[QUOTE=superdinoman;29627958]As I said[/QUOTE]
Cigarette packages now have pictures of rotting flesh on them, to say that the activity is being even remotely encouraged is nothing but utter stupidity.
I swear you just [i]want[/i] smokers to die off or something
Unfiltered erryday.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628014]Cigarette packages now have pictures of rotting flesh on them, to say that the activity is being even remotely encouraged is nothing but utter stupidity.
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Not all of them and that doesnt do shit. All they need is a warning label.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628014]
I swear you just [i]want[/i] smokers to die off or something[/QUOTE]
You're just a very angry individual.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628113]Not all of them and that doesnt do shit. All they need is a warning label.
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They DO have warning labels
Cancer cancer cancer you're going to die this picture will be what you look like if you smoke EVEN ONE so forth
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628113]You're just a very angry individual.[/QUOTE]
You militant anti-smokers are #1 on my facepunch shit list right now, above homophobes, racists, and people who can't figure out how polls work
Hm. since I'm used to live with the DANGER cigs cause on me I don't even care anymore to smoke "healthier".
[QUOTE=Van-man;29627164]Better idea: stop smoking[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with enjoying it?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628127]They DO have warning labels
Cancer cancer cancer you're going to die this picture will be what you look like if you smoke EVEN ONE so forth
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I said warning label, stop trying to start a retarded fight. I did not say a giant diseased lung.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628127]You militant anti-smokers are #1 on my facepunch shit list right now[/QUOTE]
Im anti smoking in the same sense that Im anti shooting myself in the foot. Im not going to do it to myself but I dont care if someone else does it to their body
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628153]
Im anti smoking in the same sense that Im anti shooting myself in the foot. Im not going to do it to myself but I dont care if someone else does it to their body[/QUOTE]
Yeah but you don't approve of making it safer for them so you're pretty terrible
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628113]Not all of them and that doesnt do shit. All they need is a warning label.
You're just a very angry individual.[/QUOTE]
Dude, I don't know how many countries have warning labels on ciggs, but MOST do. My country does, does it dissuade smoking? No, the effects are well known. Smoking is still done.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628159]Yeah but you don't approve of making it safer for them so you're pretty terrible[/QUOTE]
Make cigarettes that dont cause cancer, emphysema, heart disease, strokes, etc list goes on. Do that and Ill support it in the same way I support synthetic alcohol eliminating hangovers. Until then its just another filter than barely changes anything.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29628194]Dude, I don't know how many countries have warning labels on ciggs, but MOST do. My country does, does it dissuade smoking? No, the effects are well known. Smoking is still done.[/QUOTE]
And that is their choice.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;29627770]Hey, militant anti-smokers, fuck you. When I spend 6.50 on my smokes I pay the taxes to support your schools and playgrounds.[/QUOTE]
You get smokes for 6.50? You lucky ass, I pay 10.40 generally.
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[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628200]Make cigarettes that dont cause cancer, emphysema, heart disease, strokes, etc list goes on. Do that and Ill support it in the same way I support synthetic alcohol eliminating hangovers. Until then its just another filter than barely changes anything.
And that is their choice.[/QUOTE]
I honestly wish a company would come up that would make just tobacco ciggs. They'd be much cleaner and much nicer, and with hydroponic technology, I'm sure we could do it.
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[QUOTE=SwizzChees;29628146]Hm. since I'm used to live with the DANGER cigs cause on me I don't even care anymore to smoke "healthier".[/QUOTE]
Growing up with a smoker changes your view of it a lot I think, I'm sure it increases the chance if nothing traumatizing happens.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628159]Yeah but you don't approve of making it safer for them so you're pretty terrible[/QUOTE]
:v:
Wait wait wait wait. Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?!
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29628208]You get smokes for 6.50? You lucky ass, I pay 10.40 generally.
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I honestly wish a company would come up that would make just tobacco ciggs. They'd be much cleaner and much nicer, and with hydroponic technology, I'm sure we could do it.
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Growing up with a smoker changes your view of it a lot I think, I'm sure it increases the chance if nothing traumatizing happens.[/QUOTE]
It also led me to hate smoking after watching my Opa painfully die from his habit.
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628263]What?[/QUOTE]
Person A.Wants to stop people from smoking by keeping it dangerous
Person B.Wants it to keep going but just make it safer
Which person is right?
Neither, you're both actually right.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628200]Make cigarettes that dont cause cancer, emphysema, heart disease, strokes, etc list goes on. Do that and Ill support it in the same way I support synthetic alcohol eliminating hangovers. Until then its just another filter than barely changes anything.[/QUOTE]
So where exactly is your cutoff line for how much better something has to be before you'll allow it
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628275]So where exactly is your cutoff line for how much better something has to be before you'll allow it[/QUOTE]
It blocks diseases caused by the cig.
[IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/DSC00367.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://filesmelt.com/dl/DSC00369.jpg[/IMG]
The green one is in Norwegian, it basically says the same thing as the first.
Not including pictures of the backsides where you can see an open heart surgery and rotten teeth.
[QUOTE=Swilly;29628264]
Person A.Wants to stop people from smoking by keeping it dangerous
Person B.Wants it to keep going but just make it safer
Which person is right?
Neither, you're both actually right.[/QUOTE]
Except person B is showing compassion and progressive ideals while person A is advocating purposely keeping something dangerous in order to prevent a reduction in health problems caused by it
Excuse the quality, my phone is not a camera.
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My automerge!
This thread makes me want a smoke, and I don't smoke.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628275]So where exactly is your cutoff line for how much better something has to be before you'll allow it[/QUOTE]
I think you mean "support" not "allow" as I obviously have no authority over this matter because my field of study is psychology and evolutionary biology.
I dont have a cut off line. I say legalize every drug and let people weed themselves out. Youll have those who use the substances responsibly and those who do idiotic acts while on them. I just don't support implying that a drug is safer unless you actually make it safer.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628297]I think you mean "support" not "allow" as I obviously have no authority over this matter because my field of study is psychology and evolutionary biology.
I dont have a cut off line. I say legalize every drug and let people weed themselves out. Youll have those who use the substances responsibly and those who do idiotic acts while on them. I just don't support implying that a drug is safer unless you actually make it safer.[/QUOTE]
But is marginally safer technically not safer?
Nice unintentional weed pun by the way
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628283]Except person B is showing compassion and progressive ideals while person A is advocating purposely keeping something dangerous in order to prevent a reduction in health problems caused by it[/QUOTE]
Not really. Person B is not showing compassion because in the end, the person who is smoking WILL die a horrible death if they live their lives to the fullest and smoke enough.
[QUOTE=Swilly;29628312]Not really. Person B is not showing compassion because in the end, the person who is smoking WILL die a horrible death if they live their lives to the fullest and smoke enough.[/QUOTE]
Did you just say that all smokers will die a "horrible death"
the vast majority die normally albeit a bit sooner
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628308]But is marginally safer technically not safer?
Nice unintentional weed pun by the way[/QUOTE]
Technicalities rarely work. If how safe it is is pushed by made 2% then would that really BE safer? Or just be a guise of safer to put the minds of those who are worried about their future at ease.
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628319]Did you just say that all smokers will die a "horrible death"
the vast majority die normally albeit a bit sooner[/QUOTE]
:v:
[QUOTE=Swilly;29628321]Technicalities rarely work. If how safe it is is pushed by made 2% then would that really BE safer? Or just be a guise of safer to put the minds of those who are worried about their future at ease.[/QUOTE]
Well it's either safer or it's not
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628308]But is marginally safer technically not safer?[/QUOTE]
In terms of cigarettes not really. Even this nanofilter will let certain harmful particles through, nicotine alone is a toxin. You're still at a large risk for all the same diseases as regular cigarettes, sure you may not get cancer by 60, instead youll get it by 65. You still end up with cancer, emphysema, a stroke, a heart attack, or some other shit disease.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;29628308]
Nice unintentional weed pun by the way[/QUOTE]
:smith:
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628343]In terms of cigarettes not really. Even this nanofilter will let certain harmful particles through, nicotine alone is a toxin. You're still at a large risk for all the same diseases as regular cigarettes, sure you may not get cancer by 60, instead youll get it by 65. You still end up with cancer, emphysema, a stroke, a heart attack, or some other shit disease. [/QUOTE]
So it's the equivalent to reducing how many cigarettes you smoke, I don't see the problem. It's not like smokers will instantly start smoking more, they tend to have a certain amount they like to smoke on a set schedule.
[QUOTE=Ca5bah;29627770]Hey, militant anti-smokers, fuck you. When I spend 6.50 on my smokes I pay the taxes to support your schools and playgrounds.[/QUOTE]
thank you for helping out society via your nicotine addiction
[QUOTE=superdinoman;29628200]Make cigarettes that dont cause cancer, emphysema, heart disease, strokes, etc list goes on. Do that and Ill support it in the same way I support synthetic alcohol eliminating hangovers. Until then its just another filter than barely changes anything.
And that is their choice.[/QUOTE]
2-methyl-2-butanol is an alcohol analogue with no hangover. It lasts longer too. I can bet you don't support that though.
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