Best Korea fires mortars at Worst Korea - Developing Story - Polidicks

[quote=tac error;26263821]in 1974 no one would have expected the soviet union to fall by 1991, just as most of us don't expect homefront's us to face north korea's "operation american freedom" by 2027 - not saying that such a scenario is possible, but history has shown that unexpected things on a global scale like that have happened before.[/quote] lol

[QUOTE=safcwebster;26266625]i dont know if this has being posted but... Koreas on 'brink of war' because of Seoul, Pyongyang source - [URL]http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/24/nkorea.skorea.military.fire/index.html?hpt=T1[/URL][/QUOTE] All I heard was "enormous retaliation that South Korea is planning to take." Well, I for one welcome our new Korean Overlords.

I have 50 north korea flags being delivered to me. I want to hang them everywhere then post pics

[quote]The impact was felt internationally, with [b]U.S. 10-year Treasury futures rising[/b] and the Japanese yen falling.[/quote] Good news for the USA, that's for sure. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;26266584]We were gonna be in the next Korean War anyway.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Foo King;26267167]All I heard was "enormous retaliation that South Korea is planning to take." Well, I for one welcome our new Korean Overlords.[/QUOTE] It won't last 7 minutes. The North Korean Army is nothing compared to the South Korean and the USA Combined.

I'm enlisting in the marines or army if shit goes down. take a look at what these NK fucks do to their [b]own[/b] people, they starve them and put them in concentration camps, honestly it's hitler-esque. The 'great leader' tells it's people that everyone is starving because they aren't working hard enough, the people in NK aren't even aware of an outside world and many are born in concentration camps. it's on GoogleTechTalks, I suggest you watch this. [b]BORN AND RAISED IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP[/b] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms4NIB6xroc[/media] Here's some wiki articles about their concentration camps. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_22[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_human_experimentation[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodok_concentration_camp[/url] Here's a story about these camps, this has been going on for years why are we still cashing people in caves? [quote]n the remote north-eastern corner of North Korea, close to the border of Russia and China, is Haengyong. Hidden away in the mountains, this remote town is home to Camp 22 - North Korea's largest concentration camp, where thousands of men, women and children accused of political crimes are held. Now, it is claimed, it is also where thousands die each year and where prison guards stamp on the necks of babies born to prisoners to kill them. Over the past year harrowing first-hand testimonies from North Korean defectors have detailed execution and torture, and now chilling evidence has emerged that the walls of Camp 22 hide an even more evil secret: gas chambers where horrific chemical experiments are conducted on human beings. Witnesses have described watching entire families being put in glass chambers and gassed. They are left to an agonising death while scientists take notes. The allegations offer the most shocking glimpse so far of Kim Jong-il's North Korean regime. Kwon Hyuk, who has changed his name, was the former military attaché at the North Korean Embassy in Beijing. He was also the chief of management at Camp 22. In the BBC's This World documentary, to be broadcast tonight, Hyuk claims he now wants the world to know what is happening. 'I witnessed a whole family being tested on suffocating gas and dying in the gas chamber,' he said. 'The parents, son and and a daughter. The parents were vomiting and dying, but till the very last moment they tried to save kids by doing mouth-to-mouth breathing.' Hyuk has drawn detailed diagrams of the gas chamber he saw. He said: 'The glass chamber is sealed airtight. It is 3.5 metres wide, 3m long and 2.2m high_ [There] is the injection tube going through the unit. Normally, a family sticks together and individual prisoners stand separately around the corners. Scientists observe the entire process from above, through the glass.' He explains how he had believed this treatment was justified. 'At the time I felt that they thoroughly deserved such a death. Because all of us were led to believe that all the bad things that were happening to North Korea were their fault; that we were poor, divided and not making progress as a country. 'It would be a total lie for me to say I feel sympathetic about the children dying such a painful death. Under the society and the regime I was in at the time, I only felt that they were the enemies. So I felt no sympathy or pity for them at all.' His testimony is backed up by Soon Ok-lee, who was imprisoned for seven years. 'An officer ordered me to select 50 healthy female prisoners,' she said. 'One of the guards handed me a basket full of soaked cabbage, told me not to eat it but to give it to the 50 women. I gave them out and heard a scream from those who had eaten them. They were all screaming and vomiting blood. All who ate the cabbage leaves started violently vomiting blood and screaming with pain. It was hell. In less than 20 minutes they were quite dead.' Defectors have smuggled out documents that appear to reveal how methodical the chemical experiments were. One stamped 'top secret' and 'transfer letter' is dated February 2002. The name of the victim was Lin Hun-hwa. He was 39. The text reads: 'The above person is transferred from ... camp number 22 for the purpose of human experimentation of liquid gas for chemical weapons.' Kim Sang-hun, a North Korean human rights worker, says the document is genuine. He said: 'It carries a North Korean format, the quality of paper is North Korean and it has an official stamp of agencies involved with this human experimentation. A stamp they cannot deny. And it carries names of the victim and where and why and how these people were experimented [on].' The number of prisoners held in the North Korean gulag is not known: one estimate is 200,000, held in 12 or more centres. Camp 22 is thought to hold 50,000. Most are imprisoned because their relatives are believed to be critical of the regime. Many are Christians, a religion believed by Kim Jong-il to be one of the greatest threats to his power. According to the dictator, not only is a suspected dissident arrested but also three generations of his family are imprisoned, to root out the bad blood and seed of dissent. With North Korea trying to win concessions in return for axing its nuclear programme, campaigners want human rights to be a part of any deal. Richard Spring, Tory foreign affairs spokesman, is pushing for a House of Commons debate on human rights in North Korea. 'The situation is absolutely horrific,' Spring said. 'It is totally unacceptable by any norms of civilised society. It makes it even more urgent to convince the North Koreans that procuring weapons of mass destruction must end, not only for the security of the region but for the good of their own population.' [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/feb/01/northkorea[/url][/quote]

