• RUMOR: Star Wars Episode 7 to be named ''Order of the Jedi'' & more
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYgG9MhV5Q0[/media]
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;44711149]My fucking sides Somebody needs to make this[/QUOTE] I better be in the credits or I'll sue first, George Lucas it later
wouldn't "the jedi's order" sound better?
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;44716245]wouldn't "the jedi's order" sound better?[/QUOTE] But they already did that in Episode 2. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/AuZWRS0.jpg?1[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Joazzz;44711963]almost happened in Republic Commando one more reason why that game rules[/QUOTE] That makes me wonder if Republic Commando is non-canon as well. I hope it's clarified exactly which EU material is non-canon. Completely wiping the slate clean seems a bit extreme, don't you think?
can we get real lightsaber fights instead of acrobatic shows pls also preferably no oversaturation of said fights
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;44716844]That makes me wonder if Republic Commando is non-canon as well. I hope it's clarified exactly which EU material is non-canon. Completely wiping the slate clean seems a bit extreme, don't you think?[/QUOTE] Delta Team was in Clone Wars, so they're canon. Not sure about the events of the game. Anyone working on new stuff under the Star Wars Licence is allowed to use anything that was in the EU. So the EU content isn't completely gone, it is in purgatory.
honestly if they made it about Kyle Katarn my life would be complete
[QUOTE=DeEz;44717267]can we get real lightsaber fights instead of acrobatic shows pls also preferably no oversaturation of said fights[/QUOTE] when people say that the prequel fights were better i always think of that moment in episode 6 where Luke just fuckin kicks Darth Vader down some stairs and he goes rolling down them like an idiot with his cape flying over his head and it's inexplicably really intense to watch. and then in the prequels you've got dudes doing triple front flips over lava and robots are doing crazy shit in the background and all you can hear is crickets chirping
the Yoda and Dooku fight is a guilty pleasure if I'm totally honest
Yoda should've never had a light saber tbh
[quote] *Princess Leia is now "Queen Regent of the Republic". *Han Solo is "High Commander of the Republic". [/quote] What the fuck, and what the fuck.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;44717554]Yoda should've never had a light saber tbh[/QUOTE] honestly I find that really debatable and I never really heard it until Plinkett said it like yeah the Jedi as a whole was really stupidly lightsaber driven in the prequels but they're still "knights" I don't get why he wouldn't have a weapon. There's a middle ground between doing nothing but flashy sword fights and not having a sword at all. I mean Obi-wan used the lightsaber in OT and no one questions that he was a good representation of what Jedi should be.
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44711909]Give clone commandos lightsabers. Jedi are now obsolete, write them out please.[/QUOTE] Star Wars wouldn't be Star Wars without the Jedi. Heck, this film is rumoured to be called "Order of the Jedi". I imagine that after Palpatine and Vader were out of the picture the Empire lost a lot of strength and the Jedi gained foothold in the galaxy once again. [editline]4th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Venezuelan;44717599]honestly I find that really debatable and I never really heard it until Plinkett said it like yeah the Jedi as a whole was really stupidly lightsaber driven in the prequels but they're still "knights" I don't get why he wouldn't have a weapon. There's a middle ground between doing nothing but flashy sword fights and not having a sword at all. I mean Obi-wan used the lightsaber in OT and no one questions that he was a good representation of what Jedi should be.[/QUOTE] In the original trilogy Yoda demonstrated the sheer power of the Force and spent a long time preaching its importance. He's about the size of my cat yet he could still lift the ship from the swamp using it. Giving him a tiny green lightsaber and making him flip around like everyone else really defeated what he represents and the whole point of his character.
[QUOTE=Cone;44717524]when people say that the prequel fights were better i always think of that moment in episode 6 where Luke just fuckin kicks Darth Vader down some stairs and he goes rolling down them like an idiot with his cape flying over his head and it's inexplicably really intense to watch. and then in the prequels you've got dudes doing triple front flips over lava and robots are doing crazy shit in the background and all you can hear is crickets chirping[/QUOTE] I really enjoy that entire fight, especially the 3:10 part from this video [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFYoZ7H67A[/media] There's no exaggerated choreography or acrobatics, Luke's just madly swinging his saber around [editline]4th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Venezuelan;44717599]honestly I find that really debatable and I never really heard it until Plinkett said it like yeah the Jedi as a whole was really stupidly lightsaber driven in the prequels but they're still "knights" I don't get why he wouldn't have a weapon. There's a middle ground between doing nothing but flashy sword fights and not having a sword at all. I mean Obi-wan used the lightsaber in OT and no one questions that he was a good representation of what Jedi should be.[/QUOTE] Lightsabers are pretty much toys to a really strong Force-user, that's why I think it was stupid to give both Palpatine and Yoda a lightsaber
According to some interviews I watched for the OT, Lucas had the fights become more active in 5 and 6 (compared to 4) to show Luke's progress in training. In ANH, Vader and Obi-Wan fought 2 handed the whole times, in 5 and 6 they switched between 1 handed and 2 handed. It was a stylistic choice. I'll have to find the video.
