[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39586465]you'd rather trust public votes on the internet than the majority of critics who are actually paid to write reviews and say that it's crap?[/QUOTE]
Critics aren't always right. Movies are subjective, after all.
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39586133]I wouldn't be surprised if there's people here who liked Suckerpunch or something[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Scot;39586470]Critics aren't always right. Movies are subjective, after all.[/QUOTE]
except this isn't just one person's opinion
this is several. almost every one
you'd have to produce a massive turd of a movie if only 13% of critics like it
I see a bunch of people here hopping on a band wagon about how shitty the movie is without even seeing it. When someone comes along who's like, 'hey this might not be so bad, we should watch it first' he's rated dumb and get a bunch of disagrees. What's the deal?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;39586464]No I'd take we'll thought out reviews over two sentence pleb reviews[/QUOTE]
I mean, I'm just a pleb and not a critic, I'd probably never notice flaws that critics would notice. Also 27400 votes by the viewers with an average of 3.9/5. Gotta be more watchable than the average 13/100 given by the 70 critics.
Edit:
Take the game Mass Effect 3, 93/100 Metascore by 74 critics. Gotta be the best game on this planet right?
The series died for me after the 3rd
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;39586465]you'd rather trust public votes on the internet than the majority of critics who are actually paid to write reviews and say that it's crap?[/QUOTE]
No they are right it's crap and shows that they didn't understand why 1 and 3 were so good.
[QUOTE=Adarrek;39586525]The series died for me after the 3rd[/QUOTE]
My personal choices:
Die Hard
Die Hard: With A Vengeance
Live Free or Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Haven't seen the new one so can't form a total opinion
I didn't know about this film till a couple of days ago.
[QUOTE=smurfy;39586117]I thought so but most people on FP seemed to be looking forward to it
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1237016[/url]
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For the record I never actually said that, it was me evil twin brother Zallimuster55.
The first one is more of a thriller and that's what makes it so good.
Plinkets Star Wars review applies here too. The first one used the action to deliver psychological duel, 4 and 5 is just one explosion after the other.
[QUOTE=Killuah;39586584]The first one is more of a thriller and that's what makes it so good.
Plinkets Star Wars review applies here too. The first one used the action to deliver psychological duel, 4 and 5 is just one explosion after the other.[/QUOTE]
Does that necessarily make it BAD?
[QUOTE=Solomon;39586599]Does that necessarily make it BAD?[/QUOTE]
If you take the name of a good series(well 1 to 3) and make a generic action explosion movie under that name, yes that makes it bad.
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In fact I rewatched Die Hard for a bit, it takes 17 minutes for the first "action" to take place and that's a flashbang.
Stick John McClane back in a claustrophobic building just as a regular cop in a wrong-time-wrong-place situation where he has something personal to lose and isn't ridiculously bad ass but just another random guy. That's what made the first ones so great and different. 3 was good in its own right and 4 was pretty fun, but they don't match 1 and 2 in terms of intensity or drama for sure. The scale was too big to really care. I care more about his wife than I do a country because there's no personal level in that. If it's McClane's wife, who he loves and who we meet throughout the movie, I'm going to care more. If he's actually stuck in a place where it's totally plausible and even likely he'll lose, I'll care more. When I won't care, is if he's a fucking unstoppable killing machine stopping a huge scale terrorist operation going all over the country. That barely even has popcorn factor.
Die Hard works best as a thriller than an action movie for sure.
I like how the audience meter is 83%..
Still can't beat the original.
A skyscraper, a cop that just wants Christmas dinner with his family, and Alan Rickman being batshit insane.
Die Hard 1 was the best Christmas movie ever.
I'm going to see it at work right now, I'll come back and say what I thought
[QUOTE=Swebonny;39586504]Take the game Mass Effect 3, 93/100 Metascore by 74 critics. Gotta be the best game on this planet right?[/QUOTE]
well, it's obviously not bad
likewise, on the other end of the spectrum, this movie is obviously not good
Just seen it, its horrible.
