Australian Internet providers must hand over customer details, court rules. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=.Lain;47474775]ISPs already do this in fair game in the UK. three time warning then a fine[/QUOTE] Source ? Last time I checked the most they'll do is send you letters then give up, it's up to the rights holder to take action.

Australia should get it's shit together, internet sucks, videogames banned or overpriced, everything outside trying to kill you, left-hand driving, and now this.

[QUOTE=Chryseus;47474382]I'd let them take me to court, IP address isn't sufficient evidence to obtain a conviction. Also I dunno what the law is in your country but if you're acquitted in the UK you don't have to pay fees, you can even claim money for travel costs and such.[/QUOTE] It'll never go to court. In many places, court precedent has not been kind to IP evidence and mass lawsuits. It's all about bullying and intimidating people into paying up. They don't have the money to actually carry the case through to trial.

[QUOTE=Zeb Brown;47474430]Using a VPN gets you more movies/series.[/QUOTE] Not going to lie I actually ssh tunnel to USA to browse facepunch from uni

[QUOTE=Antdawg;47474110]You know, there's a very simple solution to this. Just don't pirate shit. Then you won't have to worry about things like warnings, a court summons, speculative invoicing or ISPs giving your personal details to rights holders. None of that's happened to me or most other people, because not pirating is the sensible thing to do. What excuses are there? If it's not available in Australia, it's not the end of the world because your life won't depend on it, if it's 'too expensive' keep in mind that you can be a lowly shelf packer at a supermarket and still get paid $20 per hour. You have no excuse to pirate stuff.[/QUOTE] Apart from people not having access to content in reasonable time frames, there's another tremendous, fundamental, and extensively documented flaw with this line of thinking. Companies will deliberately shotgun out fraudulent claims for "socially unacceptable" content. It's basically blackmail. Pay us a fee, or we will say you downloaded ____. It has happened several times already. Britain had a company doing it with gay porn (that they didn't even have the rights too). You are delusional if you do not think this will happen again.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;47473988]As far as I'm aware, they already have handed over the details. Telstra, along with Optus and TPG chose not to contest the matter, while the other listed ISPs did. [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] ... Where does it say that 4,000 people are going to receive court summons?[/QUOTE] Telstra aren't included in it, they went after iinet as they were the main defender of people's rights. Telstra hasn't heard anything about being contacted.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;47472895]telstra won't. they're gonna say 'make us' and since they basically own all the internet cables in australia nobody can force them to do much of anything they don't want to.[/QUOTE] Is there a weird Australian law that says if you own over x percentage of cables you can't be charged with contempt of court? It's a bs ruling but they can't just go and ignore a judge

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47479797]Is there a weird Australian law that says if you own over x percentage of cables you can't be charged with contempt of court? It's a bs ruling but they can't just go and ignore a judge[/QUOTE] in the US and probably most places, ISPs are protected under safe-harbor clause, as long as they reply to takedown notices and work to shut down file sharing services, idk how it is in austrailia, but the film company wouldn't have had grounds to sue in the US, and its been tested in court here too, where judges have refused to hand over IP addresses to trolls because they cannot sue the ISP unless they prove that they were deliberatly encouraging piracy (which they will never be able to)

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47479797]Is there a weird Australian law that says if you own over x percentage of cables you can't be charged with contempt of court? It's a bs ruling but they can't just go and ignore a judge[/QUOTE] they're not exempt to anything no but they're a juggernaut of a company. what would a judge do if they just didn't comply? you take down telstra you take internet away from an entire country. i'm sure it's far more complicated but at the end of the day, they have all the leverage.