Reserve is not the only central bank which is owned by [b]this group of people[/b], Even the Bank of England and the ECB are theirs.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, of a certain ethnicity you seem to hate.
[quote]Buy gold, or any other valuable commodity in order to secure any wealth that you might have. Get food that lasts for a long time. Because when the delicate system that we live is put to a halt, food will become scarce. During the great depression over 10 million people died of starvation. What the numbers would be in an even greater crisis & with todays high population i do not dare to think about.[/quote]
Since when is gold valuable during an apocalypse? Cigarettes are a better form of currency.
[QUOTE=Tengil;42255421]It is. There is no point in debating with you anyway.
But for anyone else reading through this thread. The Federal Reserve is not the only central bank which is owned by this group of people, Even the Bank of England and the ECB are theirs.
Almost every nation on this planet are being plunged into never-ending debt. When infinte money hits a very finite world. Shit will hit the fan big time. Nobody will be spared. Not even proud supporters of the jidf or of a certian ideology.
Buy gold, or any other valuable commodity in order to secure any wealth that you might have. Get food that lasts for a long time. Because when the delicate system that we live is put to a halt, food will become scarce. During the great depression over 10 million people died of starvation. What the numbers would be in an even greater crisis & with todays high population i do not dare to think about.
If you have any doubts surrounding this. Please google around and youtube a bit. Check out the history of banking, it will give you some good clues to what the heck is actually going on.[/QUOTE]Did you seriously just use a roundabout way to say "The Jews are using the banking system to take over the world and will eliminate everyone else."?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42255454]Since when is gold valuable during an apocalypse? Cigarettes are a better form of currency.[/QUOTE]
Or preserved & canned foods and tools that doesn't need electricity to be operated.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42255454]Since when is gold valuable during an apocalypse? Cigarettes are a better form of currency.[/QUOTE]Handbags. Put a bar in a handbag and you have a potent weapon.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;42255507]Handbags. Put a bar in a handbag and you have a potent weapon.[/QUOTE]
I'd prefer to fill my handbag with tinned food.
One cannot eat gold.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42258658]I'd prefer to fill my handbag with tinned food.
One cannot eat gold.[/QUOTE]Never doubt Ron Paul.
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