Best Korea fires mortars at Worst Korea - Developing Story - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Smasher 006;26254206]The idiots have arrived. [url]http://mediamatters.org/research/201011230041?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+mediamatters/latest+(Media+Matters+-+Latest+Items[/url])[/QUOTE] And conservatives wonder why so many liberals think they're dumb. I'm generalizing but still, people need to stop saying stupid shit like this. We get the black mark for saying 'universal healthcare'.

Just heard on the radio on the drive home - South Korea is claiming this was a "well planned" attack. [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Shadowstone;26253989]Secondly, the South could be obliterated in a matter of days if the North were to attack, and the south were to receive no aid from foreign powers (assuming it was strictly North vs. South). Although their weapons are outdated, they have shown their might with the new Nuclear facilities that have been built, the newest of which containing over 100 centrifuges; many of their weapons systems and interception devices vastly outnumber that of South Korea. Seeing as Seoul is a mere 75 miles from the North Korean border, it would be futile for the South to try to defend the city were an invasion to happen. The south simply lacks an army that can match up to the North's, mainly because the north is growing increasingly wary of its allies in recent years, the most prominent being China, as I stated in the last post. Because of this, and the fact that they are one of the few remaining communist regimes in the world, they are trying to deter the major democratic powers (The United States being one of the top examples) from imposing further sanctions and cutting off supplies. In spite of all of this, the south would be quickly aided by its many allies, which includes the States at the top of the list. The US has over 50,000 active troops (give or take a few ten thousand, I don't quite remember the numbers) stationed in areas around South Korea since the armistice was signed at the end of the Korean War. Although they are at risk if an invasion were to occur, they would not be left alone. The states has obviously, as shown in the media recently, been staging military training exercises near the DMZ and the border in the sea. The two powers of S.Korea and the States are trying to counter-deter (yes, it's a word) the North Korean government from using military enforcement, and negotiate terms for nuclear disarmament. Overall, if a war were to break out, it would be similar to a wrestling match between two equally sized fighters- it would just create a stalemate: The North has a vast amount of weapons systems and defenses against the South, yet the South has many, many key allies that would aid drastically towards fighting against the Communist North.[/QUOTE] Actually American only has 28,000 troops stationed there. But that's not counting other UN troops and such.

[QUOTE=melindagreen;26254503]I like how people think this is some video game...[/QUOTE] Nuclear war is a serious fucking thing.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26254635]Just heard on the radio on the drive home - South Korea is claiming this was a "well planned" attack. [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] Actually American only has 28,000 troops stationed there. But that's not counting other UN troops and such.[/QUOTE] I don't think the UN still has any real presence in Korea

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26254635] Actually American only has 28,000 troops stationed there. But that's not counting other UN troops and such.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I realized that after someone else posted the same thing. Acknowledged, thanks. :)

Wow, 720 new posts since last night. Has anything interesting happened?

Mostly just debate about a possible war. Nothing new, shadow_of_intent.

[QUOTE=shadow_of_intent;26254743]Wow, 720 new posts since last night. Has anything interesting happened?[/QUOTE] People acting like this situation will play out like Call of Duty.

[QUOTE=shadow_of_intent;26254743]Wow, 720 new posts since last night. Has anything interesting happened?[/QUOTE] Not really, but everyone is kinda nervous and jittery.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;26254118]I gotta wonder... where did your first point go?[/QUOTE] Oh, apologies for not responding; my first point is on the previous page, but I didn't bother to edit it into the OP because it wouldn't have been read. Also, you have three posts until gold member. Good job.

[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26254734]Yeah, I realized that after someone else posted the same thing. Acknowledged, thanks. :)[/QUOTE] No problem.

[QUOTE=Smasher 006;26254206]The idiots have arrived. [url]http://mediamatters.org/research/201011230041?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+mediamatters/latest+(Media+Matters+-+Latest+Items[/url])[/QUOTE] I'[b]VERY BAD IDEA[/b]. We're still stuck in the middle east with a war that's been depleting us of money, resoures, and most importantly young American men and women. Now they want us to enter a war that could potentially ruin the Korean Peninsula for decades, and be even more costly than the 2003 Invasion of "WMD"land. They need to [b][u][i]THINK.[/b][/u][/i]

[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26254788]Oh, apologies for not responding; my first point is on the previous page, but I didn't bother to edit it into the OP because it wouldn't have been read. Also, you have three posts until gold member. Good job.[/QUOTE] Holy shit, it's true! Also, I see it now. Cheers.

itt: barely informed, pointless, mindless drivel attempting to predict an uncertain and infinitely complex future

[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;26253144]Nothing is going to come out of this, NK wouldn't dare to fire a single BB to the general direction of the border, not on this year.[/QUOTE] You mean besides the intentional firing of 200 artillery shells at a South Korean civilian village? Nope, nothing to see here.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;26254820]itt: barely informed, pointless, mindless drivel attempting to predict an uncertain and infinitely complex future[/QUOTE] I think this is how most debates are, they talk about things they have no personal experience in but read some things on the internet

