CERN rumored to have found the Higgs Boson (again)
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I hope we do find the Higgs boson as it is most conventionally proposed to exist. Less questions, more being sure about shit.
Guys, 8hours until the Fermilab results.
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Monday, July 2nd
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CDF and D0 Higgs Results with the Full Tevatron Data Set
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[QUOTE=Dacheet;36586617]There's been a thread on SA for a few weeks saying they've found it, but are keeping it under wraps until a conference to announce it. Pretty cool if they really found it.
E: forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3491647[/QUOTE]
They're trying to. These are all rumors so far, but if they're really calling in the people these articles say they are then it's a fair bet it's true.
If Higgs fields do exist, will there be ways to fuck with them? Any kind of practical uses?
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;36586932]If Higgs fields do exist, will there be ways to fuck with them? Any kind of practical uses?[/QUOTE]
Nobody knows, but I really hope so, because that would be amazing. Heck, that's how everything in Mass Effect works. Just temporarily massively raising/lowering the mass of things.
[QUOTE=Disgruntled;36586932]If Higgs fields do exist, will there be ways to fuck with them?[/QUOTE]
You can't fuck with the Higgs field (as we know of) but every time you masturbate you do literally fuck it.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;36586967]Nobody knows, but I really hope so, because that would be amazing. Heck, that's how everything in Mass Effect works. Just temporarily massively raising/lowering the mass of things.[/QUOTE]
But that required Element Zero. Which doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=mac338;36586980]You can't fuck with the Higgs field (as we know of) but every time you masturbate you do literally fuck it.[/QUOTE]
Technically you never touch your junk, there is a fine barrier created by the electromagnetic interaction between the atoms in your hand and the atoms in your junk(s). ;D
[QUOTE=Bradyns;36587015]Technically you never touch your junk, there is a fine barrier created by the electromagnetic interaction between the atoms in your hand and the atoms in your junk(s). ;D[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]touch/təCH/
Verb:
Come so close to (an object) as to be or come into contact with it.[/QUOTE]
As long as the atoms interact, you are touching your junk. If you take away the interacting argument then you are literally nothing, as every atom in your body is separated by such a charge.
But have they found Waldo yet?
The theory of Waldo is ridiculous, most scientists believe the theory of Wilma sounds righter.
[url]http://vms-db-srv.fnal.gov/fmi/xsl/VMS_Site_2/000Return/video/r_livelogicindex.xsl?&-recid=634&-find=[/url]
6.5 hours for Fermilab results.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;36587367][URL]http://vms-db-srv.fnal.gov/fmi/xsl/VMS_Site_2/000Return/video/r_livelogicindex.xsl?&-recid=634&-find=[/URL]
6.5 hours for Fermilab results.[/QUOTE]
Announce the results with your avatar's catchphrase.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;36587015]Technically you never touch your junk, there is a fine barrier created by the electromagnetic interaction between the atoms in your hand and the atoms in your junk(s). ;D[/QUOTE]
Technically that's all that 'touch' is - electromagnetic repulsion between the electron clouds between atoms in your body and anything else.
There are no 'solid surfaces' in the universe. Everything winds up coming down to energy barriers, potential wells, wave functions - solidity is just this weird artifact that arises as a result of all of these things.
Good news everyone!
[QUOTE=areolop;36587409]Good news everyone![/QUOTE]
Doesn't work with your avatar.
[QUOTE=sltungle;36587408]Technically that's all that 'touch' is - electromagnetic repulsion between the electron clouds between atoms in your body and anything else.
There are no 'solid surfaces' in the universe. Everything winds up coming down to energy barriers, potential wells, wave functions - solidity is just this weird artifact that arises as a result of all of these things.[/QUOTE]
You can just reduce it to that, but then there is still such a state as a solid.
[quote]
sol·id /ˈsälid/
Adjective:
Firm and stable in shape; not liquid or fluid: "frozen solid".
Noun:
A substance or object that is solid rather than liquid or fluid.
Synonyms:
firm - hard - strong - sound - steady - substantial
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Like Carl Sagan said,
[quote=Carl Sagan]
The beauty of a living thing is not the atoms that go into it, but the way those atoms are put together.
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Resonance cascade?
[QUOTE=mac338;36587295]The theory of Waldo is ridiculous, most scientists believe the theory of Wilma sounds righter.[/QUOTE]
I personally reject both theories and put my faith in Wizard Whitebeard.
Tide goes in, tide goes out, Higgs boson can explain it in an even more detailed way.
(wasn't the Higgs Boson a key part in gravitational force?)
The "again" in the title seems a little mean. Because this time, they found it with a sigma higher.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;36587367][url]http://vms-db-srv.fnal.gov/fmi/xsl/VMS_Site_2/000Return/video/r_livelogicindex.xsl?&-recid=634&-find=[/url]
6.5 hours for Fermilab results.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't Fermilab and it's Tevatron shut down for good about a month or two ago?
all of this physics talk
all i know is if i am to fall off this fucking chair again i will hurt myself
But seriously, this is good, if this is the actual particle, definitely new research will be available for the Human race. Think, we're almost there to unlocking the biggest mystery of the Universe. Now, if our race on the little blue dot can do this, think of the possibilities in the future!
[QUOTE=Medevilae;36588866][URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2167188/God-particle-Scientists-Cern-expected-announce-Higgs-boson-particle-discovered-Wednesday.html"]CERN is 99.99% ceratin the Higgs boson particle has been found.[/URL][/QUOTE]
"Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider are expected to say they are 99.99 per cent certain it has been found"
Expected.
I somehow doubt the validity of both of the sources. Gizmodo and Daily Mail are both sensationalist tabloids.
[URL]http://vms-db-srv.fnal.gov/fmi/xsl/VMS_Site_2/000Return/video/r_livelogicindex.xsl?&-recid=634&-find=[/URL]
Stream of the results at 14:00 GMT (10:00 EDT, 9:00 CDT, ...)
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Better stream: [URL]http://www.livestream.com/fermilab[/URL]
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;36588844]Wasn't Fermilab and it's Tevatron shut down for good about a month or two ago?[/QUOTE]
They still have data to sift through from when it was active -- so much so that they could spend the next decade solely doing such just to find things.
Unlike CERN, which developed technology to pick significant events, Fermilab had no such process and all events were "significant".
[B]ALL THE DATA POINTS![/B]
Also, Fermilab presentation starts in 10minutes.
Links present above.
[url="http://i.qkme.me/3oqzll.jpg"]Me while watching the stream.[/url]
Right now he's explaining the methods in which they are trying to determine that if they see that path of decay that they have found the Higgs boson. Depending on the mass, the decay path will be different, and so they have different hypotheses as they don't actually know the proper mass, obviously being a currently hypothetical particle.
[QUOTE=Bean Shoot;36589959][url="http://i.qkme.me/3oqzll.jpg"]Me while watching the stream.[/url][/QUOTE]
[img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=380346&dateline=1294004117[/img] at the same time fapping so hard you're at two places at once.
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