Best Korea fires mortars at Worst Korea - Developing Story
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Where do we go from here?
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;26253449]SK routinely does drills there, and the island isn't contested, the armistice agreement gave it to SK.[/QUOTE]
I thought I read somewhere that it was a contested territory, being so close to the border... I may of read wrong.
But still, why would you do military drills right NEXT to a nation who has vowed your destruction over and over?
[QUOTE=Alyx Zark;26252740]Oh I believe I found it [img_thumb]http://www.apload.de/bild/84947/korean4TR3V.jpg[/img_thumb]
Soo Min Young! Take that AC130 with your bow and arrow down![/QUOTE]
civilization 4
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;26252223]I doubt it, even in the first Korean war we still had some struggles against them, and now they've had time to analyze tactics and modernize their military, I can imagine this could be a fierce war if it does go down.[/QUOTE]
I know, and that's why I'm so worried that if this turns in to a full scale military conflict that it would be more devastating than the war on Iraq. And leaving a behind a huge pile of human bodies because of one mad man is not a very good outcome.
I'm not really sure what to say here. I'm honestly waiting on China- their opinion is really the most important. Usually, China is either neutral or takes North Korea's (in this instance, the clear belligerent) side. China has long sought to be a major peace keeping power in the Asiatic region, and now that they boast the second largest economy in the world, next to the States, it's their stance that I deem most important. The States will almost always be quick and swift to condemn any actions made by North Korea that seem to be unjustifiable. In this case, they've already condemned it and promised further action- which they have done before on some occasions, but this time around China is being very cautious. They're not being quick to take a side, because they know that they're North Korea's only vital and key ally and that if they "betray their trust", if you will, major changes may soon follow. All I can say at this point is that I sincerely hope that no more will come of this, and tensions will cease to rise on the peninsula.
[QUOTE=General Arnold;26252760]Not to start a flame war,But. Heres my opinion, Sk Attacks Nk, America helps out, Russia goes We can take advantage and attack us. Nato and In get involved and then, BOOM War.
War... War Never changes.
Fuck. Tom clancys World in conflict,Comes to life[/QUOTE]
Bro, this ain't a video game Russia doesn't attack like that...
[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26253617]I'm not really sure what to say here. I'm honestly waiting on China- their opinion is really the most important. Usually, China is either neutral or takes North Korea's (in this instance, the clear belligerent) side. China has long sought to be a major peace keeping power in the Asiatic region, and now that they boast the second largest economy in the world, next to the States, it's their stance that I deem most important. The States will almost always be quick and swift to condemn any actions made by North Korea that seem to be unjustifiable. In this case, they've already condemned it and promised further action- which they have done before on some occasions, but this time around China is being very cautious. They're not being quick to take a side, because they know that they're North Korea's only vital and key ally and that if they "betray their trust", if you will, major changes may soon follow. All I can say at this point is that I sincerely hope that no more will come of this, and tensions will cease to rise on the peninsula.[/QUOTE]
To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing the Chinese storm the NK north border again, on our side, if it does come to that.
[editline]23rd November 2010[/editline]
[QUOTE=dragonkilla;26253633]Bro, this ain't a video game Russia doesn't attack like that...[/QUOTE]
Don't tell him this, but he's still stuck in the late 60''s.
[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26253617]I'm not really sure what to say here. I'm honestly waiting on China- their opinion is really the most important. Usually, China is either neutral or takes North Korea's (in this instance, the clear belligerent) side. China has long sought to be a major peace keeping power in the Asiatic region, and now that they boast the second largest economy in the world, next to the States, it's their stance that I deem most important. The States will almost always be quick and swift to condemn any actions made by North Korea that seem to be unjustifiable. In this case, they've already condemned it and promised further action- which they have done before on some occasions, but this time around China is being very cautious. They're not being quick to take a side, because they know that they're North Korea's only vital and key ally and that if they "betray their trust", if you will, major changes may soon follow. All I can say at this point is that I sincerely hope that no more will come of this, and tensions will cease to rise on the peninsula.[/QUOTE]
Your avatar just fit with all that you said.
