[I]You cannot employ more Lawyers.
You must construct additional courthouses.[/I]
Same shit with economists.
That's why I'm going for Engineering.
Ha! Law degrees. Good thing I'm getting my degree in [i]art history.[/i]
Why is everyone after engineering, that's what I'm going for
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;36488116]Why is everyone after engineering, that's what I'm going for[/QUOTE]
If the sounds of this are any indication, engineers are going to be having the same problems in a few years.
Law is where it is today because it's the go-to profession for people who don't know what they want to do with their lives. Sounds like engineering is starting to take a bite out of that pie.
I'm severely tempted after finishing my BSc Applied Phys. to run back into the warm embrace of university and do a masters. At least the job market might get a little better.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;36487976]That or start working on a student position during studies. Often enough after you finish you usually stay on.
But yeah it's getting brutal. From my understand the advocate organisation here is pushing at unis to start throwing out a lot more people. And it's actually got a lot worse these past 3 years or so.[/QUOTE]
The best advice I could give, though, is [I]wait[/I] to go to law school. Don't buy into this "if you don't go now you never will" crap. If you stop and never end up going to law school, that's probably because you shouldn't have been going to law school.
If you want to explore the field, get a bachelor's in [I]anything[/I]. Preferably something with its own merits. Try to get some paralegal work and if/when you do, stick with it for a few years before you commit to law school.
If you find yourself mind-numbingly bored doing that, you simply do not belong in a legal profession.
If you're someone that can actually take interest in incredibly obscure minutia for completely irrelevant issues (I wasn't), then you might just make it in law.
Working paralegal before law is sort of like going to Community College before Uni. You get some experience to put on your resume, meet important people and build a network in the field (which is IMMENSELY important if you want to get anywhere as a lawyer,) and you don't put yourself in massive debt. And if it doesn't work out, you can look for work in whatever field you got your bachelor's in.
Probably the worst thing you can do is start your bachelor's/associate's by saying "I want to be a lawyer."
[Speaking as a layman right now. I never did this so don't take my word for it.]
[QUOTE=Impact1986;36485969]Good that I don't have that problem as an engineer.[/QUOTE]
Less lawyers, more engineers and world will become a better (or atleast more developed) place :v:
[QUOTE=oskutin;36488460]Less lawyers, more engineers and world will become a better (or atleast more developed) [highlight]palce[/highlight] :v:[/QUOTE]
also some english majors would be cool :v:
[QUOTE=Camundongo;36487707]Law students had the lowest level of unemployment at 6.2%... Not that that says anything about Law students :v:[/QUOTE]
EA needs more lawyers to fight against "piracy" :v:
Hope its not the same in the UK.
Wait who am I kidding, its even worse over here. Can't even get an unpaid god dam work placement as a 2nd year law student.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36487699]i considered getting a creative writing degree :(
thankfully, i chose the infinitely more worthwhile field of [I]political science[/I] for my bachelor's
i am a [I]scientist[/I][/QUOTE]
I have an honours in English and creative writing :C
I do wish I picked something easy and useful like business though.
capitalism
"make the most out of your education for a job that will get you money! a law degree will allow you this!"
5 years later
"lol we lied you gotta work another 40 years before you want our money"
[QUOTE=Lankist;36488128]Law is where it is today because it's the go-to profession for people who don't know what they want to do with their lives. Sounds like engineering is starting to take a bite out of that pie.[/QUOTE]
I always thought that Medical was the way to go if you don't know what to do. Of all the kids I went to highschool with, the vast majority of them turned to nursing or vet tech. The rest entered the police academy or just decided to not get any more education.
I do know one kid who entered the seminary though.
I'm going into computer or electrical engineering though. I don't know what I want to do with it yet exactly, but working with computers has always been my passion. I'm also getting an associates in business administration.
Also, Lankist is apparently a lawyer. It suddenly all makes sense.
[QUOTE=Lankist;36488233]The best advice I could give, though, is [I]wait[/I] to go to law school. Don't buy into this "if you don't go now you never will" crap. If you stop and never end up going to law school, that's probably because you shouldn't have been going to law school.
If you want to explore the field, get a bachelor's in [I]anything[/I]. Preferably something with its own merits. Try to get some paralegal work and if/when you do, stick with it for a few years before you commit to law school.
If you find yourself mind-numbingly bored doing that, you simply do not belong in a legal profession.
If you're someone that can actually take interest in incredibly obscure minutia for completely irrelevant issues (I wasn't), then you might just make it in law.
Working paralegal before law is sort of like going to Community College before Uni. You get some experience to put on your resume, meet important people and build a network in the field (which is IMMENSELY important if you want to get anywhere as a lawyer,) and you don't put yourself in massive debt. And if it doesn't work out, you can look for work in whatever field you got your bachelor's in.
