• New Mexico Bill Seeks to Protect Anti-Science Education
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I think he's playing the Devil's Advocate
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27965919]He's also saying that schools should teach the most popular "facts".[/QUOTE] fact is what is popular
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27965901]No, moron, the country is run by representatives of the people. In this case, the education system is run by representatives of the people, who are experts in their field. Should the Defense Department be run by the people, or experts (generals)? Do you want the people to vote on military operations? Uh, they're telling schools what your child can learn in public schools. You can teach your child whatever the fuck you want after school. Again, this is only about what they're taught in public schools. You can raise them however you like. That's all fine and dandy, but I sure hope [b]science classes[/b] are run on science, not on ideology. You know who else ran classes on ideology instead of facts? Hitler. Are you a Nazi? Uh, social Darwinism isn't scientific. It was put forth by racists in the pursuit of a racist [b]ideology[/b] and discredited by [b]science[/b]. [highlight]Congratulations, in one post you've managed to demonstrate that you're clinically retarded and have Nazi leanings.[/highlight][/QUOTE] lol
[QUOTE=Habsburg;27965937]I think he's playing the Devil's Advocate[/QUOTE] There's a fine line between playing Devil's Advocate and trolling, and if he's not genuinely retarded, he's trolling.
[QUOTE=thisispain;27965904]what yawmwen is trying to say is that people all have different interpretations about everything, from science to god. i kinda have to say i agree with him, the keyword is compromise or you'll never accomplish anything[/QUOTE] should we compromise with the racists who think that blacks should get a lower standard of education should we compromise with the scientologists who think psychology isn't a valid science should we compromise with the christian fundamentalists who think gays should be hanged
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27965952]There's a fine line between playing Devil's Advocate and trolling, and if he's not genuinely retarded, he's trolling.[/QUOTE] It can be all three.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27965936]I don't give a shit how your government works, schools teach FACTS and nothing else fuck your ideology when it comes to education[/QUOTE] then i shouldnt be forced to send my child to school but i am so basically for 6 or more hours a day the state is forcibly stealing my child and raising them for me
[QUOTE=thisispain;27965938]fact is what is popular[/QUOTE] No [editline]9th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;27965964]then i shouldnt be forced to send my child to school but i am so basically for 6 or more hours a day the state is forcibly stealing my child and raising them for me[/QUOTE] You can homeschool them if you want
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27965958]should we compromise with the racists who think that blacks should get a lower standard of education should we compromise with the scientologists who think psychology isn't a valid science should we compromise with the christian fundamentalists who think gays should be hanged[/QUOTE] no that would be silly
[QUOTE=Habsburg;27965963]It can be all three.[/QUOTE] Give blacks a middling standard of education (oh wait, we already do that)? Call psychology half-valid? Hang half the gays?
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27965952]There's a fine line between playing Devil's Advocate and trolling, and if he's not genuinely retarded, he's trolling.[/QUOTE] lol says the numbskull who thinks states should be our parents
[QUOTE=thisispain;27965973]no that would be silly[/QUOTE] So why should we compromise with the morons who want to teach religion in science class?
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27965965] You can homeschool them if you want[/QUOTE] only if im given a curriculum and monitored by a licensed teacher [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Prismatex;27965983]So why should we compromise with the morons who want to teach religion in science class?[/QUOTE] because i have a say in how my child is raised
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27965965]No[/QUOTE] yes would you really believe that evolution was true if you weren't told by a majority of people that it was so ultimately science is attempting to find what is factual by crossing out and fitting together what fits the most if you said that evolution is the end all and 100% factual then you'd find scientists themselves would disagree with you because that would defeat the point of science
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27965979]lol says the numbskull who thinks states should be our parents[/QUOTE] Get this through your stupid head: The state controls the public school system. If you don't like it, vote for a school board member more sympathetic to your fucktarded beliefs, move to a private school that cottons to your idiocy, or just teach your retarded kids whatever the fuck bullshit you want to teach them.
do i need to draw you a fucking flow chart would a diagram help you comprehend simple facts or did you get dropped on your head as a child
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27965985]only if im given a curriculum and monitored by a licensed teacher [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] because i have a say in how my child is raised[/QUOTE] Nobody's forcing you to send your kid to public school. Don't like it, homeschool or private.