Scorpious for leader
[QUOTE=JDER14;26253698]To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing the Chinese storm the NK north border again, on our side, if it does come to that.[/QUOTE]
Well it could be a more favorable option, but although it may be nice to see a totalitarian regime ruled by Best Korea Leader, it shouldn't have to come to that.
EDIT: Thanks, scorpious. That's why I have it like that.
christ I'm hoping my friend comes back in one piece if shit hits the fan
I bought him Men of War so we could play when he comes back on leave :smith:
Well hopefully it won't come to that, and when it does hit the fan we'll all have lived our lives by then and are already waiting for the reaper to take us for old age.
god damn it I actually liked the 2 countries.
I'm hoping the north doesn't go stupid with a nuke and make this escalate into a bigger problem than it is already.
North Korea srsly needs someone/something to puncture their ego.
[QUOTE=tehperzon;26253822]god damn it I actually liked the 2 countries.
I'm hoping the north doesn't go stupid with a nuke and make this escalate into a bigger problem than it is already.[/QUOTE]
Why would you like NK?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26253836]Why would you like NK?[/QUOTE]
Because North Korea, Best Korea.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26253836]Why would you like NK?[/QUOTE]
He likes asian guys with a Napoleon Complex.
[QUOTE=lukepker;26253866]Because North Korea, Best Korea.[/QUOTE]
But of course :doh:
[editline]23rd November 2010[/editline]
Welp, I gotta head home from college. Watch the thread have 30,000+ New Posts when I get back on in a half hour.
Secondly, the South could be obliterated in a matter of days if the North were to attack, and the south were to receive no aid from foreign powers (assuming it was strictly North vs. South). Although their weapons are outdated, they have shown their might with the new Nuclear facilities that have been built, the newest of which containing over 100 centrifuges; many of their weapons systems and interception devices vastly outnumber that of South Korea. Seeing as Seoul is a mere 75 miles from the North Korean border, it would be futile for the South to try to defend the city were an invasion to happen. The south simply lacks an army that can match up to the North's, mainly because the north is growing increasingly wary of its allies in recent years, the most prominent being China, as I stated in the last post. Because of this, and the fact that they are one of the few remaining communist regimes in the world, they are trying to deter the major democratic powers (The United States being one of the top examples) from imposing further sanctions and cutting off supplies.
In spite of all of this, the south would be quickly aided by its many allies, which includes the States at the top of the list. The US has over 50,000 active troops (give or take a few ten thousand, I don't quite remember the numbers) stationed in areas around South Korea since the armistice was signed at the end of the Korean War. Although they are at risk if an invasion were to occur, they would not be left alone. The states has obviously, as shown in the media recently, been staging military training exercises near the DMZ and the border in the sea. The two powers of S.Korea and the States are trying to counter-deter (yes, it's a word) the North Korean government from using military enforcement, and negotiate terms for nuclear disarmament.
Overall, if a war were to break out, it would be similar to a wrestling match between two equally sized fighters- it would just create a stalemate: The North has a vast amount of weapons systems and defenses against the South, yet the South has many, many key allies that would aid drastically towards fighting against the Communist North.
[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26253989][B]Secondly,[/B] the South could be obliterated in a matter of days if the North were to attack, and the south were to receive no aid from foreign powers (assuming it was strictly North vs. South). Although their weapons are outdated, they have shown their might with the new Nuclear facilities that have been built, the newest of which containing over 100 centrifuges; many of their weapons systems and interception devices vastly outnumber that of South Korea. Seeing as Seoul is a mere 75 miles from the North Korean border, it would be futile for the South to try to defend the city were an invasion to happen. The south simply lacks an army that can match up to the North's, mainly because the north is growing increasingly wary of its allies in recent years, the most prominent being China, as I stated in the last post. Because of this, and the fact that they are one of the few remaining communist regimes in the world, they are trying to deter the major democratic powers (The United States being one of the top examples) from imposing further sanctions and cutting off supplies.[/QUOTE]
I gotta wonder... where did your first point go?
they're a huge market for games so it'd be a cold day in hell when america stops considering SK as an essential ally.
The idiots have arrived.
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:foxnews: "Right-wing media: Act "like a superpower" and attack North Korea" :foxnews:
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Also, why can't conservatives understand the implications of starting a nuclear war?