[QUOTE=JDER14;26254798]I'[b]VERY BAD IDEA[/b]. We're still stuck in the middle east with a war that's been depleting us of money, resoures, and most importantly young American men and women. Now they want us to enter a war that could potentially ruin the Korean Peninsula for decades, and be even more costly than the 2003 Invasion of "WMD"land. They need to [b][u][i]THINK.[/b][/u][/i][/QUOTE] I'm kind of iffy on this. As I explained earlier, the consequences of doing so would be very dire for both sides, but in a sense I can see where they're coming from. The North has been irking for some time and there's some justification for doing this.

debates on FACEPUNCH I mean, of course

World War Three is STARTING :ohdear:

[QUOTE=Tetracycline;26254843]I think this is how most debates are, they talk about things they have no personal experience in but read some things on the internet[/QUOTE] Yeah except when it's about events that have actually [i]happened[/i] in terms that most people can understand, like politics, it makes sense to have a debate on opinions. What we've got here though is people debating about a country they know [i]nothing about[/i] with regards to events [i]that have not even happened[/i]. It's so pointless. The only thing it serves to do is make people needlessly excited and to give all the armchair-generals semis to nurse.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26254593]And conservatives wonder why so many liberals think they're dumb.[/QUOTE] Stop generalizing. You'll be quick to say the same when someone on your side of the spectrum does or says something stupid.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;26254891]Yeah except when it's about events that have actually [i]happened[/i] in terms that most people can understand, like politics, it makes sense to have a debate on opinions. What we've got here though is people debating about a country they know [i]nothing about[/i] with regards to events [i]that have not even happened[/i]. It's so pointless. The only thing it serves to do is make people needlessly excited and to give all the armchair-generals semis to nurse.[/QUOTE] :golfclap:

[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26254470]Ah, thanks. I read from a source that it was somewhere around 50,000, but yours is obviously more reputable and believable. If you compare some mundane statistics about their respective militaries: Republic of Korea Armed Forces (S.Korea): 655,000 Active Personnel 12,483,677 Available for service (2005 estimate) Korean People's Army (N Korea): 4,810,831 males fit for service (2005 estimate) 4,853,270 females fit for service (2005 estimate) 1,106,000 active personnel (2005) This isn't taking into account reserve personnel, whereas NK has over 8 million. Regardless, these are just common statistics that aren't in-depth. It's merely the fact that North Korea would presumably use a blitzkrieg-style attack on the South if it were to invade. EDIT: Spelling error.[/QUOTE] They sit on a peninsula. The US fields, hands down, the single most powerful navy on the planet. The resulting air campaign and naval bombardment does not end well for North Korea no matter how many defenses they have erected to counter it. If it comes down to killing your civilians or letting you kill allied civilians, you are up shit creek. The USAF loves it some napalm.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;26254891]Yeah except when it's about events that have actually [i]happened[/i] in terms that most people can understand, like politics, it makes sense to have a debate on opinions. What we've got here though is people debating about a country they know [i]nothing about[/i] with regards to events [i]that have not even happened[/i]. It's so pointless. The only thing it serves to do is make people needlessly excited and to give all the armchair-generals semis to nurse.[/QUOTE] You can also change people's points of view for the better if you try. [editline]23rd November 2010[/editline] Where's my goldmember, Y U DO DIS

[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26254846]I'm kind of iffy on this. As I explained earlier, the consequences of doing so would be very dire for both sides, but in a sense I can see where they're coming from. The North has been irking for some time and there's some justification for doing this.[/QUOTE] Some? There's every fucking justification for this. The bloody North does stupid shit like this all the time, something needs to be done. All it takes is one well planned assault to get them to stop.

[QUOTE=Shadowstone;26254846]I'm kind of iffy on this. As I explained earlier, the consequences of doing so would be very dire for both sides, but in a sense I can see where they're coming from. The North has been irking for some time and there's some justification for doing this.[/QUOTE] So they attack South Korea? The nation with which they have the MOST trade?

[QUOTE=GunFox;26254929]They sit on a peninsula. The US fields, hands down, the single most powerful navy on the planet. The resulting air campaign and naval bombardment does not end well for North Korea no matter how many defenses they have erected to counter it. If it comes down to killing your civilians or letting you kill allied civilians, you are up shit creek. The USAF loves it some napalm.[/QUOTE] Very true, but then you suffer the logistical nightmare that is the average American fucknut. A bullet so much as flies within six miles of a civilian in Iraq and all hell breaks loose. Can you imagine what would happen here if we just went and bombed the hell out of North Korea?

[QUOTE=GunFox;26254929]The USAF loves it some napalm.[/QUOTE] Um... I'm not very well informed on this matter but: [quote=untrustworthy wiki]International law does not prohibit the use of napalm or other incendiaries against military targets, but use by or against civilian populations was banned by the United Nations Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (CCW) in 1980. Protocol III of the CCW restricts the use of all incendiary weapons...[/quote]

My AI says that his buddies say serious shits bout to go down.

[QUOTE=Dalndox;26254967]Very true, but then you suffer the logistical nightmare that is the average American fucknut. A bullet so much as flies within six miles of a civilian in Iraq and all hell breaks loose. Can you imagine what would happen here if we just went and bombed the hell out of North Korea?[/QUOTE] When the North not only started it, but is doing exactly the same thing to South Korea? There is always going to be a PR hit, but when your justification is "We do it so they STOP doing exactly the same thing to our ALLIES" I imagine you will likely be fine.