Bill Gates donates $10 billion to vaccinate 3rd world
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[QUOTE=Lankist;19916418]And how does this affect you in any way shape or form?
aside from being able to profit from a cheaper work force.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't affect us, but they have to cut down rain forests in order to grow the food to support themselves.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916435]nah they can be fixed by LETTING PEOPLE DIE right?
and you idiots call ME cold and cynical. Enough with the tough internet edgy act. You aren't cool by sticking it to the goddamn CHARITIES.[/QUOTE]
I never said I was against this at all. I never said that it can be fixed by letting people die. Stop putting words in my mouth. Yes, Bill Gates did a good deed, this will let so many people in 3rd world countries get vaccinations, etc etc... But on a greater scale, is there any sort of long term plan to fix these countries?
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916471]It doesn't affect us, but they have to cut down rain forests in order to grow the food to support themselves.[/QUOTE]
oh god forbid someone cuts down a tree so they don't have to STARVE TO DEATH.
the FUCK is wrong with you kids. You're all acting like psychopaths.
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[QUOTE=Kybalt;19916480]I never said I was against this at all. I never said that it can be fixed by letting people die. Stop putting words in my mouth. Yes, Bill Gates did a good deed, this will let so many people in 3rd world countries get vaccinations, etc etc... But on a greater scale, is there any sort of long term plan to fix these countries?[/QUOTE]
It helps them fix their own countries.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916507]oh god forbid someone cuts down a tree so they don't have to STARVE TO DEATH.
the FUCK is wrong with you kids. You're all acting like psychopaths.
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It helps them fix their own countries.[/B][/QUOTE]
And this has worked in..? and is greatly improving quality of life in..?
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916507]oh god forbid someone cuts down a tree so they don't have to STARVE TO DEATH.
the FUCK is wrong with you kids. You're all acting like psychopaths.
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Because less trees means less wildlife.
Basically you're condoning china cutting down all their forests to support their overpopulation?
Humans aren't the only animal on this planet.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;19916525]And this has worked in..? and is greatly improving quality of life in..?[/QUOTE]
South Africa.
Sorry to say, but unless the money is going towards something akin to the Worldwide Smallpox vaccinations, then I can guarantee most of the money/vaccines will go towards corrupt warlords.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916577]Because less trees means less wildlife.
Basically you're condoning china cutting down all their forests to support their overpopulation?
Humans aren't the only animal on this planet.[/QUOTE]
We are the most important by natural law. If you want to save a tree then I suggest you stop utilizing the power lines for your computer, the timber for your home and the leather for your shoes.
Drop the facade. You are the most important thing to you, you will not make the sacrifice of your life for some squirrel. At least the rest of us are honest about it.
Ok, good, it's going towards a foundation, here's to hoping it actually succeeds.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916603]We are the most important by natural law. If you want to save a tree then I suggest you stop utilizing the power lines for your computer, the timber for your home and the leather for your shoes.[/QUOTE]
Except my country has no problem with over population and our population isn't growing nearly as fast as china's.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916618]Except my country has no problem with over population and our population isn't growing nearly as fast as china's.[/QUOTE]
So basically it doesn't affect you in the slightest. And yet you think you have the right to tell people how they need to handle their shit, and that they need to let millions of human beings die to save some fucking ants.
You disgust me.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916630]So basically it doesn't affect you in the slightest. And yet you think you have the right to tell people how they need to handle their shit, and that they need to let millions of human beings die to save some fucking ants.
You disgust me.[/QUOTE]
You're arguing to people that have likely never ventured farther then their state/territory/province for anything longer then a vacation.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916630]So basically it doesn't affect you in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
Using power? Not really since I get most of my power from the Pickering power plant.
Canada is 45% trees, while china is only 12%.
If I were to cut down a tree, it wouldn't have the same ecological effects as it would in china.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;19916658]You're arguing to people that have likely never ventured farther then their state/territory/province for anything longer then a vacation.[/QUOTE]
They're the kind of kid who lived in such a secluded little suburb that they never even saw a black man until they were in their middle ages.
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916686]Using power? Not really since I get most of my power from the Pickering power plant.
Canada is 45% trees, while china is only 12%.
If I were to cut down a tree, it wouldn't have the same ecological effects as it would in china.[/QUOTE]
That's China's problem, not yours. If they don't feel like letting millions of people die slowly that's their business, you need to get your head the fuck out of it.
Jesus, you have LESS compassion and human empathy than the CHINESE GOVERNMENT. The same government that kills thousands with tanks. Do you realize how fucked up you are?
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916688]They're the kind of kid who lived in such a secluded little suburb that they never even saw a black man until they were in their middle ages.[/QUOTE]
Man you guys have it so rough, you totally know so much about the world.