[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26253989]Secondly, the South could be obliterated in a matter of days if the North were to attack, and the south were to receive no aid from foreign powers (assuming it was strictly North vs. South). Although their weapons are outdated, they have shown their might with the new Nuclear facilities that have been built, the newest of which containing over 100 centrifuges; many of their weapons systems and interception devices vastly outnumber that of South Korea. Seeing as Seoul is a mere 75 miles from the North Korean border, it would be futile for the South to try to defend the city were an invasion to happen. The south simply lacks an army that can match up to the North's, mainly because the north is growing increasingly wary of its allies in recent years, the most prominent being China, as I stated in the last post. Because of this, and the fact that they are one of the few remaining communist regimes in the world, they are trying to deter the major democratic powers (The United States being one of the top examples) from imposing further sanctions and cutting off supplies.
In spite of all of this, the south would be quickly aided by its many allies, which includes the States at the top of the list. The US has over 50,000 active troops (give or take a few ten thousand, I don't quite remember the numbers) stationed in areas around South Korea since the armistice was signed at the end of the Korean War. Although they are at risk if an invasion were to occur, they would not be left alone. The states has obviously, as shown in the media recently, been staging military training exercises near the DMZ and the border in the sea. The two powers of S.Korea and the States are trying to counter-deter (yes, it's a word) the North Korean government from using military enforcement, and negotiate terms for nuclear disarmament.
Overall, if a war were to break out, it would be similar to a wrestling match between two equally sized fighters- it would just create a stalemate: The North has a vast amount of weapons systems and defenses against the South, yet the South has many, many key allies that would aid drastically towards fighting against the Communist North.[/QUOTE]
Why would the South just crumble so quickly in everyone's eyes? They have a massive military, on par with the Norths, and if they were fighting defensively it won't just collapse. They also have mandatory conscription.
[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26253989]The US has over 50,000 active troops (give or take a few ten thousand, I don't quite remember the numbers) stationed in areas around South Korea since the armistice was signed at the end of the Korean War. [/QUOTE]
Actually, only 28500, as said by [url=http://www.america.gov/st/texttrans-english/2008/October/20081020121847eaifas0.7119104.html]Secretary Gates himself[/url]. Out of those guys, the actual combat troops consist of 2/5 of a brigade combat team, and two air force wings.
[QUOTE=Smasher 006;26254206]The idiots have arrived.
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Yeah nuke them, great idea, its not like there are innocent people in that country or anything. Honestly I can stand people like that.
[QUOTE=Tac Error;26254245]Actually, only 28500, as said by [URL="http://www.america.gov/st/texttrans-english/2008/October/20081020121847eaifas0.7119104.html"]Secretary Gates himself[/URL]. Out of those guys, the actual combat troops consist of 2/5 of a brigade combat team, and two air force wings.[/QUOTE]
Ah, thanks. I read from a source that it was somewhere around 50,000, but yours is obviously more reputable and believable.
[QUOTE=Regulas021;26254242]Why would the South just crumble so quickly in everyone's eyes? They have a massive military, on par with the Norths, and if they were fighting defensively it won't just collapse. They also have mandatory conscription.[/QUOTE]
If you compare some mundane statistics about their respective militaries:
Republic of Korea Armed Forces (S.Korea):
655,000 Active Personnel
12,483,677 Available for service (2005 estimate)
Korean People's Army (N Korea):
4,810,831 males fit for service (2005 estimate)
4,853,270 females fit for service (2005 estimate)
1,106,000 active personnel (2005)
This isn't taking into account reserve personnel, whereas NK has over 8 million.
Regardless, these are just common statistics that aren't in-depth. It's merely the fact that North Korea would presumably use a blitzkrieg-style attack on the South if it were to invade.
EDIT: Spelling error.
I like how people think this is some video game...
[QUOTE=melindagreen;26254503]I like how people think this is some video game...[/QUOTE]
Well, seeing as many of the forum-goers are younger than 15, many of them compare this to games such as Call of Duty: Black Ops or Modern Warfare 2. Can't wait for them to be old enough to think for themselves...
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