• Best Korea fires mortars at Worst Korea - Developing Story
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26256907]You specifically said "no regime" at all. So you are incorrect.[/QUOTE] It's a joke dude. I was wrong. [editline]24th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Jumbo_Grill;26256966]Where's bond when we need him.[/QUOTE] Studio budget cuts mean he can't do shit to save the world right now.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;26256928]You are probably right. Planting the seed of doubt will eventually grow the mightiest tree. I didn't say anything about diplomacy. I find this to be a tough dilemma that can't be solved overnight by a bunch of guys on an internet forum. Except for Gunfox's idea. That was brilliant.[/QUOTE] I like the quote: "It has been said “the truth will make men free.” The truth alone has never set anyone free. It is only DOUBT which will bring mental emancipation. Without the wonderful element of doubt, the doorway through which truth passes would be tightly shut..."
Hey look I woke up and nothing has changed. South Korea says stop, North Korea will stop for several months, then do it again.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26256955]Not necessarily. It's still operated under a single party system, and he's elevated his son as successor because he holds the most influence, as I understand it, it doesn't hold a family tree.[/QUOTE] The Byzantine Empire had no monarchy. The Emperor was an elected position. BUT, the emperor could appoint a "co-emperor". This person would have all the same statuses and abilities as the emperor, but would still be submissive to the de jure emperor. Through this system of appointing "co-emperors", the empire sustained their dynasties by appointing their sons "co-emperor" before their death, at which time the co-emperor, being the only "emperor" left, would become the de jure emperor. NK is doing the same thing, basically. The Byzantine Empire was called an empire despite having an "elected head of state".
[QUOTE=Dalndox;26257003]I like the quote: "It has been said “the truth will make men free.” The truth alone has never set anyone free. It is only DOUBT which will bring mental emancipation. Without the wonderful element of doubt, the doorway through which truth passes would be tightly shut..."[/QUOTE] Beautiful. Where's that from?
[QUOTE=Dalndox;26257003]I like the quote: "It has been said “the truth will make men free.” The truth alone has never set anyone free. It is only DOUBT which will bring mental emancipation. Without the wonderful element of doubt, the doorway through which truth passes would be tightly shut..."[/QUOTE] I agree that truth in itself does not set anyone free. But the actions of those working with the truth certainly can.
Well, off to bed for me. Hopefully N.Korea hasn't done anything stupid by tomorrow, and I wish all those who could be involved in any conflict never have to face it. I also hope Gunfox unbans Warhol, but we can't have everything.
[QUOTE=GunFox;26256550]The fact that they are already in a food shortage is what would make the plan more effective. :D And how would the US food relief hurt them? (Other than heartattacks and diabetes :-P)[/QUOTE] I don't mean the US food would hurt them. I mean Kim Jong Il would.
What was the point of the shelling anyway?
[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;26257158]What was the point of the shelling anyway?[/QUOTE] So NK can show how big its penis is and not have SK do anything about it.
[QUOTE=Kazumi;26257038]Beautiful. Where's that from?[/QUOTE] Interestingly enough, it's from The Satanic Bible, written by Anton Szandor LaVey. :v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26257199]So NK can show how big its penis is and not have SK do anything about it.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/26/article-1187592-0514D2BD000005DC-303_468x611.jpg[/img]
Nk is just bitchin' it up.