Probably the worst thing you can do is start your bachelor's/associate's by saying "I want to be a lawyer."
[Speaking as a layman right now. I never did this so don't take my word for it.][/QUOTE]
Fourth year law student. Telling me what should have been done four years ago is a bit ouchie :P Also most companies actually won't employ nonlegal students for paralegs. Though that's a bit due to not being american, where it's probably different.[B][/B]
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;36488548]Hope its not the same in the UK.
Wait who am I kidding, its even worse over here. Can't even get an unpaid god dam work placement as a 2nd year law student.[/QUOTE]
Ask around on the courts themselves. They usually offer short term student positions. It's mostly carrying casebooks, but it's law work. And if you're lucky you can convince your uni to give you a credit or two for the thing.
It's something people rarely talk about, but which is fairly important from time to time.
I'm in political science, but if that doesn't pan out I could fall back on Computer Science. Won't have a Comp Sci degree, but I have work experience, and most companies will hire just about any asshat who can work a computer to work in IT. There are lots of IT people who don't have a Comp Sci degree.
As for Political Science, you can do public administration, college level teaching, or go into a law program.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;36489624]I'm in political science.[/QUOTE]
hi5
we're scientists
Sometimes I want to quit my job, then I think about stuff like this.
[QUOTE=areolop;36486014]Just to let everyone know, even with the job market the way it is -- There are still jobs to be had. They may not be your dream job, but its a job.
If you are seriously looking for a good-paying job, and are good at math, contact the FAA about becoming an Air Traffic Controller. You can make up-to (and more then) 100k a year with mandatory retirement w/ benefits & pension at age 56. The FAA will hire people off the streets to become an ATC.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, with standards that low it's a literal miracle airplanes aren't raining from the sky then.
But how else will you get grisham to write a novel about you? get framed for murder and be on death row?
[QUOTE=Lankist;36487416][B]Maybe you can achieve your dream when they're all dead and you're on dialysis from your habitually heavy drinking and prescription painkiller abuse.[/B][/QUOTE]
So your saying I can become this? (I'm sorry)
[img]http://hothardware.com/newsimages/Item21547/small_MP3-Mirror.jpg[/img]
I don't see what's wrong :v:
On topic though my parents wanted me to become a lawyer but I never found the interest in it, I might end up going into networking though but have no idea if it's the right choice but computer related jobs seem to be the right choice I guess
Shit, my brother wants to be a lawyer, guess he's gonna have to work his ass off :v:
[QUOTE=Lankist;36488233]The best advice I could give, though, is [I]wait[/I] to go to law school. Don't buy into this "if you don't go now you never will" crap. If you stop and never end up going to law school, that's probably because you shouldn't have been going to law school.
If you want to explore the field, get a bachelor's in [I]anything[/I]. Preferably something with its own merits. Try to get some paralegal work and if/when you do, stick with it for a few years before you commit to law school.
If you find yourself mind-numbingly bored doing that, you simply do not belong in a legal profession.
If you're someone that can actually take interest in incredibly obscure minutia for completely irrelevant issues (I wasn't), then you might just make it in law.
Working paralegal before law is sort of like going to Community College before Uni. You get some experience to put on your resume, meet important people and build a network in the field (which is IMMENSELY important if you want to get anywhere as a lawyer,) and you don't put yourself in massive debt. And if it doesn't work out, you can look for work in whatever field you got your bachelor's in.
Probably the worst thing you can do is start your bachelor's/associate's by saying "I want to be a lawyer."
[Speaking as a layman right now. I never did this so don't take my word for it.][/QUOTE]
So if you're someone who can't take interest in incredibly obscure minutia for completely irrelevant issues, then how come you're a lawyer?
Or are you having regrets about your chosen line of work?
[QUOTE=areolop;36486014]Just to let everyone know, even with the job market the way it is -- There are still jobs to be had. They may not be your dream job, but its a job.
If you are seriously looking for a good-paying job, and are good at math, contact the FAA about becoming an Air Traffic Controller. You can make up-to (and more then) 100k a year with mandatory retirement w/ benefits & pension at age 56. The FAA will hire people off the streets to become an ATC.[/QUOTE]
they said that you could be anything you want
truth is, everyone has about 4 choices
Shit, shit, less stinky shit, more stinky shit
[QUOTE=Lankist;36488128]Law is where it is today because it's the go-to profession for people who don't know what they want to do with their lives. Sounds like engineering is starting to take a bite out of that pie.[/QUOTE]
Problem with engineering is if you're not willing sell your soul to the textbooks even for an undergrad degree, you gonna have a bad time.
do you enjoy your job as a lawyer lankist
This thread is making me seriously consider a career path change. Thank god I have time to flop around a bit.
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