• Metal Gear Rising Revengeance might not have Revengeance in title anymore
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[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;33694063]Raiden is just whiny, girly Grey Fox. Did you [I]see[/I] what Grey Fox did in the earlier games?[/QUOTE] Attempt to stop rex's massive hydrolic leg and got liquidized into blood? [editline]12th December 2011[/editline] After being blown up and slicing bullets in half.
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I kind of like this game as a spin off knowing that there's an official mgs5 coming out soon. The consistency of Raiden's strength kinda confuses me though, like he can throw a giant mech into the air, however it takes more than 1 slice to cut/kill a human. Oh and he was always the girly looking anime stereotype, I think that was done purposely back in MGS2 as a counter to Snake's manly design.
[QUOTE=theLazyLion;33696079]I kind of like this game as a spin off knowing that there's an official mgs5 coming out soon. The consistency of Raiden's strength kinda confuses me though, like he can through a giant mech into the air, however it takes more than 1 slice to cut/kill a human. Oh and he was always the girly looking anime stereotype, I think that was done purposely back in MGS2 as a counter to Snake's manly design.[/QUOTE] Wait a second, the next Metal Gear Solid game is confirmed? (not Metal Gear Rising)
Raiden was sort of meant to be a statement about players wanting to be like Solid Snake, and an alternate viewpoint of seeing how Snake really was. However, he was a little too, 'japanese' for the American audience's tastes compared to the gruff, badass that was Solid Snake (from the young, 'pretty' appearance to his naive nature), so everyone went bitch mode. I think his Rising and MGS4 appearances were sort of meant to remedy this by making him more badass to fall in line with Snake, but no one still caught on. Kind of annoys the piss out of me, though, to see people bitching about how it's not a sneaking game like the others despite being a sidestory. .. And the fact that you can run-and-gun through most of the fourth game.
[QUOTE=RikohZX;33696710] .. And the fact that you can run-and-gun through most of the fourth game.[/QUOTE] all of the games could be run-and-gun they gave you the fucking [b]choice[/b]
[QUOTE=TheJoey;33696724]all of the games could be run-and-gun they gave you the fucking [b]choice[/b][/QUOTE] Well, it [i]is[/i] far easier to do so with the reworked aim-shoot mechanics and camera, which made taking enemies out way too easy most of the time compared to the older games; in which the more 'clunky' camera and combat kind of made you that much more weary of setting off an Alert. But you have a good point either way. v:v:v
[QUOTE=RikohZX;33696818]Well, it [i]is[/i] far easier to do so with the reworked aim-shoot mechanics and camera, which made taking enemies out way too easy most of the time compared to the older games; in which the more 'clunky' camera and combat kind of made you that much more weary of setting off an Alert. But you have a good point either way. v:v:v[/QUOTE] to be fair I think MGS4 also had even more unlockables that made most enemies really worthless and easy to gun down too, kinda like what MGS3's Patriot was like x20.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33694054]He twirls two Gekkos around by his legs, smashing them in to other Gekkos and buildings in MGS4. I think they already established him as being bizarrely strong.[/QUOTE] That scene was much more tasteful in comparison to slashing an airborne metal gear apart.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;33694040]True, but there has to be a limit somewhere, even then he didn't fully stop the ship.[/QUOTE] And a ship is much, much, MUCH heavier than a metal gear. So yeah, if he can almost stop a ship with one arm you can be dead sure he can carry a metal gear with both. Also, I forgot, it's a fucking japanese game, it didn't make any sense back with MGS, it doesn't make any now. It's not MGS, MGS 5 is also on the rails, so just stop complaining about the game not being another MGS franchise when some originality is finally being tried, and when another proper episode is also being made.
The thing people don't understand is that this isn't MGS. MGS was with Snake and dealed with Stealth (Run & Gun if you really felt like it but that's not how it was meant to be played). This is entirely different, no stealth just pure action from Raiden's view. Meanwhile all the MGS fans are still shitting themselves with rage. Shit is like the new DMC. They decided to show Dante when he's still in his teens so he should have a completely different style and somewhat different appearance right? Well he does and yet fans are once again shitting themselves with rage.
Revengeance is a stupid name it needs a serious name mgs is serious series. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON0ivXpdIx0[/media]
[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;33694063]Raiden is just whiny, girly Grey Fox. Did you [I]see[/I] what Grey Fox did in the earlier games?[/QUOTE] Get stepped on and die? Or do you mean when solid snake punched him in the face five hundred times as he ran around a small room?
