Article 50 to be triggered March 29th - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jzzb;51986667]Boy, impotent hatred of national history for the sake of political correctness is pathetic[/QUOTE] Lets play a game round 1: Who is this quote from "I hate ____s. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion" A) Winston Churchill B) Heinrich Himmler round 2: In 1943 which nation/empire cut food supplies to _______ letting 3 million people starve to death while blocking other nations attempt to provide aid? A) Soviet Union B) British Empire [sp]Indians and India - sure a war was on but why would you block aid and Churchill's biases and racism would have influenced his decisions and policy regarding India. This is fairly recent, if you go further back millions died in India from various famines and starvations, british policy was to deny any help/leniency in collecting crops/taxes since "those work shy indians might get lazy if we let them have more than 1000 calories per day". People starved faster in places served by rail than without - implication being that the rails helped collect food from the area worsening the famines.[/sp] How does this differ from the Holodomir? Millions of people starved to death because a government decide crops (taxes) are more valuable than the lives of a people considered by the establishment to be inferior. Yup just the typical PC police bla bla bla

i can't believe it's 2017 and you're still an sjw if you think imperialism kinda blows wild

Well time for me to order everything I can from Japan. When the results first came in, investors dumped the pound and moved onto the yen and made it jump up in value, making my bishoujo figures cost more

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;51986684]The best that can come from being an independant state is we end up like Switzerland, but with the morons in charge I highly doubt we'll get anywhere near that, we'll probably just end up as either the 51st state, Russia's bitch or just a shit Ogliarchy. Edit: these are extremes, I'm just embelishing how stupid this is.[/QUOTE] The Switzerland comparison becomes a problem when you look at the time-scale it took for the Swiss to get to their current arrangement with the EU through bilateral agreements, particularly for trade. I suppose if we want to be optimistic, there's a model to go for, but I doubt the competency of the government. [url]https://www.eda.admin.ch/dam/dea/en/documents/folien/Folien-Abkommen_en.pdf[/url] If you look at the above source, you'll it's taken several decades for mutual benefits to be agreed upon. It's going to take a heck of a lot of work to replicate that in the time scale we have.

[QUOTE=NassimO PotatO;51986755][IMG]http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/391392euwankas.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] That cunt's smile sickens me.

[QUOTE=DOCTOR LIGHT;51986624]Ah yes, the empire of such greatness. The empire that enslaved, raped, broke, beat, addicted, poisoned, burned, and crushed its way across the Orient. The empire that slaughtered the Indias. The empire that, at least in part, caused the current state of Africa. The empire that is rooted in the days of the Crusades. The empire based entirely on "Fuck those guys over the river, right". The empire that died a slow, languid, and pathetic death because of its growing futility and complacency. The empire that bled itself to death on its own sword by fighting countless pointless wars. The empire that ground a hundred million young men to death in its cogs all for the name of some foreign soil that nobody cared about in the first place. The empire that crushed a continent for its tea. The empire that enslaved and battered and broke proud native cultures for their cotton. The empire that bled its own underclass to death, left them stricken with rickets and plague and consumption and left them to choke under a blanket of smog, just so the top percentile of society might wear machine-made clothes. The empire that built the [B]absolute entirety of its fame[/B] off the [B]subjugation and crushing[/B] of other human beings. And for what? For its home citizens? No. Just 1% of them. There was no beauty in the British Empire. Don't convince yourself there was. There's more beauty in the fucking Galactic Empire.[/QUOTE] The British Empire was the first state to outlaw slavery. By no means was the British Empire great, but it was hardly the worst.

[QUOTE=David29;51987250]The British Empire was the first state to outlaw slavery. By no means was the British Empire great, but it was hardly the worst.[/QUOTE] They also benefited hugely from it and caused a large amount of it. And it's not like they stopped treating native people like slaves after that...

