186mb of NSA malware leaked, rest auctioned off by hacker group - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50892741]judging by the grammatical errors, this is a Russian group[/QUOTE] My guess was chinese. But seriously, can we all take a moment to appreciate how glorious that post is? It's like something out of Mr.Robot.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50892741]judging by the grammatical errors, this is a Russian group[/QUOTE] imo it's impossible to say. If anything I would suspect the grammatical errors are intentional to make people think this was done by foreign hackers like the Russians and Chinese.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;50892549]For the internet being all about rights and due process, you all sure do support neither here.[/QUOTE] We care about rights of the citizens. We don't give a [I]damn[/I] about the rights of the government.

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;50891707]I kinda need to expand on this, this is Shit. They could have leaked information without the code. but they put the code in there, so if anyone has grabbed it before it was blocked, they now got a cyber-weapon. So Good on Github bad on NSA.[/QUOTE] I'm glad its getting leaked because if the code itself spreads around enough AV's/AM's can hopefully block it out once they obtain copies of it [QUOTE=Code3Response;50892338]So you're ok with theft from the federal government.[/QUOTE] so completely ignore all context regarding this, including the context that it's malware designed to spy on peoples personal information and that is something that shouldn't exist regardless of the intent of the entity using it I don't care how moral you think the NSA is, leaking malware designed to spy on people is a lot more moral than whatever they are doing

[QUOTE=phaedon;50891578]Oh, come on.[/QUOTE] It's better than the script kiddy names like 'lulzsec,'

Hold on, theyre claiming it's from EquationGroup. If that's true, that is extremely, extremely interesting.

[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;50893120]Hold on, theyre claiming it's from EquationGroup. If that's true, that is extremely, extremely interesting.[/QUOTE] How so?

[QUOTE=Omali;50893038]It's better than the script kiddy names like 'lulzsec,'[/QUOTE] They haven't pretended to DDoS anyone in so long I forgot about them tbh. Good riddance, they were obnoxious.

[QUOTE=paul simon;50893130]How so?[/QUOTE] We always knew that EG had a state backing, but iirc we didn't know who it was. The targets that EG attacked can now also be looked at through a different lens, at least imo.

Most of the stuff leaked is built from the past 3-4 years or so, makes you wonder whats in the other 40% of the files that is worth "560M", let alone what the NSA have right now.

[QUOTE=J!NX;50892883] so completely ignore all context regarding this, including the context that it's malware designed to spy on peoples personal information and that is something that shouldn't exist regardless of the intent of the entity using it I don't care how moral you think the NSA is, leaking malware designed to spy on people is a lot more moral than whatever they are doing[/QUOTE] I dont think its moral at all. I frankly dont care that this shit gets leaked all the time. Its that theres a double standard for "do the ends justify the means" being applied here

And as everyone technically competent has been saying, any backdoor for the "good guys" will always end up used by the bad guys.

Only 186 mb? Come on

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50892741]judging by the grammatical errors, this is a Russian group[/QUOTE] Professional hackers know how to speak correct English, believe me. It's just that speaking style can be backtracked to specific person so they have broken text & added grammatical errors.

[QUOTE=Fourier;50893981]Professional hackers know how to speak correct English, believe me. It's just that speaking style can be backtracked to specific person so they have broken text & added grammatical errors.[/QUOTE] Yeah, if you're paranoid (if you're not and you're fucking with the NSA then you should be), google translating things to French and back is probably a good step to avoid writing style analysis.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;50893346]I dont think its moral at all. I frankly dont care that this shit gets leaked all the time. Its that theres a double standard for "do the ends justify the means" being applied here[/QUOTE] and what would have happened if someone obtained the malware but didn't leak it? and instead used it for themselves? it shouldn't have existed to begin with. The ends justifying the means at this point doesn't matter, nor does it matter much shit gets leaked. This malware should have been dismantled in some way no matter what the way is to boot. [QUOTE=Ignhelper;50893878]Only 186 mb? Come on[/QUOTE] you wouldn't want your malware to be that big would you though? I'd imagine that the more complicated and large a single malware code is, the easier it would be to detect. That's an assumption though.

From [URL="http://orwell.ru/library/articles/ABomb/english/e_abomb"]George Orwell[/URL]: [QUOTE]It is a commonplace that the history of civilisation is largely the history of weapons. In particular, the connection between the discovery of gunpowder and the overthrow of feudalism by the bourgeoisie has been pointed out over and over again. And though I have no doubt exceptions can be brought forward, I think the following rule would be found generally true: that ages in which the dominant weapon is expensive or difficult to make will tend to be ages of despotism, whereas when the dominant weapon is cheap and simple, the common people have a chance. Thus, for example, tanks, battleships and bombing planes are inherently tyrannical weapons, while rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon — so long as there is no answer to it — gives claws to the weak.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE][B]The great age of democracy and of national self-determination was the age of the musket and the rifle[/B]. After the invention of the flintlock, and before the invention of the percussion cap, the musket was a fairly efficient weapon, and at the same time so simple that it [B]could be produced almost anywhere[/B]. Its combination of qualities made possible the success of the American and French revolutions, and made a popular insurrection a more serious business than it could be in our own day. After the musket came the breech-loading rifle. This was a comparatively complex thing, but it could still be produced in scores of countries, and[B] it was cheap, easily smuggled and economical of ammunition[/B]. Even the most backward nation could always get hold of rifles from one source or another, so that Boers, Bulgars, Abyssinians, Moroccans — even Tibetans — could [B]put up a fight for their independence, sometimes with success[/B]. But thereafter every development in military technique has favoured the State as against the individual, and the industrialised country as against the backward one. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]There are fewer and fewer foci of power. Already, [B]in 1939, there were only five states capable of waging war on the grand scale[/B], and now there are only three — ultimately, perhaps, only two. This trend has been obvious for years, and was pointed out by a few observers even before 1914. [B]The one thing that might reverse it is the discovery of a weapon — or, to put it more broadly, of a method of fighting — not dependent on huge concentrations of industrial plant.[/B][/QUOTE] You get the idea.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;50892338]So you're ok with theft from the federal government.[/QUOTE] Ok let me break down why you're wrong 1.) nothing was stolen. Software was copied. Unless you're implying that they were making money off this (?) 2.) it's NSA spyware that can now be patched out of consumer products. That's a GOOD thing. 3.) the mere existence of this software is completely illegal. Nothing but good things for the PEOPLE will come of this.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;50892549]For the internet being all about rights and due process, you all sure do support neither here.[/QUOTE] When the government has effectively made it illegal to know about what they're doing in this realm, what else is there to do? You can't exactly sue them for info like other parts of the government.

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;50897674][media]https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/765513662597623808[/media] Open the tweet for the rest.[/QUOTE] yay this means snowden isn't dead

what I'm really wondering here is if Code3Response is ok with the government using malware to spy on people and gather information without civilians noticint

While not the best way of doing it this serves as a reminder that mass surveilance is unethical and should be illegal.