My friend and a group of other people went to watch it and said it was pretty good, then again he's the kind of person who'd find anything enjoyable if there's enough explosions in it so that might not be a good baseline for me to judge.
I didn't think it was going to be good based on the trailers, I mean they never once mentioned John McClane having a son in any of the movies, and that "yipee kay ey Mother Russia" line was cringeworthy. The plot of John McClane going to Russia and running into his criminal son just seems kinda far-fetched. I heard that basically all of the Die Hard movies weren't written with Die Hard in mind and I can't say I've ever not enjoyed one of them, so with a script made with Die Hard in mind and a director with not such a good track record I'm not surprised it's getting panned.
However, you can't trust reviewers at face value, opinions are naturally biased towards their tastes and everyone has different tastes of course. I find that the huge gap between critic reviews and audience reviews a little weird, so I guess before I decide on seeing it I'll have to really look in depth into the reviews of both critics and fans.
[QUOTE=Solomon;39586599]Does that necessarily make it BAD?[/QUOTE]
Yes
[QUOTE=SleepyAl;39586835]My friend and a group of other people went to watch it and said it was pretty good, then again he's the kind of person who'd find anything enjoyable if there's enough explosions in it so that might not be a good baseline for me to judge.
I didn't think it was going to be good based on the trailers, I mean they never once mentioned John McClane having a son in any of the movies, and that "yipee kay ey Mother Russia" line was cringeworthy. The plot of John McClane going to Russia and running into his criminal son just seems kinda far-fetched. I heard that basically all of the Die Hard movies weren't written with Die Hard in mind and I can't say I've ever not enjoyed one of them, so with a script made with Die Hard in mind and a director with not such a good track record I'm not surprised it's getting panned.
However, you can't trust reviewers at face value, opinions are naturally biased towards their tastes and everyone has different tastes of course. I find that the huge gap between critic reviews and audience reviews a little weird, so I guess before I decide on seeing it I'll have to really look in depth into the reviews of both critics and fans.[/QUOTE]
don't they mention his son in the first movie?
[QUOTE=kanesenpai~;39586133]FP has horrible movie taste. I wouldn't be surprised if there's people here who liked Suckerpunch or something[/QUOTE]
wait what sucker punch is great
[QUOTE=Swebonny;39586504]
Take the game Mass Effect 3, 93/100 Metascore by 74 critics. Gotta be the best game on this planet right?[/QUOTE]
If 74 independent critics are pooled together to give something a 93/100 it's probably pretty good.
Eh, There really isn't much to expect in Diehard films after DH2. They are just generic shoot 'em ups, with bruce willis
[QUOTE=Raidyr;39586979]If 74 independent critics are pooled together to give something a 93/100 it's probably pretty good.[/QUOTE]
Probably... usually
Mass Effect 3 however was not one of those cases.
It's pretty obvious that the ridiculously high ratings were nothing but a business move.
Mass Effect 3 isn't that bad, but it doesn't even hold a candle to other 90+ games (especially being an overall downgrade)
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;39587038]Probably... usually
Mass Effect 3 however was not one of those cases.
It's pretty obvious that the ridiculously high ratings were nothing but a business move.
Mass Effect 3 isn't that bad, but it doesn't even hold a candle to other 90+ games (especially being an overall downgrade)[/QUOTE]
there's not a single critic review on metacritic that's given it mixed or negative
that's an impressive feat, and you can't just say every single one of those was a "business move"
When are they going to make one titled "Old Habits Die Hard" it would be so much better than "A Good Day to Die Hard"
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;39587038]Probably... usually
Mass Effect 3 however was not one of those cases.
It's pretty obvious that the ridiculously high ratings were nothing but a business move.
Mass Effect 3 isn't that bad, but it doesn't even hold a candle to other 90+ games (especially being an overall downgrade)[/QUOTE]
Given recent revelations from a variety of sources it makes sense that maybe one or two of those sources may not be entirely honest in their review but 74 different folks average out to 94 is still pretty impressive.
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