Tennessee Anti-Bullying Law Change Could Allow Students To Speak Out Against Gays For Religious Reas
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So does this mean they have to respect my religious doctrine of killing people for money in the name of Sithis?
[QUOTE=sirpopsalot_;34055057]only sometimes?[/QUOTE]
Watching people try to navigate a snowy hill in this state is made of lulz.
[QUOTE=General J;34054246]see last time I checked it was 2012, and we lived in the futuristic age of micro computers [B]and electric cars[/B]...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fort83;34055634]"Speak out against gays" meaning Harrass them, abuse them, condemn them to hell, call them abominations.
"religious reasons" meaning Christian bigotry.
Go fuck yourself[/QUOTE]
No its alright becuase the book about the magic wizard who lives in the sky says its ok.
[QUOTE=sirpopsalot_;34055057]only sometimes?[/QUOTE]
We have a lot of cool scenery and shit.
All you guys keep on saying Relgion x. Religion that
It's mostly Christianity dawg.
Good, this country's democracy was founded upon the first amendment.
[QUOTE=Gay Greek Guy;34056691]Good, this country's democracy was founded upon the first amendment.[/QUOTE]
It's for schools, freedom of speech doesn't really apply in school- mainly because you're forcing a bunch of people to be in the same place. Everywhere else, something offends you you can just walk away, not the case in school.
Really though, why the fuck can't people just accept that not everyone shares their beliefs and deal with it? I don't like guys screwing each other, but it's not my or anyone else's place to say whether or not people can do that. You're religious? Okay, let God deal with them. You're as human as they are and have no place judging.
[QUOTE=Altimus;34057293]It's for schools, freedom of speech doesn't really apply in school- mainly because you're forcing a bunch of people to be in the same place. Everywhere else, something offends you you can just walk away, not the case in school.
Really though, why the fuck can't people just accept that not everyone shares their beliefs and deal with it? I don't like guys screwing each other, but it's not my or anyone else's place to say whether or not people can do that. You're religious? Okay, let God deal with them. You're as human as they are and have no place judging.[/QUOTE]
agreed. If the put complete freedom of speech into schools, then I could say this is okay. Until then, it's bigotry.
Can homosexuals turn around and make fun of Christians for having an imaginary friend?
[QUOTE=Gay Greek Guy;34056691]Good, this country's democracy was founded upon the first amendment.[/QUOTE]
i don't think bullying is covered by the first amendment...
[QUOTE=GunFox;34057585]Can homosexuals turn around and make fun of Christians for having an imaginary friend?[/QUOTE]
no, because that is discriminating based on religion! but what if some gays started a religion, where they must make fun of homophobes?
Religion, making the world a bet-sorry worse place.
Say what you want about religion not being bad, but things like this pretty much objectively prove that it is.
I remember an exact same thread not too long ago involving the exact same concept.
[QUOTE=danielplazzy;34058838]Say what you want about religion not being bad, but things like this pretty much objectively prove that it is.[/QUOTE]
Really? Did "religion" become sentient and sign this bill into law?
[QUOTE=The Almighty;34056683]All you guys keep on saying Relgion x. Religion that
It's mostly Christianity dawg.[/QUOTE]Yeah because here in the west, you know, where facepunch's members are mostly stationed, there are mostly christians.
[QUOTE=Sanius;34058954]Really? Did "religion" become sentient and sign this bill into law?[/QUOTE]
Without religion, there wouldn't be any motivation for laws like this.
Religion-The disgrace and plague of humanity
[QUOTE=znk666;34061567]Religion-The disgrace and plague of humanity[/QUOTE]
It's more like a cancer than a plague. Infecting small parts of it while slowly spreading and starting to destroy itself.
religion isn't a disease
I hear all this "fuck religion" being thrown around in a very bandwagon-ish fashion.
The problem is not the religion, but the religion's viewpoint on society.
It's an easier goal to change an ideology than it is to abolish the entire foundation an ideology is based on.
How about instead of getting mad at Abrahamic religions for teaching that a talking snake persuaded a man to eat an apple and cast evil unto the land; we try to change the general consensus from "this is how it happened" to "this is how people thought it happened, and it worked, but now there's evidence against that"?
Same thing with homosexuality.
[I]"The prejudices and societal norms of Biblical times had an influence on the Bible's author, therefore causing the author to project his anti-gay views into his writing. These writings carried the norm to other Biblical authors, which in turn caused the anti-gay consensus in the Bible. Now that we understand that homosexuality is, in fact, a natural process (as seen through the various species taking on traits of homosexuality and gay relationships) and is, in fact, not a choice, we can safely say that what the Biblical authors wrote was simply bias on his part. For this reason, we can reject the assumption that homosexuality is against the will of our god."[/I]
In fact, this could be said for the entire scripture.
[I]"We realize that the Bible was written by imperfect and inconsistent people who were obviously affected by personal bias and the societal status-quo. We also know that the time in which individuals authored the Bible was lacking in extensive scientific knowledge, and therefore they created certain mythology such as the Garden of Eden story and the Tower of Babel story."[/I]
Of course, there are inconsistencies and logical loopholes, but there are a far greater amount of those in current Christianity. And, idealistically, to induce such religious change would lead toward progress in society, that which current Christianity and Islam have kept from happening on a broad enough scale in the United States.
[B][I]The point I'm trying to get across is that by being so anti-religion is something of a turn-off for people who want to call themselves atheists and people who are considering to become atheist. Politicians who are atheist are afraid to reveal they are atheist because of the stigma surrounding atheists in the United States; and for this reason politicians will pass any religious bill to prove to their colleagues that they are not atheist.
Above all, we shouldn't be anti-theism, but pro-atheism as a legitimate alternative to Christianity in the United States.[/I][/B]
Don't get me wrong, atheism is already a legitimate alternative, but most of the United States doesn't see it that way.
Being so headstrong in belief in anti-religion only adds to these problems significantly; as the stereotypical 'in-your-face-I'm-right-you're-wrong-and-you-are-an-idiot' image is generally accepted in society.
I know, I know, Christianity is exactly the same way. But, that's a moot point; mainly because Christianity is already the vastly major religion in the United States. [B][I]Combating confrontational elitist hatred with more confrontational elitist hatred solves absolutely nothing and, once again, only adds to the problem.[/I][/B]
[I][B][U]TL;DR: Don't hate religion; change religion for the better. Don't try to besmirch the image of religion; create a positive image of atheism. Don't advertise Christianity as being the dumber alternative; advertise atheism as being the more thoughtful, intellectual, and far less judgmental alternative.[/U][/B][/I]
"How many more gay people does God have to create before we ask ourselves whether or not God actually wants them around?" - Forgot who said this.
[QUOTE=GunFox;34057585]Can homosexuals turn around and make fun of Christians for having an imaginary friend?[/QUOTE]
We should.
So if someone is saying "HAHA YOU'RE GAY GET OUT OF HERE FAG" and a teacher comes out of nowhere and the kid says he just wants to make fun of the gay kid, then he gets in trouble?
But if a kid says "HAHA YOU'RE GAY GET OUT OF HERE FAG" and tells the teacher it's because of religious purposes that he's saying something like that, then he doesn't get in trouble?
wat
[QUOTE=Region;34073621]So if someone is saying "HAHA YOU'RE GAY GET OUT OF HERE FAG" and a teacher comes out of nowhere and the kid says he just wants to make fun of the gay kid, then he gets in trouble?
But if a kid says "HAHA YOU'RE GAY GET OUT OF HERE FAG" and tells the teacher it's because of religious purposes that he's saying something like that, then he doesn't get in trouble?
wat[/QUOTE]
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