[QUOTE=The Maestro;44709032]This doesn't work for me. Imo Han and Leia should no longer be a couple and Han should just be living out his days as a retired smuggler.[/QUOTE] Sounds like one of those things where he has this title that he doesn't want or care about but it pretty much just being forced into it and would rather go back to smuggling.
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44711909]Give clone commandos lightsabers. Jedi are now obsolete, write them out please.[/QUOTE] Right, this would definitely make the Jedi obsolete. Because the Jedi [I]totally[/I] aren't one of the most important anchors that makes Star Wars what it is.
I think it is in this video. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIefj6dOhnM[/media]
[QUOTE=Tuskin;44719677]According to some interviews I watched for the OT, Lucas had the fights become more active in 5 and 6 (compared to 4) to show Luke's progress in training. In ANH, Vader and Obi-Wan fought 2 handed the whole times, in 5 and 6 they switched between 1 handed and 2 handed. It was a stylistic choice. I'll have to find the video.[/QUOTE] I think it's more that as the more action sequences they did, the better they got at choreography. It's especially noticable in the Sarlaac pit fight where there's a lot of things going on. And then they went overboard in the prequel with the choreography.
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44711909]Give clone commandos lightsabers. Jedi are now obsolete, write them out please.[/QUOTE] lol why do people think the Jedi aren't important in Star Wars? I really want to know where they're getting that from. [editline]4th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=DeEz;44719646]Lightsabers are pretty much toys to a really strong Force-user, that's why I think it was stupid to give both Palpatine and Yoda a lightsaber[/QUOTE] I didn't know Harry Plinkett had a facepunch account.
No press release yet, so I don't think any of this was true
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;44719107]Star Wars wouldn't be Star Wars without the Jedi. Heck, this film is rumoured to be called "Order of the Jedi". I imagine that after Palpatine and Vader were out of the picture the Empire lost a lot of strength and the Jedi gained foothold in the galaxy once again. [editline]4th May 2014[/editline] In the original trilogy Yoda demonstrated the sheer power of the Force and spent a long time preaching its importance. He's about the size of my cat yet he could still lift the ship from the swamp using it. Giving him a tiny green lightsaber and making him flip around like everyone else really defeated what he represents and the whole point of his character.[/QUOTE] idk I thought it was pretty clear the only reason he was able to move like that is hella force ability. And they prefaced the fight with a force showdown and the two of them deciding they were evenly matched, so it's not like he went straight for the lightsaber
[QUOTE=Tuskin;44721072]No press release yet, so I don't think any of this was true[/QUOTE] It's 1:17PM for me and i'm in the U.S. soooo......it's probably gonna be later into the day until an announcement happens
[QUOTE=Delta616;44708733]Even if the clone trooper life span is that long I highly doubt Delta squad is alive or active 60+ years after the events of Imperial Commando 501st.[/QUOTE] Sev obviously got frozen in Carbonite when he went MIA at the end of Republic Commando, and gets unfrozen during the film.
[QUOTE] *A press release unveiling other major plot details is scheduled for May 4th. [/QUOTE] Oh cool, I can't wait to find out what the film is about before I watch the film.
