FCC Republicans vow to gut net neutrality rules “as soon as possible” - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51559687]I'm still fucking pissed that it was now of all elections that the DNC had to shove an extremely unfavorable candidate down our throats, through collusion with DWS, Donna Brazile, etc. Was it worth it, DNC?[/QUOTE] The left has an arrogance problem. It makes plans based on unfounded confidnce which back fire. The right are unsophticated.

[QUOTE=helpiminabox;51559391]While I agree that there is some overreaction, if I get fucked over by my ISP all I have to do is switch to one of the better alternatives in my area such as Oh wait, my ISP has no competition in this area. I'm sure quite a few people are in this same boat as well.[/QUOTE] I personally heavily disagree with no net neutrality, and since I am pretty far right I'd assume most of EVERYONE is going to oppose this. I agree with everyone who says that this is a bad call, but everyone who's just saying "DUMB REPUBLICANS RUIN EVERYTHING" doesn't prove much. [QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;51559399]Except in the cases where anti-trust is ignored and competition is pushed out, or so small it can't compete with price fixing monopolies. People will fight and protest, but ultimately 90% of us will decide it's way easier to give in and pay the fee. A lot of our livelihoods and jobs depend on internet access, but it's not like a hunger strike - only we are the ones with something to lose. What reason do corporations have to listen to protests, if they know we don't have a choice and would pay up either way? They have 0 requirement to do anything other than pulling in cash - and charging for websites is so much cash it'd be unthinkable to not take the option. [editline]a[/editline] I appreciate you not defending Trump by saying there's [i]nothing[/i] wrong with this, though. Concession is a good starting point.[/QUOTE] While I appreciate you appreciating me not defending Trump, I can't entirely say that Trump has much to do with this. This is a mere two Republicans who are trying to change something they have power over. [QUOTE=Raidyr;51559457]American politics protip, when Republicans suggest something that makes you go "hey wait hold on what are we doing I don't think that is a great idea" and their reasoning includes jobs or job creation, they are actually full of shit.[/QUOTE] So glad you've got so much to contribute to this. Thanks for negatively generalizing half of the country bud.

It seems like every day America's future becomes more and more scary and doomed. :v:

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51559724] So glad you've got so much to contribute to this. Thanks for negatively generalizing half of the country bud.[/QUOTE] At worst I generalized half of Congress, don't be so quick to jump on that cross

I can't imagine that removing net neutrality would make the republicans a popular choice next election when most of people's daily lives consist of using the internet. They can try but it would be the equivalent of shooting themselves in the foot.

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51559353]You have to realize people aren't [I]that[/I] stupid. They aren't going to just blindly say "oh wow comcast is making me pay to access this website let me just ignore the other alternatives out there and give them what they want." In the prosperous and wonderful capitalist society we live in, competition still exists, meaning companies actually have to give the consumer what they want.[/QUOTE] Hahahaha you think the America ISP market is "prosperous and wonderful", you think that ISP's compete. Fuck no, they have a monopoly on service and they know it. Prices are high and service is poor, but it's like that for all options because they've agreed, whether formally or informally, to not compete. You know what happens when someone tries to compete? Lawsuits. Some town tries to get a local government run provider set up, they get sued and shut down by the big boys. Google tries to roll out cheap and fast internet, lawsuits trying to get Google kicked out of town. And when Google wins, suddenly Comcast offers triple speeds for half the price with no network modifications. It's almost like they could have done that at any time in the past, but decided not to because it was more lucrative to milk the money cow.

[QUOTE=Domokun;51559957]I can't imagine that removing net neutrality would make the republicans a popular choice next election when most of people's daily lives consist of using the internet. They can try but it would be the equivalent of shooting themselves in the foot.[/QUOTE] I mean nobody thought working class people would elect a billionaire who lives in a golden penthouse as president but here we are. If Trump can win a narrow electoral victory off the backs of key rust belt states Republicans can absolutely convince people net neutrality is bad.

[QUOTE=Saxon;51558122]Hopefully big sites will organize a campaign, republicans will flip on it like SOPA if they think it will lose them a lot of support[/QUOTE] That's probably going to be what happens. Remember the whole blackout thing with sopa/pipa? Would NOT doubt that some massive websites protest this.

