Something was wrong with the Arizona Polls last night
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[QUOTE=Desert Rat;49992241]As an Arizonian I can confirm. Shits fucked here politically, boys.
[editline]23rd March 2016[/editline]
However, knowing Arizona politics, nothings going to get done. Everyone will get away with it and no redo will be held. I can guarantee you that much.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how you could possibly think nothing will be done about this. I just don't see it happening, no way something this big will go swept under the rug without considerable backlash from the public.
If Arizona doesn't do anything about it, the feds will.
Another Arizona resident here. It also didn't help that we only had 60 polling places is my county compared to the 200 we had a few years ago.
the primaries this year are a joke.
so much weird and fraudulent things have been happening, extremely unprofessional
[QUOTE=UnidentifiedFlyingTard;49992395]That's not how Toxx's work.[/QUOTE]
Then why have people toxxed for only a week and then they got banned for only a week when it happened?
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49992659]Then why have people toxxed for only a week and then they got banned for only a week when it happened?[/QUOTE]
some people have decided to start being toxx nazis or whatever and say toxx's are permas only as of late.
[QUOTE=Missy<3;49992678]some people have decided to start being toxx nazis or whatever and say toxx's are permas only as of late.[/QUOTE]
It's not really "toxx nazis" it's that the majority of things haven't actually been toxx's.
A toxx is when you say "If ______ then I will do _____ otherwise perma ban me" nothing else is a toxx. It's not being a "Toxx nazi" to actually go by definitions.
Bump. Is there any updates on this?
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwk2mJg-2BI[/media]
No updates other than outrage.
[QUOTE=reedbo;49992547]Why does this happen? We've got all of the technology to make polling incredibly easy and accurate yet here we are still making people wait at polls and not counting every vote for what reason?[/QUOTE]
Antiquated politicians. And to be honest, it's in many politician's interests to keep things inefficient. Having voting be difficult locks out certain demographics (young, and poor people especially) more than others (rich white retired people can put up with a lot )
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49992692]It's not really "toxx nazis" it's that the majority of things haven't actually been toxx's.
A toxx is when you say "If ______ then I will do _____ otherwise perma ban me" nothing else is a toxx. It's not being a "Toxx nazi" to actually go by definitions.[/QUOTE]
my bad, I'd always been seeing people take day/week/ect toxx's and assumed it was more a "choose your length" deal.
ed: it has only been recently, though, that I've seen people saying "it's perma only"
the 60 polling stations in Maricopa were attempting to serve 20,000 voters each o_o
It looks like there won't be any action taken.
I propose a new way of voting.
Every citizen upon birth will be given a 4096 bit PGP key, and the private key will be kept private like social security cards and birth certificates would be. Besides voting, this identification key would be very useful for other stuff.
When you go to vote, you're given 1 government issued 1GB USB drive (incentive to vote?) and you must upload to it 1 single text file containing a PGP signed message encrypted with the public PGP key of your voting precinct. The message being the name of whoever you cast your vote for. The only person capable of decrypting the message is the precinct, and any voter fraud is basically impossible unless the private key of the victim is known.
You then go into a room with 2 armed guards at monitors closely watching all data being uploaded and downloaded to or from the election computer. The computer is behind 3 inches of concrete followed by 3 inches of lead followed by a thick screen of bulletproof glass. One thin hole through every layer of protection is designated to allowed for a USB male to female cable which has no pin for sending data, only receiving.
When both armed moderators can agree that the entire PGP encrypted message has been stored securely, they will kindly thank you for voting.
There were a pretty large amount of people who mailed in their ballot, right (I heard a significant proportion of voters did, please correct me if I'm wrong and it's like five people)? Without getting into any conspiracy shit, the fact that a large portion of people weren't able to vote on election day (and thus a larger proportion voted via mail-in) would help Clinton, right? I'm just gonna guess that very few youths mailed in their ballot (and I have no statistics on the demographics to actually know that). Pretty sad if it did, though it's already a disgrace that this happened at all.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49993414]There were a pretty large amount of people who mailed in their ballot, right (I heard a significant proportion of voters did, please correct me if I'm wrong and it's like five people)? Without getting into any conspiracy shit, the fact that a large portion of people weren't able to vote on election day (and thus a larger proportion voted via mail-in) would help Clinton, right? I'm just gonna guess that very few youths mailed in their ballot (and I have no statistics on the demographics to actually know that). Pretty sad if it did, though it's already a disgrace that this happened at all.[/QUOTE]
You're correct, but it really wasn't much bigger portion then in the past, 35% compared to 30% in 2008. In any case, the main voter fraud/suppression going on here is that many people were listed as independents or republicans despite the fact that they were actually registered as card carrying democrats, so they weren't allowed to vote. Compounded with this, Maricopa had about 1/4th the polling stations as the county next to them despite the fact they had 4x the population. Each polling station there had to serve about 20 thousand voters. It's insane.
[QUOTE=cody8295;49993364]I propose a new way of voting.