[QUOTE=David29;51987250]The British Empire was the first state to outlaw slavery. By no means was the British Empire great, but it was hardly the worst.[/QUOTE] you don't have to be making a comparison to other empires when you say the british empire was bad, we're not playing top trumps, we're talking about the suffering of human beings

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51987269]They also benefited hugely from it and caused a large amount of it. And it's not like they stopped treating native people like slaves after that...[/QUOTE] On the contrary see below: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism[/URL] [QUOTE] [B]British Empire[/B] In 1783, an anti-slavery movement began among the British public to end slavery throughout the British Empire. In 1785, the English poet William Cowper wrote: We have no slaves at home – Then why abroad? Slaves cannot breathe in England; if their lungs receive our air, that moment they are free. They touch our country, and their shackles fall. That's noble, and bespeaks a nation proud. And jealous of the blessing. Spread it then, And let it circulate through every vein.[22] After the formation of the Committee for the Abolition of the Slave Trade in 1787, William Wilberforce led the cause of abolition through the parliamentary campaign. Thomas Clarkson became the group's most prominent researcher, gathering vast amounts of data on the trade. One aspect of abolitionism during this period was the effective use of images such as the famous Josiah Wedgwood "Am I Not A Man And A Brother?" anti-slavery medallion of 1787, which Clarkson described as "promoting the cause of justice, humanity and freedom".[23][24] [B]The Slave Trade Act was passed by the British Parliament on 25 March 1807, making the slave trade illegal throughout the British Empire.[25] Britain used its influence to coerce other countries to agree to treaties to end their slave trade and allow the Royal Navy to seize their slave ships.[26][27][/B] In the 1820s, the abolitionist movement revived to campaign against the institution of slavery itself. In 1823 the first Anti-Slavery Society was founded. Many of its members had previously campaigned against the slave trade. On August 28, 1833, the Slavery Abolition Act was given Royal Assent, which paved the way for the abolition of slavery throughout the British Empire, which was substantially achieved in 1838. [B]In 1839, the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society was formed by Joseph Sturge, which attempted to outlaw slavery worldwide and also to pressure the government to help enforce the suppression of the slave trade by declaring slave traders pirates.[/B] The world's oldest international human rights organization, it continues today as Anti-Slavery International.[[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;51987275]you don't have to be making a comparison to other empires when you say the british empire was bad, we're not playing top trumps, we're talking about the suffering of human beings[/QUOTE] Im not sure why you seem to take such an issue with me having an opinion. I wasn't playing "top trumps", and the person I quoted was happy to compare the British Empire against other empires.

[QUOTE=David29;51987305]Im not sure why you seem to take such an issue with me having an opinion. I wasn't playing "top trumps", and the person I quoted was happy to compare the British Empire against other empires.[/QUOTE] do you mean the comparison he made to the [I]galactic empire?[/I]

[QUOTE=TheNukeNL;51987293]On the contrary see below: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism[/URL][/QUOTE] Banning chattal slavery != stopping treating native people like slaves See what happened in India LONG after the slave trade was banned. Brits were better than others with regard to banning chattal slavery but its a low bar to set for greatness - especially if you actions after that are comparable to genocide (See comparisons to Holodomir above)

Tories are just destroying us right now and it's horrible.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;51987310]do you mean the comparison he made to the [I]galactic empire?[/I][/QUOTE] Hey, even if it is a fictional empire, he still made a comparison. You berated me for doing that when [i]I didn't even directly make a comparison with anyone[/i].

[QUOTE=TheNukeNL;51987293]On the contrary see below: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism[/URL][/QUOTE] I'm well aware that they did abolish slavery. But that doesn't mean that people weren't practically slaves in many countries of the British Empire - like say Ireland. And there were still significant human rights abuses - like in Ireland. Or India. Or, well, any colony of Britain you care to mention.

[QUOTE=David29;51987323]Hey, even if it is a fictional empire, he still made a comparison. You berated me for doing that when [I]I didn't even directly make a comparison with anyone[/I].[/QUOTE] so let me get this straight you think that he was making a legitimate comparison when he said the british empire was worse (/less beautiful) than the fictional empire from star wars, that built something called [I]the death star[/I], and used the death star to blow up entire planets

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;51987330]so let me get this straight you think that he was making a legitimate comparison when he said the british empire was worse (/less beautiful) than the fictional empire from star wars, that built something called [I]the death star[/I], and used the death star to blow up entire planets[/QUOTE] I'm beginning to think you deliberately miss the point I'm making and fall back on something that I've not said.

