UKIP aims to replace Lib Dems as Britain's third party - Polidicks

[QUOTE=bravehat;28454752]No I think this is, the more votes they get, the more the main political parties will realise how much credibility they've lost in the eyes of the public, so much so in fact, that a party with policies as insane and ludicrous as the MRLP is actually still more credible than them.[/QUOTE] They won't think they are more credible than them, but it does show that people are losing faith in them. And as I said, I think it's a pretty irresponsible way to protest about the political parties. Just vote for another minor party. [editline]6th March 2011[/editline] And I think too many people voted Conservatives just because they'd had enough of Labour.

Exactly, it's fucking shitty bull dick loving cock slurping reactionary fucking politics, and no one actually gives enough of a fuck to vote enough for the small parties for it to make a blind bit of difference. I'll make this short and sweet. WE! ARE! FUCKED! And here's how, the BNP and UKIP are getting more votes, fucking worrying ain't it? Dunno if you know the circumstances around the Nazi rise to power but there are a few parallels in our situation to theirs: Animosity towards the jews - Here there are a lot of people who dislike Muslims Economic problems - Recession here Our situation may not be as dire as the Nazis but they're very similar, and as the german public saw times get worse they stopped voting for the main parties because they saw desperate times, so they went for desperate measures, and that's what I see happening here with these guys getting more votes.

Ok, don't start with the whole "it could be like the Nazis again" thing, because [i]that[/i] is a load of bullshit. As you said it's no where near as bad as it was in 1930s Germany. And if you ask the majority of people what they think of the BNP, they'll say they are bunch of racist Nazis, you really think people are going to start voting for them en mass? [editline]6th March 2011[/editline] And don't forget, the Nazis got a lot of support from the Middle and Upper classes because of the fear of Communism, and the BNP don't have this.

[QUOTE=bravehat;28453449] No joke these guys are the cats pj's :v:[/QUOTE] They sound like the Canadian Rhino Party. (Make the trans-canada highway one-way starting with semis and buses, repeal the law of gravity, end crime by abolishing all laws, store nuclear waste in the senate, things like that)

[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;28455265]Ok, don't start with the whole "it could be like the Nazis again" thing, because [i]that[/i] is a load of bullshit. As you said it's no where near as bad as it was in 1930s Germany. And if you ask the majority of people what they think of the BNP, they'll say they are bunch of racist Nazis, you really think people are going to start voting for them en mass? [editline]6th March 2011[/editline] And don't forget, the Nazis got a lot of support from the Middle and Upper classes because of the fear of Communism, and the BNP don't have this.[/QUOTE] You seem to have missed my point throughtout all of my posts. The UKIP don't have the same stigmas as the BNP, thus, wolves in sheeps clothing. People will vote for them, and they already are, thus 4th biggest party in the UK. [editline]6th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;28455357]They sound like the Canadian Rhino Party. (Make the trans-canada highway one-way starting with semis and buses, repeal the law of gravity, end crime by abolishing all laws, store nuclear waste in the senate, things like that)[/QUOTE] Got it in one man.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;28453433]On a slightly tangental note, I remember about the time of last year's election there was a UKIP poster at the side of the road that I go to school down. It was a picture of Winston Churchill and captioned with something like "Churchill would never allow us to join the EU" or something like that. It's funny because Churchill actually proposed a "United States of Europe", where the UK would be semi-involved, just like the system we have today.[/QUOTE] They are right. Churchill didn't see the UK as European apart from geographical location. States are different to what we have now, if we had states we could have a say in what happens rather than us pool money into it and get bitch slapped every week.

UKIP is a great party and they are not racist. Niether are they rich bnp in suits. Also Nigel Farage is fucking honest and not bound to the pitty political correctness.

[QUOTE=Coffee;28453561]Well it's a good thing UKIP won't be getting into power.[/QUOTE] And luckily it seems the third most powerful party in the UK doesn't have much effect even when its in power via a coalition. [editline]6th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28456676] Also Nigel Farage is fucking honest and not bound to the pitty political correctness.[/QUOTE] And on occasion he says what a lot of people are thinking. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY[/media]

[QUOTE=Jsm;28456738]And luckily it seems the third most powerful party in the UK doesn't have much effect even when its in power via a coalition. [editline]6th March 2011[/editline] And on occasional he says what a lot of people are thinking. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY[/media][/QUOTE] I fucking love that guy, i would totally vote for him. UKIP even want immigration, but i bet they can fucking stand for it in a proper way good and bad.

UKIP don't seem half as bad as some people are making out, they are no where near as radical as the BNP.

[QUOTE=MrChips;28455670]They are right. Churchill didn't see the UK as European apart from geographical location. States are different to what we have now, if we had states we could have a say in what happens rather than us pool money into it and get bitch slapped every week.[/QUOTE] Either way, using Churchill's opinion to support your argument is ludicrous. They man wanted to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable]invade the Soviet Union after WW2[/url] for christ's sake.

Despite his broken promises, I don't trust the two main parties. Unless the Greens start winning seats, my vote won't be going to Labour.

So People in the uk really think they are evil nazis. Man... i'm disappoint.

[QUOTE=O'10er;28447102]It's really only two parties that have a chance of getting a majority using only their mps, the lib dems are straggler ons, that's the role the UKIP want to fill[/QUOTE] Surely there should be more main parties with a chance in accordance with the differences of opinion that exist...