Every citizen upon birth will be given a 4096 bit PGP key, and the private key will be kept private like social security cards and birth certificates would be. Besides voting, this identification key would be very useful for other stuff.
When you go to vote, you're given 1 government issued 1GB USB drive (incentive to vote?) and you must upload to it 1 single text file containing a PGP signed message encrypted with the public PGP key of your voting precinct. The message being the name of whoever you cast your vote for. The only person capable of decrypting the message is the precinct, and any voter fraud is basically impossible unless the private key of the victim is known.
You then go into a room with 2 armed guards at monitors closely watching all data being uploaded and downloaded to or from the election computer. The computer is behind 3 inches of concrete followed by 3 inches of lead followed by a thick screen of bulletproof glass. One thin hole through every layer of protection is designated to allowed for a USB male to female cable which has no pin for sending data, only receiving.
When both armed moderators can agree that the entire PGP encrypted message has been stored securely, they will kindly thank you for voting.[/QUOTE]
I actually want this so I can feel like James fuckin Bond when I vote.
There needs to be a bit where I exchange a computer laptop in a briefcase on a park bench with a stranger as well though please.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49993714]You're correct, but it really wasn't much bigger portion then in the past, 35% compared to 30% in 2008. In any case, the main voter fraud/suppression going on here is the fact that many people were listed as independents or republicans despite the fact that they were actually registered as card carrying democrats, so they weren't allowed to vote. Compounded with this, Maricopa had about 1/4th the polling stations as the county next to them despite the fact they had 4x the population. Each polling station there had to serve about 20 thousand voters. It's insane.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's fucked, still a pretty big percentage.
Im not usually always convinced by the allegations of fuckups in the election process but this seems pretty serious and a major disenfranchisement of thousands of people.
It would be a horrible shame and a disgrace if there wasnt a recount, although I'm sure there probably wont be. This election has a track record of ignoring problems until they go away.
[QUOTE=LSK;49992565]I don't see how you could possibly think nothing will be done about this. I just don't see it happening, no way something this big will go swept under the rug without considerable backlash from the public.
If Arizona doesn't do anything about it, the feds will.[/QUOTE]
Thats politics, my dude. I'm not saying I want nothing to be done, but thats how the cookie crumbles. Especially with this election, its been ripe with corruption and shady happenings.
Besides, the feds have much more pressing matters to attend to, like illegal music piracy, and aliens.
[QUOTE=Desert Rat;49994049]Thats politics, my dude. I'm not saying I want nothing to be done, but thats how the cookie crumbles. Especially with this election, its been ripe with corruption and shady happenings.
Besides, the feds have much more pressing matters to attend to, like illegal music piracy, and aliens.[/QUOTE]
I think that this defeatist attitude of "oh well ~the man~ doesnt care so it's pointless to express grievance, thaats politics!" is the reason that so many of these cases get swept under the rug.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49994122]I think that this defeatist attitude of "oh well ~the man~ doesnt care so it's pointless to express grievance, thaats politics!" is the reason that so many of these cases get swept under the rug.[/QUOTE]
And to a degree I agree with you, but I'm just a 21 year old working at a mortgage firm. I signed the petition, I do what I can, but theres only so much that I, and by extension we, can do. I guess its less of refusal to do anything, and more of a lack of wanting to get my hopes up.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49991627][url]http://usuncut.com/news/arizona-polling-disaster/[/url]
My god. This is disturbing the level this is going to. Even if this is just due to incompetence and not actual election fraud, then that's seriously fucked up...[/QUOTE]
This most be how George Bush got elected.
[QUOTE=proch;49992129]So you, heh, you could say it was all jeb bush like, hehe[/QUOTE]
I don't get it :(
[QUOTE=Desert Rat;49994140]And to a degree I agree with you, but I'm just a 21 year old working at a mortgage firm. I signed the petition, I do what I can, but theres only so much that I, and by extension we, can do. I guess its less of refusal to do anything, and more of a lack of wanting to get my hopes up.[/QUOTE]
At least you did something haha, too many people seek change from our system but don't actively do anything to change it.
[QUOTE=Duck M.;49994550]At least you did something haha, too many people seek change from our system but don't actively do anything to change it.[/QUOTE]
That I can totally understand, and I'm on board with you on. I didn't mean to come off sounding like that kind of person, but I guess I did, which is my own fault.
[QUOTE=Desert Rat;49994654]That I can totally understand, and I'm on board with you on. I didn't mean to come off sounding like that kind of person, but I guess I did, which is my own fault.[/QUOTE]
Ah dont worry about it, its all good. But yeah, it does give off that impression that's all too typical of people disgruntled with the process these days.
[QUOTE=Desert Rat;49994049]Thats politics, my dude. I'm not saying I want nothing to be done, but thats how the cookie crumbles. Especially with this election, its been ripe with corruption and shady happenings.
Besides, the feds have much more pressing matters to attend to, like illegal music piracy, and aliens.[/QUOTE]
I know, I just think something like this is pushing the people a little too far. I could be wrong but I don't think voters would take this sitting down. It is a sad state of affairs though no doubt.
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