Not sure if this has been posted yet. [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/zwixwg.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=R3mix;26267237]Good news for the USA, that's for sure. It won't last 7 minutes. The North Korean Army is nothing compared to the South Korean and the USA Combined.[/QUOTE] You obviously haven't been reading this thread. The North Koreans have the 4th largest army in the WORLD. Yes, the US is higher up on that list, but NK's military would be [I]entirely[/I] focused on SK and already is integrated into having a war with them where as US forces are spread out across the planet and pretty unprepared for war in Korea.

plus they'll be fighting real soldiers which might be a bit challenging for the average american soldier

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267362]plus they'll be fighting real soldiers which might be a bit challenging for the average american soldier[/QUOTE] u r funni

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;26267375]u r funni[/QUOTE] ty u arent dont forget that seoul has 10million citizens and the moment war breaks out , seoul will be bombarded and horrific amounts of people will die

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267362]plus they'll be fighting real soldiers which might be a bit challenging for the average american soldier[/QUOTE] In all fairness, NK soldiers haven't fought "real soldiers" either. In fact, they've had less military experience than American forces who have been in wars since 50s. What real military operations since '53 has NK gained experience through? Only constantly military drills and parades.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26267326]You obviously haven't been reading this thread. The North Koreans have the 4th largest army in the WORLD. Yes, the US is higher up on that list, but NK's military would be [I]entirely[/I] focused on SK and already is integrated into having a war with them where as US forces are spread out across the planet and pretty unprepared for war in Korea.[/QUOTE] Numbers < Technology This [img]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47595000/jpg/_47595461_minutemaniii_getty226.jpg[/img] [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/dhtml_slides/10/us_russia_nuclear/img/nuclear_arsenals_466_2.gif[/img] vs This [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Taepodong-2_scheme.jpg[/img] [b]Looks like we're doomed.[/b][/sarcasm]

yes that is true but the american soldiers have got too used to fighting guerillas

[QUOTE=R3mix;26267404]Numbers < Technology This [img_thumb]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47595000/jpg/_47595461_minutemaniii_getty226.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/bsp/hi/dhtml_slides/10/us_russia_nuclear/img/nuclear_arsenals_466_2.gif[/img_thumb] vs This [img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Taepodong-2_scheme.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] You're a moron to assume the US will send nuclear warheads to NK the moment war breaks out. Even if NK wins and conquers all of SK, the US won't use nukes.

[QUOTE=R3mix;26267404]Numbers < Technology -things-[/QUOTE] Someone posted a picture of soldiers fireing Bows and arrows at a plane earlier in the thread to highlight that point.

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267410]yes that is true but the american soldiers have got too used to fighting guerillas[/QUOTE] It's generally believed that fighting a guerrilla war is tougher than a conventional war, so would this not be going from a "Hard mode" difficulty to at least "Moderate mode"?

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26267422]You're a moron to assume the US will send nuclear warheads to NK the moment war breaks out. Even if NK wins and conquers all of SK, the US won't use nukes.[/QUOTE] You're a moron to assume that NK won't send nuclear warheads to SK or the USA. Seriously, what the hell do you think all this missile defense system is for?