[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;28458653]So People in the uk really think they are evil nazis. Man... i'm disappoint.[/QUOTE] They're not Nazi's, they're just nationalist separatist racists.

I must say I did enjoy Nigel Farage's ripping of the van Rompuy last year... Edit: I see the video was posted above.

[QUOTE=JustExtreme;28459018]Surely there should be more main parties with a chance in accordance with the differences of opinion that exist...[/QUOTE] Well if you had PR then you'd have a better variety of political parties in parliament.

[QUOTE=MasterG;28456972]Fucking politicians, i don't trust any of them anymore.[/QUOTE] Your key failing here being that you trusted them in the first place.

[QUOTE=Coffee;28459980]Well if you had PR then you'd have a better variety of political parties in parliament.[/QUOTE] PR?

[QUOTE=Jsm;28456738] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY[/media][/QUOTE] That was awesome. :buddy:

To be fair, UKIP are nowhere near as bad as the BNP.

I really don't get why people are so worried about the UKIP, I've heard Farage talk in the European parliament and in my opinion what he says makes sense and he is good at saying it. You guys should be more worried about the BNP, that's a party that's obviously racist and extreme nationalist. Oh well I shouldn't get into this argument seeing how UK politics doesn't even matter to me, and I'm not that into your countrys politics anyway. But from what I know and if I lived there I'd probably vote for them. I really don't get how you can call a country/party isolationist for wanting to leave the EU, countries such as Norway and Switzerland have good relations with other European nations afaik. And you can still have trade agreements and cooperation on a smaller level between countries even if you are outside the EU. I personally don't like where todays EU is going, it's turning into a United States of Europe where sovereign nations lose their right to rule their own countries.

[QUOTE=Anton1k;28466952]I really don't get why people are so worried about the UKIP, I've heard Farage talk in the European parliament and in my opinion what he says makes sense and he is good at saying it. You guys should be more worried about the BNP, that's a party that's obviously racist and extreme nationalist. [/quote] We aren't worried about the BNP because there is no way in hell they are going to get into a postion of any sort of power any time soon. [QUOTE=Anton1k;28466952] I personally don't like where todays EU is going, it's turning into a United States of Europe where sovereign nations lose their right to rule their own countries.[/QUOTE] To be honest that is really the point of it. As for "lose their right to rule their own countries", all EU laws have to be accepted into the law of each country, they can be rejected. [editline]7th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JustExtreme;28465914]PR?[/QUOTE] I am guessing he is talking about [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation]proportional representation[/url]

[QUOTE=Billiam;28453280] So who are the Liberals suppose to vote for then? :v:[/QUOTE] the liberals are supposed to fuck off apparently so that's what i did i fucked off

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;28447346]Keep dreaming, UKIP - You're becoming a radical right-wing party, nobody should take you seriously if you think segregation and going against the EU is going to make everything 'better'.[/QUOTE] UKIP suggested segregation? What? I don't even think the BNP suggested segregation let alone UKIP

[QUOTE=Broseph_;28469326]UKIP suggested segregation? What? I don't even think the BNP suggested segregation let alone UKIP[/QUOTE] Sorry, wrong word - isolation.

[QUOTE=Coffee;28459980]Well if you had PR then you'd have a better variety of political parties in parliament.[/QUOTE] And you would have an even worse situation because then there would be the complete fucking wankery of 10 retarded parties all with differing opinions on every subject. And as such, fuck all would EVER be achieved. [editline]7th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Anton1k;28466952]I really don't get why people are so worried about the UKIP, I've heard Farage talk in the European parliament and in my opinion what he says makes sense and he is good at saying it. You guys should be more worried about the BNP, that's a party that's obviously racist and extreme nationalist. Oh well I shouldn't get into this argument seeing how UK politics doesn't even matter to me, and I'm not that into your countrys politics anyway. But from what I know and if I lived there I'd probably vote for them. I really don't get how you can call a country/party isolationist for wanting to leave the EU, countries such as Norway and Switzerland have good relations with other European nations afaik. And you can still have trade agreements and cooperation on a smaller level between countries even if you are outside the EU. I personally don't like where todays EU is going, it's turning into a United States of Europe where sovereign nations lose their right to rule their own countries.[/QUOTE] But no one votes for the obvious nazis, cause you know They're obvious and shit.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;28447165]Three right wing parties, two of which very far right. Sounds like a promising future.[/QUOTE] Very far right? Sorry but you've just made it very obvious you know nothing about politics. Also UKIP aren't as bad as everyone makes out. Infact in a lot of ways they are pretty good. Unfortunately they have some really stupid policies as well. [editline]7th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Randdalf;28466441]To be fair, UKIP are nowhere near as bad as the BNP.[/QUOTE] UKIP don't allow anyone who has dealt with or has been a part of the BNP to join their party. They are about preserving british culture, not race. [editline]7th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=dookster;28453355]I highly doubt they'll make it. Their policies are too far right for any sensible voter to take seriously.[/QUOTE] In the election AFAIK they got about 800,000 of the 20 million total votes. It was too distributed though so they got no seats.

[QUOTE=Jallen;28472196] They are about preserving british culture, not race.[/QUOTE] ah yes just like the bnp "it's not about race, it's about preserving the british heritage!"

[QUOTE=thisispain;28472256]ah yes just like the bnp "it's not about race, it's about preserving the british heritage!"[/QUOTE] The BNP are openly racist. UKIP are primarily about European independence more than anything else.