The new GMail compose interface to be mandatory for everyone forever
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[QUOTE=Kegan;40345750]You know, for a company as big as Google they sure are fucking retarded when it comes to making an interface that works and then STICKING with it. Youtube's been swapped out every 4 months and I bet you we'll see the same thing with fucking GMail.[/QUOTE]
they need something for their interns to do
Maybe they're testing the public's preferences by seeing what kind of interfaces work?
I like it.
I personally like the new compose layout. It allows me to navigate around my gmail, without having to save as a draft and go back to it later.
I'd like to see a dedicated application for Gmail, it would look a bit like Chrome but it's a proper offline email system. The GMail offline doesn't work, its just a simple link to the site which is pathetic.
I only use Outlook 2010, and Mozilla Thunderbird, but never Gmail on the web. So I don't really give a damn.
popout maximize problem solved?
Someone will make a userscript to make it bigger I'm sure.
[QUOTE=Killuah;40347485]Dude changing emails is not that easy. I have dozens of accounts working with it.
Of course you get dependent on the service.
And how is this update NOT forced?[/QUOTE]
it's not being forced upon you because you're not being forced to use gmail. you can go use live (which has an amazing ui layout, check it out) or yahoo or anything else if you can't stop complaining about a minor UI change with gmail that only a small portion of people dislike.
[QUOTE=Quark:;40359336]it's not being forced upon you because you're not being forced to use gmail. you can go use live (which has an amazing ui layout, check it out) or yahoo or anything else if you can't stop complaining about a minor UI change with gmail that only a small portion of people dislike.[/QUOTE]
"But but quark, I rarely send emails!"
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;40345698]Step 1: Get a standalone email client of your choice (Outlook, Thunderbird, whatever)
Step 2: Configure it to retrieve and send emails from and through your Gmail box using pop3/IMAP/SMTP
Congratulations, you will never have to worry about the scary concept of change, as long as you don't change your email client![/QUOTE]
beware friends this guy also runs linux. His methods usually involve usually taking simple things to the extreme.
[QUOTE=Matriax;40355208]Yeah the new send email thing fucking irritating.
The think that gets me about Gmail though, and this happens especially on mobile devices, is how they use pictures instead of words for function buttons. It's like a gamble every time I click on something to find out what the hell it does.[/QUOTE]
realtalk theres a setting for that in settings "button labels"
I personally like the new compose message interface.
Not that bad. One of the less annoying changes Google has made to their UI in recent memory (new Youtube layout, default inclusion of G+ media in search results).
For the past 3 years, I've pretty much only used Gmail through the Android client. Generally, its compose function gets the job done.
I like what Google's been doing with their UIs. I thought the compose view was pretty great too.
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The vibe in this thread is reminding me of people complaining whenever they change the facebook layout. As far as I see it, all changes to web services are usually for the better, and they lead to the services being easier to use.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;40363915]I like what Google's been doing with their UIs. I thought the compose view was pretty great too.
[editline]21st April 2013[/editline]
The vibe in this thread is reminding me of people complaining whenever they change the facebook layout. As far as I see it, all changes to web services are usually for the better, and they lead to the services being easier to use.[/QUOTE]
Exactly this. A major company like Google won't make a change to their UI unless it has demonstrable advantages over the previous one. This UI is cleaner, and more appealing to look at, allows for multi-tasking, etc. So, therefore it is demonstrably better. Things being moved around is hardly a problem unless they are moved to obscure locations, here they are just compacted into one menu.
Complaining about change because something works is stupid, to then say "don't fix what isn't broken" ratchets the dumb up a few notches. If people didn't try and improve working systems, we'd never see progress, things would stagnate so fucking badly.
Who even formats their emails anyways? If your email is so large and contains so much information that you need to format your text you should probably write a word document and attach it.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;40369541]Exactly this. A major company like Google won't make a change to their UI unless it has demonstrable advantages over the previous one. This UI is cleaner, and more appealing to look at, allows for multi-tasking, etc. So, therefore it is demonstrably better. Things being moved around is hardly a problem unless they are moved to obscure locations, here they are just compacted into one menu.
Complaining about change because something works is stupid, to then say "don't fix what isn't broken" ratchets the dumb up a few notches. If people didn't try and improve working systems, we'd never see progress, things would stagnate so fucking badly.[/QUOTE]
This isn't the inner workings of the internal combustion engine - it's the interface of a fucking mail service. Technology won't "stagnate" just because a retarded design decision isn't implemented to make using the mail fucking worse.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;40369653]Who even formats their emails anyways? If your email is so large and contains so much information that you need to format your text you should probably write a word document and attach it.[/QUOTE]
I was wondering this as well. I've never needed to do any major formatting besides maybe bullets. I don't I've ever received an email that made much use of formatting tools. I guess now that I think about it, compacting them sort of makes sense since they are so rarely used.
[QUOTE=Stopper;40369693]This isn't the inner workings of the internal combustion engine - it's the interface of a fucking mail service. Technology won't "stagnate" just because a retarded design decision isn't implemented to make using the mail fucking worse.[/QUOTE]
UI design can though. The e-mail protocol hasn't really changed because that works, there's not much more we need from it. UI design changes constantly, we find new ways to display information, new ways to receive user input. If people were happy to sit on the same UI for decades I'm sure we could, but what if we think we have a better way of doing something? We need to implement it to test it.
If this design truly does suck, and receives enough negative backlash Google will either roll it back or adapt it. Though it won't, as most people are probably going to get on fine with it. As I said, they know what they are doing, cocking up would cost them too much money.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;40371282]UI design can though. The e-mail protocol hasn't really changed because that works, there's not much more we need from it. UI design changes constantly, we find new ways to display information, new ways to receive user input. If people were happy to sit on the same UI for decades I'm sure we could, but what if we think we have a better way of doing something? We need to implement it to test it.
If this design truly does suck, and receives enough negative backlash Google will either roll it back or adapt it. Though it won't, as most people are probably going to get on fine with it. As I said, they know what they are doing, cocking up would cost them too much money.[/QUOTE]
Oh, really?
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I find nothing wrong with it, the size of the window screen for the compose screen is fine. Why would you need a whole screen for an email?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;40371282]UI design can though. The e-mail protocol hasn't really changed because that works, there's not much more we need from it. UI design changes constantly, we find new ways to display information, new ways to receive user input. If people were happy to sit on the same UI for decades I'm sure we could, but what if we think we have a better way of doing something? We need to implement it to test it.
[B]If this design truly does suck, and receives enough negative backlash Google will either roll it back or adapt it. Though it won't, as most people are probably going to get on fine with it. As I said, they know what they are doing, cocking up would cost them too much money.[/B][/QUOTE]
what people fail to realize is that a semimajor change like this has been 8-12 months before you ever saw it
they already have the telemetry to tell them 5% of users actually use these functions on a regular basis etc.
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