stop talking like childeren
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27965992]Get this through your stupid head: The state controls the public school system. If you don't like it, vote for a school board member more sympathetic to your fucktarded beliefs, move to a private school that cottons to your idiocy, or just teach your retarded kids whatever the fuck bullshit you want to teach them.[/QUOTE] ok ok ok so its wrong to vote for school board members who teach what i want them to teach so i have to vote for a school board member to teach what i want them to teach lol [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Prismatex;27966002]Nobody's forcing you to send your kid to public school. Don't like it, homeschool or private.[/QUOTE] private costs money i already addressed homeschool [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;27966006]stop talking like childeren[/QUOTE] il talk like a childeren whenever i want you cant oppress me
either way childeren are smart enough to know what is true and what isn't true it doesn't hurt to expose them to information when it's done properly like a school is supposed to do if you are trying to teach science and the kids end up thinking the earth is 6,000 years old, the problem isn't the ideology, the problem is our kids are dumb enough to believe it
[QUOTE=thisispain;27965990]yes would you really believe that evolution was true if you weren't told by a majority of people that it was so ultimately science is attempting to find what is factual by crossing out and fitting together what fits the most if you said that evolution is the end all and 100% factual then you'd find scientists themselves would disagree with you because that would defeat the point of science[/QUOTE] You're twisting my words Does science always produce the best [i]current[/i] information y/n if y - it is what should be taught to children if n - you are dumb
[QUOTE=thisispain;27966028]either way childeren are smart enough to know what is true and what isn't true it doesn't hurt to expose them to information when it's done properly like a school is supposed to do if you are trying to teach science and the kids end up thinking the earth is 6,000 years old, the problem isn't the ideology, the problem is our kids are dumb enough to believe it[/QUOTE] This bill allows teachers to say that things like evolution are "controversial", sowing seeds of doubt in students' minds. It's much more insidious than blind creationism.
[QUOTE=thisispain;27966028] if you are trying to teach science and the kids end up thinking the earth is 6,000 years old, the problem isn't the ideology, the problem is our kids are dumb enough to believe it[/QUOTE] the problem is that so many retards don't want the kids to be taught science or they want it taught on the same level as creationism and that's wrong
i don't give a fuck about this bill i'm just saying the biggest problem is that our childeren don't question anything about anything ever
[QUOTE=thisispain;27966112]i don't give a fuck about this bill i'm just saying the biggest problem is that our childeren don't question anything about anything ever[/QUOTE] because they aren't taught to because their parents demand that they be completely obedient and never question anything because it challenges their authority as a parent, an authority that they really don't have because they didn't earn it
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;27901354]Oh gods, that bumper sticker...I don't know what to say.[/QUOTE] To me it seems like they're making fun of themselves. But they're not. Oh man.. it's just so.. [b]stupid[/b]
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27966145]because they aren't taught to because their parents demand that they be completely obedient and never question anything because it challenges their authority as a parent, an authority that they really don't have because they didn't earn it[/QUOTE] exactly throw the whole education plan in the bucket, start again, teach kids to challenge and question things then you'll see it won't matter whether you teach creationism or not because the kids will never buy it
[QUOTE=thisispain;27966175]exactly throw the whole education plan in the bucket, start again, teach kids to challenge and question things then you'll see it won't matter whether you teach creationism or not because the kids will never buy it[/QUOTE] no parents will agree to that guess you will need to [i]compromise[/i] say, know what would be a good compromise? teach science
[QUOTE=Zeke129;27966201]no parents will agree to that guess you will need to [i]compromise[/i] say, know what would be a good compromise? teach science[/QUOTE] hah you caught me yeah i guess i would make a pretty good parent though *pounds chest with a smug expression* but i still think kids need to know about how stupid and wrong things are and how you need to question them
[QUOTE=thisispain;27966212]hah you caught me yeah i guess i would make a pretty good parent though *pounds chest with a smug expression* but i still think kids need to know about how stupid and wrong things are and how you need to question them[/QUOTE] what we should have is a "stupid things lots of people believe class", and put creationism and stuff in there, but tell the creationists that it's actually called "fact class"
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