DEFCON 4 :smith:
[QUOTE=GunFox;26254929]They sit on a peninsula. The US fields, hands down, the single most powerful navy on the planet. The resulting air campaign and naval bombardment does not end well for North Korea no matter how many defenses they have erected to counter it. If it comes down to killing your civilians or letting you kill allied civilians, you are up shit creek. The USAF loves it some napalm.[/QUOTE] Is that why NATO's 1999 bombing in Yugoslavia didn't end "well" for Serbia? Despite NATO and US aircraft dropping all kinds of shit on Serbian military targets and its air defense systems roughly on par with 1991 Iraq, it got away without much of a scratch since Serbia used the terrain, weather and false targets to counter the threat of PGMs. Here are some quotes from USAF Colonel Steven R. Prebeck from a [url=http://www.comw.org/qdr/fulltext/9305prebeck.pdf]dissertation[/url] he wrote back in the 1990s. Although he uses nuclear facilities as the primary target, you could replace that with North Korea's fielded ground forces: [quote]Along with their fighter force, the North Koreans have an elaborate AAA and surface-to-air missile (SAM) capability, although it is mostly concentrated on their southern border ... Any other option requires a sustained campaign involving the removal of air defenses.[/quote] [quote]Considering the uncertainty introduced by providing warning and including North Korean air defenses, the target base increases tremendously ... [b]Finally, air defenses would have to be destroyed to ensure freedom of access to targets.[/b][/quote] [quote]...this target set would necessitate a force much the same as in Desert Storm—a total of nearly 3,800 US aircraft. B-52, F-16, A-6, and A-7 air-craft with “dumb” bombs could be used to strike manufacturing facilities and airfields. However, the warhead targets would still require F-117 and F-111 sorties with PGMs. Of course, this higher level of effort would require air refueling, reconnaissance, airborne warning and control system, electronic jamming, and air defense suppression support.[/quote] While North Korea's AA systems are outdated, there's a shitload of them and they can launch plenty of stuff into the air to pose a danger to Allied air forces. USAF doctrine would place any SAMs and AAA as priority targets. As Colonel Prebeck identifies, eliminating them would involve hundreds of sorties, which would take up resouces and time. If NK uses similar counter-air measures as Serbia did, then it will likely end "okay" for them. Additionally, if a surprise attack is launched, there wouldn't be enough aircraft or cruise missiles on hand to conduct a "killer" air campaign against NK ground forces. What will be the main bulwark against NK forces are going to be the poor ground pounders who will bear the brunt of the fighting.
It'll be just like Mercenaries, but real.
I think an even more fitting quote would be: "When one doubt is followed by another, the bubble, grown large from long accumulated fallacies, threatens to burst... The bubble of falsehood is bursting and its sound is the roar of the world!" [sp]There are a few unrelated sentences in between, so don't mind the "..."[/sp]
[QUOTE=ItsGary;26257421]It'll be just like Mercenaries, but real.[/QUOTE] That's like me reading a story about civil war in Africa and claiming it's just like FarCry 2 for real
Most of you are american, why you supporting some facist north korean warlord? and think as him as your hero, but I know your just being satirical. bwhahaha. But no one gives a fuck, and just see north and south blow another up, bye bye with your starcraft.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;26257594]That's like me reading a story about civil war in Africa and claiming it's just like FarCry 2 for real[/QUOTE] [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100723133809/mercs/images/thumb/0/04/Mattias_nilsson_face.png/200px-Mattias_nilsson_face.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Saren;26257682]Most of you are american, why you supporting some facist north korean warlord? and think as him as your hero, but I know your just being satirical. bwhahaha. But no one gives a fuck, and just see north and south blow another up, bye bye with your starcraft.[/QUOTE] Who the hell here honestly supports NK? I don't know what you're talking about
I got info I'm not sure if it's true or false but I heard that China is planning to invade NK to put a stop to them possibly once and for all.
[QUOTE=Saren;26257682]Most of you are american, why you supporting some facist north korean warlord? and think as him as your hero, but I know your just being satirical. bwhahaha. But no one gives a fuck, and just see north and south blow another up, bye bye with your starcraft.[/QUOTE] I wish gold members would set an example instead of just clog the forums with shitty posts.
[QUOTE=Saren;26257682]Most of you are american, why you supporting some facist north korean warlord? and think as him as your hero, but I know your just being satirical. bwhahaha. But no one gives a fuck, and just see north and south blow another up, bye bye with your starcraft.[/QUOTE] What the flying fuck are you talking about? Nobody here is supporting [sp]Glorious Leader[/sp] Kim Jong-Il. It's a discussion about whether something worse might break out, and the curiosity as to what their neighboring countries are going to do.
If Korean War Vol. 2 happened I don't think the resulting M*A*S*H series would be NEARLY as good.
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[QUOTE=Dalndox;26257775]What the flying fuck are you talking about? Nobody here is supporting [sp]Glorious Leader[/sp] Kim Jong-Il. It's a discussion about whether something worse might break out, and the curiosity as to what their neighboring countries are going to do.[/QUOTE] LMAO, well do what you want with your glorious leader.
okay guys I just finished Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix and cried when [sp]Sirius died[/sp] What'd I miss
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[quote]"The two sides raised the surveillance alert to Watchcon-2 from Watchcon-3 Tuesday night," a South Korean military official said.[/quote] Apparently they still suspect NK may pull something. [quote=Wikipedia]There are four WATCHCON stages.[2] WATCHCON 4 is in effect during normal peacetime. WATCHCON 3 is in effect amidst indications of an important threat. WATCHCON 2 is in effect amidst indications of a vital threat. WATCHCON 1 is in effect during wartime.[/quote]
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