Best Korea fires mortars at Worst Korea - Developing Story
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[QUOTE=jetboy;26268613]It's not the actual bombs that would kill us all, the atmosphere would ignite if they sent enough.[/QUOTE]Haha, what?
[QUOTE=larrylumpy;26268560]Dude, a massive amount of shit's potentially about to go down. Of course it's gonna be on top :v:[/QUOTE]
But isn't it clear that by now there will be no military action?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;26268234]Did you know that it only takes roughly 10-12 nuclear detonations to cause a nuclear winter? And both there are literally tens of thousands of nuclear weapons on the planet?
Just 10 and the whole planet is dead.
I wonder what just ONE could do.
Let alone more.[/QUOTE]
The United States conducted around 1,054 nuclear tests (by official count)
The Soviet Union conducted 715 nuclear tests (by official count, including the detonation of the Tsar bomb, a nuclear bomb with 100 times the power of Hiroshima)
The United Kingdom has conducted 45 tests
France has conducted 210 nuclear tests
The People's Republic of China conducted 45 tests
India conducted 5 or 6 tests
Pakistan conducted 2 tests
N.Korea has conducted 1 nuclear test
Not including the two used in Japan in WWII.
So overall there have been (At least) 2078 nuclear bombs being detonated on land, underwater, in the air and underground from the 1940's to the 1990's, yet we're still here. Of course these were done in remote locations, but they have been spread all over the world, and it has had almost no effect on global ecology.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26268692]The United States conducted around 1,054 nuclear tests (by official count)
The Soviet Union conducted 715 nuclear tests (by official count)
The United Kingdom has conducted 45 tests
France has conducted 210 nuclear tests
The People's Republic of China conducted 45 tests
India conducted 5 or 6 tests
Pakistan conducted 2 tests
N.Korea has conducted 1 nuclear test
Not including the two used in Japan in WWII.
So overall there have been (At least) 2078 nuclear bombs being detonated on land, underwater, in the air and underground from the 1940's to the 1990's, yet we're still here. Of course these were done in remote locations, but they have been spread all over the world, [B]and it has had almost no effect on global ecology.[/B][/QUOTE]
Cancer.
[QUOTE=Miskav;26268770]Cancer.[/QUOTE]
It's given cancer to troops stationed nearby the tests, yes. But I just hope that was an attempt to be funny.
[QUOTE=Miskav;26268770]Cancer.[/QUOTE]Who? How many? What kind of cancer? (other than those unfortunate sods asked to march through a mushroom cloud?)
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;26268676]But isn't it clear that by now there will be no military action?[/QUOTE]
we're sending aircraft carriers to the yellow sea, and our military is going to start training with SK.....shit's getting weary but it might just be a bloodfart.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;26268692]The United States conducted around 1,054 nuclear tests (by official count)
The Soviet Union conducted 715 nuclear tests (by official count, including the detonation of the Tsar bomb, a nuclear bomb with 100 times the power of Hiroshima)
The United Kingdom has conducted 45 tests
France has conducted 210 nuclear tests
The People's Republic of China conducted 45 tests
India conducted 5 or 6 tests
Pakistan conducted 2 tests
N.Korea has conducted 1 nuclear test
Not including the two used in Japan in WWII.
So overall there have been (At least) 2078 nuclear bombs being detonated on land, underwater, in the air and underground from the 1940's to the 1990's, yet we're still here. Of course these were done in remote locations, but they have been spread all over the world, and it has had almost no effect on global ecology.[/QUOTE]
You do know he probably means 10-12 nukes almost at once/in a short time period
[QUOTE=OatmealMan;26268905]You do know he probably means 10-12 nukes almost at once/in a short time period[/QUOTE]
If that's what he meant; he's still very wrong.
[QUOTE=Smasher 006;26268514]Nuclear bombs will level an inner city, make the parts about half a kilometre away weak enough to fall down, and further away from that just damages building like any other bomb. The effects can be over exaggerated, especially in this scene.
*video*
You'd get an extremely hot bast wave heading your way, but it wouldn't vaporise them.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I disagree with that. ICBM's today have the blast radius of over 400km.
[quote]The exercise will include sending the aircraft carrier George Washington and a number of accompanying ships into the region, both to deter further attacks by the North and to signal to China that unless it reins in its unruly ally it will see an even larger American presence in the vicinity.