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51559353]Oh god here it goes again Every single time something like this pops up in the headlines everyone on facepunch goes crazy over it like it's the end of the world. Someone was even talking about a January 2017 depression, that's nice. Remember when that access holywood tape came out and everyone was like "oh shit this is big donald trump is DONE republican party is gone for yayy!!!!!!" but he still won the presidency by a fairly large margin? You have to realize people aren't [I]that[/I] stupid. They aren't going to just blindly say "oh wow comcast is making me pay to access this website let me just ignore the other alternatives out there and give them what they want." In the prosperous and wonderful capitalist society we live in, competition still exists, meaning companies actually have to give the consumer what they want.[/QUOTE] Ignoring the fact that we don't live in a free market and crony capitalism is rampant... Remember all those times that the potential for massive amounts of shit happened (i.e. SOPA, PIPA, TPP, DAPL) and the only reason they didn't occur was the monumental efforts of protesting by people who were also freaking out and actually trying to do something about it.

[QUOTE=Pootis Mann;51559724]I personally heavily disagree with no net neutrality, and since I am pretty far right I'd assume most of EVERYONE is going to oppose this. I agree with everyone who says that this is a bad call, but everyone who's just saying "DUMB REPUBLICANS RUIN EVERYTHING" doesn't prove much. While I appreciate you appreciating me not defending Trump, I can't entirely say that Trump has much to do with this. This is a mere two Republicans who are trying to change something they have power over. So glad you've got so much to contribute to this. Thanks for negatively generalizing half of the country bud.[/QUOTE] I like how you completely ignored where people pointed out that there is virtually no competition among ISPs (and no, this is not due to net neutrality) and just defended Republicans.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51559678]Democrats supported this bill because they don't support drone strikes because of the collateral damage. Republicans support drone strikes because it means less troop casualties and who cares about collateral damage? They only supported this bill because they thought it just meant that families can sue Saudi Arabia.[/QUOTE] Also it's hard to run for re-election when your opponent can go [B]"HE VOTED [I]AGAINST[/I] JUSTICE FOR VICTIMS OF 9/11"[/B]

how can people vote republican when they do shit like this [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] like, honestly, ive never understood that

[QUOTE=.Vel;51560065]That's probably going to be what happens. Remember the whole blackout thing with sopa/pipa? Would NOT doubt that some massive websites protest this.[/QUOTE] Netflix whose a big supporter of net neutrality could simply post a banner on their page when you login, its one of the biggest sources of web traffic so it would have a massive effect on awareness. [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] Net Neutrality has a massive amount of support and those who oppose it are a minority. The reason why they're going around the senate and courts and internally voting is because it would still be upheld. Its very much a move designed to only benefit big cable.

I really hope this shit isn't going to spread to other countries.

[QUOTE=DarklytheGreat;51560733]how can people vote republican when they do shit like this [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] like, honestly, ive never understood that[/QUOTE] when have facts mattered

[QUOTE=Saxon;51560774]Netflix whose a big supporter of net neutrality could simply post a banner on their page when you login, its one of the biggest sources of web traffic so it would have a massive effect on awareness. [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] Net Neutrality has a massive amount of support and those who oppose it are a minority. The reason why they're going around the senate and courts and internally voting is because it would still be upheld. Its very much a move designed to only benefit big cable.[/QUOTE] I feel like if enough of a stink were to be raised then even with an internal vote they'd have to at least consider softer action against it. As shitty as this is the Republicans do want to get reelected.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51557935]It's so fucking bullshit that net neutrality has become a partisan issue. I thought Republicans were supposed to be for rights? It seems they're only for whatever will line their pockets.[/QUOTE] No, no, no, you simply don't understand. After Reagan was elected the Republican party gave up on the notion of protecting rights and limiting the size of government. Ever since it's been the Corporate Party.

[QUOTE=God of Ashes;51557979]it pains me to see something so free and open like the internet at the mercy of these men who put the needs of their corporate sponsors over that of the people. they should feel so much shame.[/QUOTE] Hey man, it's not like your freedom to use the internet without being throttled because you didn't sign up for X package doesn't matter, it's just that their freedom to charge you for it matters more. /s