Leavers should be gassed, fucking retards, because I really do need more things to worry about [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Low quality post" - Bengley))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51986916]Lets play a game round 1: Who is this quote from "I hate ____s. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion" A) Winston Churchill B) Heinrich Himmler round 2: In 1943 which nation/empire cut food supplies to _______ letting 3 million people starve to death while blocking other nations attempt to provide aid? A) Soviet Union B) British Empire[/QUOTE] I hate Winston Churchills. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51986584]what empire the empires been dead for 70 years we're not a powerful empire or a strong nation - we're just one of the European countries[/QUOTE] we can be great again, following these easy steps: - remove all benefits, anyone unemployed gets conscripted into the navy - rename the Commonwealth to British Empire, anyone who argues answers to the navy - take back the colonies, anyone who tries to stop us answers to the navy - having such a powerful navy and asserting ourselves will make other countries like us more, so we'll get 110% trade deals (right before we colonise them with the navy of course) - the navy

[QUOTE=Reagy;51986524][img]http://horobox.co.uk/u/reag/2017-03-20_12-55-39.png[/img] Gotta hit that all time low.[/QUOTE] Ohh yeshh, if there's anything that can make me smile at brexit, it's how bad it turned out within hours.

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;51987321]Tories are just destroying us right now and it's horrible.[/QUOTE] Didn't you vote for Brexit or was that a sick meme? And Scotland, get out while you still can!

It's honestly just sad to see a sizeable amount of the British people degrade into an endless loop of nostalgia for a time when they oppressed a quarter of the world and starved and killed Indians, Africans and Irish just so the ruling imperialists could boast about how they're the greatest nation in the world and how the 'sun never sets on the British Empire'.

[QUOTE=Yellowamoeba;51986497]I wonder how much value GBP will lose that day.[/QUOTE] Chicken tendies are projected to go from 10 GBPs-per-strip to 150. [editline]20th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;51987412]- take back the colonies, anyone who tries to stop us answers to the navy[/QUOTE] Lobsterbacks get out! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;51987412]we can be great again, following these easy steps: - remove all benefits, anyone unemployed gets conscripted into the navy - rename the Commonwealth to British Empire, anyone who argues answers to the navy - take back the colonies, anyone who tries to stop us answers to the navy - having such a powerful navy and asserting ourselves will make other countries like us more, so we'll get 110% trade deals (right before we colonise them with the navy of course) - the navy[/QUOTE] Ploughshares into Swords, Wheelchairs into Dreadnoughts. I await my conscription papers.

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;51987549]Grab the 10Y average so we include pre-recession exchange rates and the scale looks scarier, while pretending that the entire reason for the whole of the $0.13 drop immediately post-Brexit and the ~$0.10 after is purely because of Brexit and the dollar getting stronger has nothing to do with it. I rate your post a cherrypick/10.[/QUOTE] It was more to show how rapid the drop was in comparison to the past drops but alright if you see it that way.

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;51987549]Grab the 10Y average so we include pre-recession exchange rates and the scale looks scarier, while pretending that the entire reason for the whole of the $0.13 drop immediately post-Brexit and the [B]~$0.10 after is purely because of Brexit and the dollar getting stronger has nothing to do with it.[/B] I rate your post a cherrypick/10. [editline]20th March 2017[/editline] The $0.13 will (partially) rebound as the new trade deals get closed, depending on what's in them. For the remaining $0.10, you'll have to devaluate the USD somehow. Maybe call China?[/QUOTE] yeah thats kind of the definition of currency deflation

[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;51987549] dollar getting stronger has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE] The dollar is getting stronger now? Wat The US dollar is sitting at the same rate as it was before the election.

[QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;51987412]we can be great again, following these easy steps: - remove all benefits, anyone unemployed gets conscripted into the navy - rename the Commonwealth to British Empire, anyone who argues answers to the navy - take back the colonies, anyone who tries to stop us answers to the navy - having such a powerful navy and asserting ourselves will make other countries like us more, so we'll get 110% trade deals (right before we colonise them with the navy of course) - the navy[/QUOTE] Our navy would like to have a word with yours. [editline]20th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=DogGunn;51987635]The dollar is getting stronger now? Wat The US dollar is sitting at the same rate as it was before the election.[/QUOTE] the dollar is strong relative to everybody else though, the euro and the pound have both been dropping

[QUOTE=Sableye;51987636] the dollar is strong relative to everybody else though, the euro and the pound have both been dropping[/QUOTE] The dollar isn't getting stronger relative to everyone else. It's sitting at the same exchange rate to most currencies as it was before the election.