[QUOTE=Tuskin;44284998]Chewbacca is 234 (I didn't realize Wookiees lived so long in the EU)[/QUOTE]
Wookies are a very long lived race, surprisingly so. But didn't he [sp]get killed via moon[/sp] around this time as well? Or was that farther down the line?
Can't wait for the plinkett review
[QUOTE=BenJammin';44286233]Can't wait for the plinkett review[/QUOTE]
Fuck you Rick Berman.
To people citing EU sources: This film isn't taking cues from the EU. There will be no moon death. There will (thankfully) be no Mara Jade. Han and Leia's kids will probably not be named Jaden, Jacen, and Anakin. There will be no Thrawn.
The Expanded Universe has no place in Star Wars canon. It's a seperate entity altogether. . .with the exception of Lucas using "Coruscant" in the Prequels, because he couldn't think of a better name.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;44280390]I'm still under the belief that the George Lucas who made the prequels is a impostor and the real one is rotting away in some underground dungeon.
If the Star Wars IP was under my name I'd do a remake of the prequels.[/QUOTE]
That's because George Lucas actually didn't have that much to do with the Original trilogy. His team made it what it is today. If he had full control over Star Wars from the beginning R2-D2 and C3P0 would have been used car salesmen
This won't happen, but I'd love to see some future tech ship, absorb the Deathstar's energy beam and blast it back, due to advancements made since Return of the Jedi.
[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;44286634]To people citing EU sources: This film isn't taking cues from the EU. There will be no moon death. There will (thankfully) be no Mara Jade. Han and Leia's kids will probably not be named Jaden, Jacen, and Anakin. There will be no Thrawn.
The Expanded Universe has no place in Star Wars canon. It's a seperate entity altogether. . .with the exception of Lucas using "Coruscant" in the Prequels, because he couldn't think of a better name.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_Crusher]Bu-but what about this piece of expanded universe GENIUS?![/url]
[quote]The Sun Crusher was a nearly indestructible craft that was no larger than a starfighter, but was capable of unleashing destruction on a magnitude that dwarfed even the Death Star's capabilities. Unlike the Death Star, which destroyed individual planets, the Sun Crusher could destroy an entire star system by causing its target star to turn into a supernova. [/quote]
They somehow managed to make a ship out of pure physical MARY-SUE
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;44288446]I'm so excited for this movie. No matter what happens, it'll be better than the prequels.
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Matter
What[/QUOTE]
I have complete faith in JJ's ability. He didn't ruin Star Trek, I don't think he'll ruin this.
After Star Trek Into Darkness I'm a bit worried but hopefully it will turn out great.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;44288446]I'm so excited for this movie. No matter what happens, it'll be better than the prequels.
No
Matter
What[/QUOTE]
It pretty much has to be. The prequels were literally worse than clownrape and the Holocaust.
[QUOTE=Marden;44289222]After Star Trek Into Darkness I'm a bit worried but hopefully it will turn out great.[/QUOTE]
While I loved Into Darkness there was more than a few things wrong. What seems to be the Case with JJ is every other movie is spectacular.
It WILL be better than the prequels. It's impossible for it NOT to be. Totally better. I mean. . .possibly in the same way being kicked in the dick is "better" than being stabbed repeatedly in the anus. And I'm actually okay with that.
I guess what I'm saying is I'd rather be kicked in the dick by J.J. Abrams that stabbed in the butthole by George Lucas. Again.
God imagine the Plinkett review if it somehow ended up being [I]worse[/I].
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;44286988]That's because George Lucas actually didn't have that much to do with the Original trilogy. His team made it what it is today. If he had full control over Star Wars from the beginning R2-D2 and C3P0 would have been used car salesmen[/QUOTE]
Yeah, George only did the Screenplay and Directed 'A New Hope'
Episodes 5 and 6 he was only the 'story writer' other people directed and did the screenplay,
While Episodes 1-3 were completely George.