To anyone who doesn't know what the gameplay debate is about: This is Metal Gear Solid: Rising, from E3 2011 [video=youtube;AtM3PGyiQUc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc[/video] This is Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance: Electric Boogahackandslash, from Spike's VGAs 2011 [video=youtube;5SNo8h-KfAU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SNo8h-KfAU[/video]
why is saying shit like "take that" feel's like Dante
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;33693684]They haven't "abandoned" MGS. The main character in Revengeance is Raiden. Does Raiden crawl through grass and hide in a box? No one complained when Raiden cut his own arm off, stopped an entire fucking ship with the other one, survived, fought an entire room of super soldier PMC troops with nothing but his feet and mouth, but when this comes out? SHIT HITS THE FAN.[/QUOTE] Thats not the point. The point is that they went from a gray fox version kind of gameplay with raiden to DMC dante style. Check for the first gameplay trailers and then watch the new one and you'll see why calling it metal gear is a mistake. And he wasn't stopping a ship that had the actual intention of doing REAL damage BTW. [editline]13th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=brandonsh;33694507]MGR looks pretty fun to me, just pretend it's not Metal Gear.[/QUOTE] Exactly what I'm gonna do, because its one of those games to turn off your brain and mash all the buttons.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;33693684]They haven't "abandoned" MGS. The main character in Revengeance is Raiden. Does Raiden crawl through grass and hide in a box? [B]No one complained when Raiden cut his own arm off, stopped an entire fucking ship with the other one, survived, fought an entire room of super soldier PMC troops with nothing but his feet and mouth, but when this comes out? SHIT HITS THE FAN.[/B][/QUOTE] I, a big MGS fan, complained. Raiden is the worst thing that has ever happened. He's a stupid faggot and made MGS4 a less pleasant experience.
You could have completely cut Raiden out of MGS4 and it would have made no difference. Any other sort of plot element to get Snake/whomever out of an impossible situation would have worked.
[QUOTE=Zeos;33698545]You could have completely cut Raiden out of MGS4 and it would have made no difference. Any other sort of plot element to get Snake/whomever out of an impossible situation would have worked.[/QUOTE] True. I used to not care or even like him back then, but after playing with him, he really did feel very awkward and out of place. He just made Snake even more awesome, even as an old man.
Just call it Metal Gear Rising and your sorted. There's no need for the Revengeance part. And change the font aswell. The original title font was brilliant.
[QUOTE=kevlar jens;33698482]I, a big MGS fan, complained. Raiden is the worst thing that has ever happened. He's a stupid faggot and made MGS4 a less pleasant experience.[/QUOTE] Thank god someone actually agrees. Everything else was fine and tolerable but he was put in just for the whole crowd that likes their asinine anime shit. [editline]13th December 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeos;33698545]You could have completely cut Raiden out of MGS4 and it would have made no difference. Any other sort of plot element to get Snake/whomever out of an impossible situation would have worked.[/QUOTE] Technically, they could've cut him out of MGS2 and put someone else in his place because really, he was a blank character and was nothing more than symbolism. A different character design but all the same situations and actions, MGS2 would've run the same and Kojima Productions wouldn't have to deal with all this backlash about how bad Raiden is.
[QUOTE=theLazyLion;33696079]I kind of like this game as a spin off[/QUOTE] I said exactly the same thing about Metal Gear Solid!
[QUOTE=Mon;33691898]lol revengeance this game is going to be disowned by the mgs community[/QUOTE] Good thing it's not a Metal Gear Solid game then, isn't it?
Watching the trailer, the game looks good as it is, but I don't understand why those regular soldiers take so many hits to die. The sword clearly passes right through them, and as they are obviously human that should be an instant kill. It seems a bit unreal to have this super soldier who can throw huge machine tank things like they are tennis balls, but have to hit a human soldier with his sword several times to kill them. It's as if the game is trying to be like Devil May Cry, but that worked because the enemies that Dante would hack and slash to pieces tended to be demons who you could understand surviving a sword hit. If those soldiers got cut apart easily, I'd be happy with the trailer for what it is. Also, why do they even bother with guns if everyone just dodges the bullets and stabs each other?
I've never played any Metal Gear game (because i want to play them in order), was looking forward to this though. The latest trailer doesn't make it seem as a good as i hoped. The new name is stupid. Why not just call it Metal Gear Rising?
The gameplay looks just doesn't look like MGS at all. So do Graphics. Not sure if this will be a success, why didn't they keep the old layout?
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;33703748]The gameplay looks just doesn't look like MGS at all. So do Graphics. [/quote] It's not MGS, so it doesn't have to look like it. [QUOTE=Dark RaveN;33703748] Not sure if this will be a success, why didn't they keep the old layout?[/QUOTE] Probably because the previous layout was just a tech demo.
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People keep calling this an MGS. Why can't they look at the name of the fucking game?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;33703835] Probably because the previous layout was just a tech demo.[/QUOTE] hmmmnah most likely because it was cancelled and then picked up by Platinum games
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