Because seeing black people makes you good at discussing politics apparently.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916710]Man you guys have it so rough, you totally know so much about the world.
Because seeing black people makes you good at discussing politics apparently.[/QUOTE]
Having lived in more countries then you've probably visited also helps.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916688]
That's China's problem, not yours. If they don't feel like letting millions of people die slowly that's their business, you need to get your head the fuck out of it.
Jesus, you have LESS compassion and human empathy than the CHINESE GOVERNMENT. The same government that kills thousands with tanks. Do you realize how fucked up you are?[/QUOTE]
What did I say that makes me fucked up?
I said china is cutting down all their trees to support their growing population, apparently that makes me a monster.
You're an idiot.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916710]Man you guys have it so rough, you totally know so much about the world.
Because seeing black people makes you good at discussing politics apparently.[/QUOTE]
Uhh being a minority raised in poverty and a lawyer makes me good at discussing politics and ethics.
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916728]I said china is cutting down all their trees to support their growing population, apparently that makes me a monster.[/QUOTE]
No, you're implying they need to stop supporting their population.
THAT makes you a monster.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;19916525]And this has worked in..? and is greatly improving quality of life in..?[/QUOTE]
It helped in Europe after World War 2.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916729]Uhh being a minority raised in poverty and a lawyer makes me good at discussing politics and ethics.[/QUOTE]
What's your background and how old are you?
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No, you're implying they need to stop supporting their population.
THAT makes you a monster.[/quote]I'm saying they should WATCH their population because if there was ever a diaster like the potato blights in Ireland in the 1840s, hundreds of millions would die.
I'm not saying they should stop supporting their population at all.
To be honest it doesn't really affect me, nor do I care, if they have a bunch of children.
However, if they continue on the path they were on during the 50-70s, they would be so overpopulated it'd be more of a disaster than it already is.
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;19916766]It helped in Europe after World War 2.[/QUOTE]
Singapore, too. Though now they are a tyrannical state.
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[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916776]What's your background and how old are you?[/quote]
27 years old hispanic research lawyer raised in foster care. Also gay. And a super hero.
[quote]I'm saying they should WATCH their population because if there was ever a disaster like the potatoe blights in the 1840s, hundreds of millions would die.
I'm not saying they should stop supporting their population at all.
However, if they continue on the path they were on during the 50-70s, they would be so overpopulated it'd be more of a disaster than it already is.[/QUOTE]
Population control is a mild form of genocide.
Your arguing with Lankist amuses me.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916779]
27 years old hispanic research lawyer raised in foster care.
Population control is a mild form of genocide.[/QUOTE]
If we had children like how we did back in the Classical age, we'd have way more overpopulation problems than we do now.
When you live in an age when children are more likely to live than die, the average person lives to 80 opposed to 30, and you have 3 children per couple (as china did pre-1 child policy), eventually your country will be so crowded no one can breathe.
Population control might be a form of genocide, but it's more or less for the good of the population.
If every teenager in the states had a child in their teens, they'd never finish university and the states would have a lot more problems, and most likely the quality of life would go down.
You wouldn't consider people who condone abortion to be serial killers would you? Abortion is population control.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916835]If we had children like how we did back in the Classical age, we'd have way more overpopulation problems than we do now.
When you live in an age when children are more likely to live than die, the average person lives to 80 opposed to 30, and you have 3 children per couple (as china did pre-1 child policy), eventually your country will be so crowded no one can breathe.[/QUOTE]
Then kill yourself to help prevent it.
Otherwise, stop talking. If you think you're too important to make that sacrifice how the fuck can you expect anyone else to.
I read as "Bill Gates donates $10 to vaccinate 3rd world" I guess this is a little better
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916860]Then kill yourself to help prevent it.
Otherwise, stop talking. If you think you're too important to make that sacrifice how the fuck can you expect anyone else to.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say that.
You're misinterpreting what I'm saying.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;19916899]I didn't say that.
You're misinterpreting what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]
You're saying we should control births and lifespan.
That is what you are saying.
This isn't Logan's Run FYI. If you'd watched that movie you'd realize you were the badguy in it.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916908]You're saying we should control births and lifespan.
That is what you are saying.
This isn't Logan's Run FYI. If you'd watched that movie you'd realize you were the badguy in it.[/QUOTE]
Seen that.
I never suggested population control brosef, I just said if china and India don't watch their populations, if there ever was a food shortage caused by disease their populations would be destroyed.
That's no excuse to tell people they can't have children.
[QUOTE=Lankist;19916980]That's no excuse to tell people they can't have children.[/QUOTE]
People should realize that if everyone in China had a lot of children, after a few generations, China would be so overpopulated they'd suffocate from lack of oxygen.
Countries like Canada and the US can have a lot of children and take a lot of immigrants because they have a lot of uninhabited land.
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