The decision came after Mr. Obama attended the end of an emergency session in the White House Situation Room and then emerged to call President Lee Myung-bak of South Korea to express American solidarity and talk about a coordinated response.
But as a former national security official who dealt frequently with North Korea in the Bush administration, Victor Cha, said just a few hours before the attack began, North Korea is “the land of lousy options.”
Mr. Obama is once again forced to choose among unpalatable choices: responding with verbal condemnations and a modest tightening of sanctions, which has done little to halt new attacks; starting military exercises that are largely symbolic; or reacting strongly, which could risk a broad war in which South Korea’s capital, Seoul, would be the first target.
The decision to send the aircraft carrier came as the South Korean military went into what it termed “crisis status.” President Lee said he would order strikes on a North Korean base if there were indications of new attacks.
North Korea’s artillery shells fell on Yeonpyeong Island, a fishing village whose residents fled by ferry to the mainland city of Inchon — where Gen. Douglas MacArthur’s troops landed 60 years ago this fall, three months after the outbreak of the Korean War.
Today, Inchon is the site of South Korea’s main international airport, symbolizing the vulnerability of one of the world’s most vibrant economies to the artillery of one of the world’s poorest and most isolated nations.
A senior American official said that an early American assessment indicated that a total of about 175 artillery shells were fired by the North and by the South in response on Tuesday.
But an American official who had looked at satellite images said there was no visible evidence of preparations for a general war. Historically, the North’s attacks have been lightning raids, after which the North Koreans have backed off to watch the world’s reaction. This one came just hours after the South Koreans had completed a long-planned set of military exercises, suggesting that the North Korean attack was “premeditated,” a senior American official said.
Television reports showed large plumes of black smoke spiraling from the island, as dozens of houses caught fire. The shelling killed two marines and two civilians who lived on the island and whose burned bodies were discovered as damage from the shelling was being cleared away. The South put its fighter planes on alert — but, tellingly, did not put them in the air or strike at the North’s artillery bases. Mr. Obama was awakened at 3:55 a.m. by his new national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, who told him of the attack.
John Delury, a professor at Yonsei University in Seoul, said he heard strong reactions Wednesday afternoon to the news of the civilian deaths, the first in decades of skirmishes between the two countries. “This is extremely serious,” he said.
Just 11 days before, North Korea had invited a Stanford nuclear scientist to Yongbyon, its primary nuclear site, and showed him what was described as a just-completed centrifuge plant that, if it becomes fully operational, should enable North Korea to enrich uranium into nuclear fuel and add to its arsenal of 8 to 12 nuclear weapons.
Taken together, the nuclear demonstration and the attack were widely interpreted as an effort to bolster the credentials of Kim Jong-un, the heir apparent as the country’s leader, and the son and grandson of the only two men who have run the country. When his father, Kim Jong-il, North Korea’s ailing leader, was establishing his credentials, the North conducted a similar series of attacks.
“They have a 60-year history of military provocations — it’s in their DNA,” said a senior administration official. “What we are trying to do is break the cycle,” a cycle, he said, that has North Korea’s bad behavior rewarded with “talks, inducements and rewards.” He said that the shelling would delay any effort to resume the six-nation talks about the North’s nuclear program.
While Mr. Obama was elected on a promise of diplomatic engagement, his strategy toward the North for the past two years, called “strategic patience,” has been to demonstrate that Washington would not engage until the North ceased provocations and demonstrated that it was living up to past commitments to dismantle, and ultimately give up, its nuclear capacity.
The provocations have now increased markedly, and it is not clear what new options are available. Beijing’s first reaction on Tuesday was to call for a resumption of the six-nation talks involving North and South Korea, Russia, Japan, China and the United States. The last meeting was two years ago, at the end of the Bush administration.