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267362]plus they'll be fighting real soldiers which might be a bit challenging for the average american soldier[/QUOTE] Why do you say this?

[QUOTE=R3mix;26267446]You're a moron to assume that NK won't send nuclear warheads to SK or the USA. Seriously, what the hell do you think all this missile defense system is for?[/QUOTE] The North Korean military is NOT 99.9% nuclear missiles. And the US missile defense system is from the cold war, not to protect us from NK originally.

[QUOTE=Smasher 006;26267423]Someone posted a picture of soldiers fireing Bows and arrows at a plane earlier in the thread to highlight that point.[/QUOTE] This? [img]http://media.metronews.ca/images/0a/b7/1b39f4414748a24fe12b39e0ae0d.jpeg[/img]

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26267445]It's generally believed that fighting a guerrilla war is tougher than a conventional war, so would this not be going from a "Hard mode" difficulty to at least "Moderate mode"?[/QUOTE] you do not expect things from a guerilla war that will happen in a conventional war

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;26267504]This? [img_thumb]http://media.metronews.ca/images/0a/b7/1b39f4414748a24fe12b39e0ae0d.jpeg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] North Korean native Americans? YOU GOT INVADED AND DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IT!!!

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267531]you do not expect things from a guerilla war that will happen in a conventional war[/QUOTE] Really dude. Do some research. At least look up the training programs of the US military.

[QUOTE=Arachnidus;26265614]At least we're playing hard ball now. The North will be hard pressed to do anything if they want to avoid a blitz by a full carrier group.[/QUOTE] If it's a Nimitz Class Carrier it will scare the ever loving shit outta them due it's size

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267531]you do not expect things from a guerilla war that will happen in a conventional war[/QUOTE] What does that mean?

Um I hate to break it to the anti americans in this thread but NK would be annihilated quite easily without the use of nuclear weapons. I'm not going to go off through a checklist of each technical advantage the SK+USA alliance has over NK but I'm sure you can get it a picture that it wouldn't end well for NK at all.

You guys have to realize that NK is in the worst tactical position known to man. It's allies refuse to lend military support, it's locked in on all sides(China from the north, who will not lend aid), water to the sides and the main enemy to the south. US Naval Forces, alongside the Korean fleet, could easily block off North Korea without effort. Not to mention that it's a small ass country on a peninsula, so all that's needed to be done is get a few aircraft carriers down there and launch some fighters to keep the NK flyers out of the air and to cover tactical bombers. Missile barrages from frigates and gunships will take out the majority of the enemy before they even reach the DMZ, and then a slow advance on Pyongyang can begin. Not saying it'd be a clean war for the Allies, but to be fair, NK is screwed in every hole.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26267491]The North Korean military is NOT 99.9% nuclear missiles. And the US missile defense system is from the cold war, not to protect us from NK originally.[/QUOTE] Read the below. Also, the US Missile Defense System is NOT only from the Cold War. There's places in Europe where we have stationed defense, in Colorado, and in MANY other places in the world and IN Our own country, and SURROUNDING our borders in the water with the Navy and Everything. IF Anyone even TRIED to shoot a Missile at us, it'd be STUPID of them. [QUOTE=Zeus;26267591]Um I hate to break it to the anti americans in this thread but NK would be annihilated quite easily without the use of nuclear weapons. I'm not going to go off through a checklist of each technical advantage the SK+USA alliance has over NK but I'm sure you can get it a picture that it wouldn't end well for NK at all.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Arachnidus;26267682]You guys have to realize that NK is in the worst tactical position known to man. It's allies refuse to lend military support, it's locked in on all sides(China from the north, who will not lend aid), water to the sides and the main enemy to the south. US Naval Forces, alongside the Korean fleet, could easily block off North Korea without effort. Not to mention that it's a small ass country on a peninsula, so all that's needed to be done is get a few aircraft carriers down there and launch some fighters to keep the NK flyers out of the air and to cover tactical bombers. Missile barrages from frigates and gunships will take out the majority of the enemy before they even reach the DMZ, and then a slow advance on Pyongyang can begin. Not saying it'd be a clean war for the Allies, but to be fair, NK is screwed in every hole.[/QUOTE] Indeed. China will never lend its support to NK considering the fact of the trade it has with the US, and the amount of fucking profit it makes. North Korea is fucked the moment they even try something.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26267563]Really dude. Do some research. At least look up the training programs of the US military.[/QUOTE] really dude, dont want

[QUOTE=Anteep2;26267770]really dude, dont want[/QUOTE] :getout: fucking troll.