Actually, Lucas wrote the core story of Episode IV. It's widely accepted that the finalized screenplay was script doctored (or even ghostwritten) by Alan Dean Foster.
Hell, Lucas didn't even write the iconic opening crawl in A New Hope. Brian DePalma did.
Lucas works best as an idea man. His best films are by far Empire, Jedi, and the first three Indiana Jones films. This is largely due to Lawrence Kasdan scripting Empire and Jedi (SO glad he's scripting Episode VII), with Irvin Kirschner and Richard Marquand directing respectively, and Spielberg having most of the control over Indiana Jones (notice how awful Crystal Skull was. . .also notice that Lucas had total creative control).
George works best when he sits the fuck back, and lets real fimmakers do all the heavy lifting. Kirschner and Marquand know how to work with actors, as does Spielberg. They know that "Hey, you're the actor here. You know how to act. Do your thing how you think your character would do it, and I'll just block out the scene, and give notes where applicable." Whereas Lucas (as noted by every actor he's ever worked with) says "It's on the page! Just read the words I wrote! It's all on the page!"
He doesn't understand the nuances of collaboration. And filmmaking is a hugely collaborative effort. The writer writes. The actors take the written word, and add emotion and humanity. The director directs. Lucas, however, sees it in his head, and wants it exactly as he sees it, with no room for deviation or input.
You can't make movies like that. You can only make disasters, like the prequels.
Edit: A good example of Lucas' failure at working with actors is Mace Windu. A good director looks at Samuel L. Jackson, and says "This guy knows what he's doing. Jackson is intensity personified. Even when speaking softly, he radiates pure intensity. That could work for a Jedi. . .calm on the outside, but with all that intensity bubbling underneath." But Lucas took what should have been a great performance, and had him phone it in. It came across like a guy reading a shopping list. Nothing more than a man droning words. He did the impossible: He made a Samuel L. Jackson role positively dull and flat.
[editline]19th March 2014[/editline]
Also, look at the featurettes for Crystal Skull. You have Lucas going on and on about all his ambitious ideas for it, and how the only way it would truly be his vision is if he did it his way. Then, cut to Spielberg, saying "Yeah, so George says 'How about aliens?' And I'm like, 'Really, George? I've done way too many alien pictures.' But George insisted, and. . ."
The whole time, Spielberg looks like a man defeated. He wants nothing to do with the project. He tried to steer George away from bad decisions, and was ignored. The man seems absolutely ashamed of the finished project.
If I had bought the Star Wars franchise from Lucas I'm pretty sure the first thing I would've done is declared the prequels null and do a reboot of them.
Letting them exist is a crime against humanity.
You know, it's funny. . .Lucas considered the notorious Star Wars Holiday Special to be so awful, he said he wanted to locate every bootleg copy and personally destroy them. And yet, he went on to make the prequels.
[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;44295014]
Also, look at the featurettes for Crystal Skull. You have Lucas going on and on about all his ambitious ideas for it, and how the only way it would truly be his vision is if he did it his way. Then, cut to Spielberg, saying "Yeah, so George says 'How about aliens?' And I'm like, 'Really, George? I've done way too many alien pictures.' But George insisted, and. . ."
The whole time, Spielberg looks like a man defeated. He wants nothing to do with the project. He tried to steer George away from bad decisions, and was ignored. The man seems absolutely ashamed of the finished project.[/QUOTE]
I had no idea about that part. I have Crystal Skull on DVD but thats only to complete the collection, I have not even removed it from the plastic.
[QUOTE=Tuskin;44298743]I had no idea about that part. I have Crystal Skull on DVD but thats only to complete the collection, I have not even removed it from the plastic.[/QUOTE]
See if you can find the featurettes on YouTube. Listen to Spielberg talk about working with George this time around. He never comes out and says "I mean, what the fuck was he thinking? ALIENS? Lucas is positively fucking BATSHIT, man!" He's polite the entire time. But he talks about how weird Lucas' decisions for the film were, about how much he disagreed, and gives off this air of "The [i]fuck did I put my name on?!"[/i]
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