Mr. Obama’s aides made it clear in interviews that the United States had no intention of returning to those talks soon. But its leverage is limited. [/quote]
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/25/world/asia/25korea.html?_r=2&ref=northkorea[/url]
( And just so you know, The USA and Russia are being reduced by the START Treaty once it's signed to 1550. )[/QUOTE]
Because radiation totally doesn't exist :downs:
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( And just so you know, The USA and Russia are being reduced by the START Treaty once it's signed to 1550. )[/QUOTE]
why the fuck does france have nukes
shouldn't they be more concerned about shortages of riot gear
[QUOTE=cccritical;26269276]why the fuck does france have nukes
shouldn't they be more concerned about shortages of riot gear[/QUOTE]
And white flags.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;26269585]And white flags.[/QUOTE]
in either case they'll need both if riots erupt near their storage facilities, better for them to just not have nukes
[QUOTE=R3mix;26268071]It's not what the Government wants. It's what the [b]people[/b] want. The people supported the war in Iraq once upon a time. The people now support the withdrawal from iraq. ( Talking Majority here, not including minority ) I find it hard to believe that if NK tried to nuke us, the people would say oh lets just forgive them and bomb the shit out of them with conventional bombing. Pretty sure they'd want to nuke the shit out of them. But, that's just my opinion.
"All's fair in love and war."
Technical Advantage only makes wars shorter for whoever has it.
SK Isn't fucked, NK is.[/QUOTE]
You missed the page of this thread where I discussed something like this. In all honesty, the average American fucknut doesn't honestly know what's best for this country. This country was not built on eye-for-an-eye politics. Americans are prone to allowing emotion and mob mentality to determine how they think.
Just because TV might be filled with a bunch of jackasses screaming blood, does not mean they are right. That is what we have a government for in the first place.
This may be the first ITN thread that will require a V2
Hold it cowboy, there's still more than 2,000 posts to go. Last time I checked the max count is 5,000. :clint:
[QUOTE=Raneman;26269930]This may be the first ITN thread that will require a V2[/QUOTE]Didn't the Cheonan thread max out as well, or was I thinking of something else?
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;26270007]Didn't the Cheonan thread max out as well, or was I thinking of something else?[/QUOTE]
I think that the Jessi Slaughter thread had three or so versions. But this thread will probably be the most active one by the end of this month and maybe it'll last to 1st december.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;26269585]And white flags.[/QUOTE]
They don't have a shortage of white flags.
[QUOTE=croguy;26270053]I think that the Jessi Slaughter thread had three or so versions.[/QUOTE]Well that's not really a news thread, to be honest. Internet drama spawning a few memes and a shitstorm, at most.
I don't know guys, after this attack, I feel that it is way too obvious that a war is going to break out. It's already showing how seriously stupid best korea is.
[QUOTE=Smasher 006;26268514]Nuclear bombs will level an inner city, make the parts about half a kilometre away weak enough to fall down, and further away from that just damages building like any other bomb. The effects can be over exaggerated, especially in this scene.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR_midwZ2f0[/media]
You'd get an extremely hot bast wave heading your way, but it wouldn't vaporise them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and once the infrastructure is taken down, you know, as people usually do in a strategic strike on something, you will lose most of your population from lack of water and starvation.
[QUOTE=FunkyHippo;26270106]I don't know guys, after this attack, I feel that it is way too obvious that a war is going to break out. It's already showing how seriously stupid best korea is.[/QUOTE]If none of the dozens of other incidents between them caused war e.g. sinking of the Cheonan, this one isn't. Nothing much has happened after the South counterbattery fire, just the usual round of condemnations and withdrawal of aid.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;26270191]If none of the dozens of other incidents between them caused war e.g. sinking of the Cheonan, this one isn't. Nothing much has happened after the South counterbattery fire, just the usual round of condemnations and withdrawal of aid.[/QUOTE]
you don't see all that foolishness leading to something bad?
[QUOTE=FunkyHippo;26270259]you don't see all that foolishness leading to something bad?[/QUOTE]This is the game North Korea's been playing since the end of the war; I mean fuck, they've blown up civilan airliners! It will take something more severe to provoke an actual war, for among many reasons, South Korea really really really really does not want a war, and thus are more likely to put up with this shit.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;26270312]This is the game North Korea's been playing since the end of the war; I mean fuck, they've blown up civilan airliners! It will take something more severe to provoke an actual war, for among many reasons, South Korea really really really really does not want a war, and thus are more likely to put up with this shit.[/QUOTE]
I understand. That sure is a lot of bullshit though.
Best korea all the way.
[editline]24th November 2010[/editline]
Hail emperor!
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