[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;44719107]Star Wars wouldn't be Star Wars without the Jedi. Heck, this film is rumoured to be called "Order of the Jedi". I imagine that after Palpatine and Vader were out of the picture the Empire lost a lot of strength and the Jedi gained foothold in the galaxy once again. [editline]4th May 2014[/editline] In the original trilogy Yoda demonstrated the sheer power of the Force and spent a long time preaching its importance. He's about the size of my cat yet he could still lift the ship from the swamp using it. Giving him a tiny green lightsaber and making him flip around like everyone else really defeated what he represents and the whole point of his character.[/QUOTE] I see a few explanations for why Yoda's fighting in the prequels as he does. 1) his fight against Dooku was personal and against his own student 2) Yoda's not really that wise at this point in his life. He's 800 or so, but he's not really all that smart right now. 3) the fight against palapatine was evenly matched in terms of force power, they kind of figure this out when neither of them can really make any headway. and lastly and probably most importantly George Lucas wanted the fights to look like this as much as possible in the original sequels but wasn't in control of them enough and didn't have the ability to create those effects. I actually have no problem with much of the over exaggerated choreography of the prequels. While certainly, they have some problems with the over exaggerations of it(see the Darth Maul fight). If you think about the powers a jedi has, predictive abilities to see the future moments in advance on a subconscious level, it explains why the fights start getting ridiculous a little bit. The more force sensitive, powerful you are, the more impossible it would be for a slow pace fight to ever injure you. In response, both fighters would have to be going as fast as they can to earn that edge.
literally excited for the first non-Lucas Star Wars movie. Also don't include those windows-movie maker transitions please. It's not a homage and looks stupid.
*Princess Leia is now "Queen Regent of the Republic". *Han Solo is "High Commander of the Republic". These two rumors don't sound right. I thought the idea behind the New Republic was the power would go back to the senate instead of one person. Queen Regent sounds awfully dominant. Why can't she be an Alderaan ambassador? Oh wait, it got destroyed... New Alderaan ambassador? And Solo High Commander? That goes against his whole character. I'm sure it's just an excuse for Ford to play grumpy old military leader. I hope these rumors stay rumors and not a real thing. It reminds me how JJ hypercharged his characters in his Star Trek (Sulu's sword fighting, Uhura's language knowledge...) only this time it's about the amount of power they hold. I also see a discussion about the lightsaber fights. Over the weekend I played both The Force Unleashed games so I'm open to a more Force-injected fighting. Just less dance moves in the choreography, please. Also it's time some evil Force user, Sith or whoever, fucked things up. Refer to the sequence at 52:50. [video=youtube;XTmIwOLfUlM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTmIwOLfUlM[/video]
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44721308]idk I thought it was pretty clear the only reason he was able to move like that is hella force ability. And they prefaced the fight with a force showdown and the two of them deciding they were evenly matched, so it's not like he went straight for the lightsaber[/QUOTE] Eh, I still think it ruined Yoda to take him out of his element and make him into this crazy little fighter dude. See below, I guess. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;44722173]I see a few explanations for why Yoda's fighting in the prequels as he does. 1) his fight against Dooku was personal and against his own student 2) Yoda's not really that wise at this point in his life. He's 800 or so, but he's not really all that smart right now. 3) the fight against palapatine was evenly matched in terms of force power, they kind of figure this out when neither of them can really make any headway. and lastly and probably most importantly George Lucas wanted the fights to look like this as much as possible in the original sequels but wasn't in control of them enough and didn't have the ability to create those effects. I actually have no problem with much of the over exaggerated choreography of the prequels. While certainly, they have some problems with the over exaggerations of it(see the Darth Maul fight). If you think about the powers a jedi has, predictive abilities to see the future moments in advance on a subconscious level, it explains why the fights start getting ridiculous a little bit. The more force sensitive, powerful you are, the more impossible it would be for a slow pace fight to ever injure you. In response, both fighters would have to be going as fast as they can to earn that edge.[/QUOTE] I'm not really concerned about explanations as to why Yoda can do crazy shit. It's the fact that he actually does it that bothers me. Also, I'd say he's still wise in the prequel canon although he wasn't able to see through the most paper-thin Sith plot. That's probably down to poor writing, I doubt he lived 800 years of his life but then got wise over the next 30. If I recall correctly, lightsabers were originally supposed to have the weight of real swords. I imagine Lucas wanted something flashier for the prequels and probably said some shit like "But what if they're actually [I]light[/I]sabers, not [I]heavy[/I]sabers!" Again, I'm not concerned with explanations but his official one is that in the OT the Jedi were old and Luke was barely trained so the fights are slower. He's clearly made that up in a quick attempt at consistency. The logic behind crazy powers that make you do sword-ballet wasn't the point of the original fights. They were there to demonstrate conflict, moreso than X wants to kill Y so they fight. That's why there's usually more dialogue than actual fighting. Long story short, the prequel fights are basically waving CGI and glowsticks in the our faces in a bid to impress us. Giving Yoda a little green lightsaber and having him jump around doing mad shit isn't there to develop his character or advance the plot, it's just Lucas' attempt to make us go "oooh" and "aaah" because a pop culture icon is flying around the screen for the first time despite any inconsistencies this may cause.
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