Iran Launches a Website Claiming the Holocaust Was a Lie
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[QUOTE=famasfanalt;23866970]This is fucking disgusting.[/QUOTE]
It's Iran, what did you expect?
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;23845205]Ha. Dumbasses.
My ancestors got cooked alive, fuck you Iran.[/QUOTE]
My grandfather was drafted into service with the Germans. He was also among the few to survive being a Pow in Siberia.
Some iranian guy =/= Iran.
wow really there are still some people that dont believe the holocaust happened ? how thick do you have to be honestly
The Holocaust is obviously a lie.
And the world is obviously flat.
[QUOTE=David29;23867983]The Holocaust is obviously a lie.
And the world is obviously flat.[/QUOTE]
And this title is misleading
great job on the title BurnEmDown
so if a few Israelis who have no affiliation with the government do something bad, it's Israel doing it?
I just realized how ironic my avatar is
I like satire.
So sorry for not trying to change the original article's name too much, sheesh. If you want to complain, complain to Haaretz.
And even though the group that launched this website isn't government-funded, anything like this in Iran must be approved by the government. If you doubt the government had any hand in this or isn't supporting this, you are seriously naive.
fuck u Iran, I'm jewish
[QUOTE=JDK721;23868913]great job on the title BurnEmDown
so if a few Israelis who have no affiliation with the government do something bad, it's Israel doing it?[/QUOTE]
That was the name of the article itself...?
I'm not surprised at the propaganda that countries in the middle east just pour out
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23845358]Well it's not a few people either, it's a cultural foundation. They must have some influence in Iran. The comics in the website are taken from a book, I bet they're selling this book and promoting the website all over the country.
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They claim that it was all staged by the Jews for money and so that they can claim Palestine as their own.[/QUOTE]
watch as burnemdown desperately tries to tie the Iranian government to this website. you're a fucking joke, man
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[QUOTE=bigbigzubra;23879527]I'm not surprised at the propaganda that countries in the middle east just pour out[/QUOTE]
do you know what propaganda is?
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23845495][B]I never claimed it was the Iranian government,[/B] but according to the article it seems like the group has some influence on the country culturally.[/QUOTE]
title: "[B]Iran [/B]Launches a Website Claiming the Holocaust Was a Lie"
and lol, the article does not, in anyway link to that
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[QUOTE=A Dead Guy;23845805][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C-cqw2s00[/media]
Are you seriously that naive?[/QUOTE]
just ignore the large investigation by reuters
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[QUOTE=Heartboy;23846328]You liar, Go back in your cave troll.
The holocaust never existed.[/QUOTE]
nazi trolling is so fucking old
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[QUOTE=Arrows;23846376]Typical Muslims.[/QUOTE]
Christians deny it too, buddy
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[QUOTE=ohadje;23852637]The sad part is that you actually believe that.[/QUOTE]
ohadje with his content less arguments, as usual.
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[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23852687]Ah aha ha ha what? Did you even glance at the article? Where the hell did you get the idea it was some sort of archeological conference?
Yup that sure sounds like a bunch of historians and scientists working to uncover lost relics, cause you know, David Duke is a first-class historian, and totally not a bigoted, denialist Klan leader or anything.
Man all those world governments must HATE archeology!
EDIT:
Find out the truth of the holocaust = your idea, right then[/QUOTE]
Also many Jews who condemn holocaust denial attended the conference
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mainly these fellas
[url]http://jfjfp.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=RacistRace;23852781][b]Islam is a lie![/b]
All the Iranian's are doing is insulting the jews like every other muslim country.
The Americans,Russians and canadians have PROOF that it happened.[b]
WARNING: Don't View if you do not have a strong stomach![/b]
You have been warned.
Evidence A!
[url]http://earthhopenetwork.net/holocaust_stacked_bodies.jpg[/url]
Evidence B!
[url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S-tlnM_5_pI/AAAAAAAAHaM/S-OatDU2H-8/s400/holocaust-mass-grave.jpg[/url]
And Evidence C!
[url]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_03/auschwitzEPA_468x330.jpg[/url][/QUOTE]
ignoring your ignorant first part of your post:
i've argued a many of times against holocaust deniers, and their main argument is that the jews who died were not killed but died from typhus or some bullshit like that. They even claim many of the corpses are German Christians
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[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;23852900]What in the fuck are you even talking about? First you came up with the asinine idea this had to do with relics and shit, now you're just pointing out censorship? I agree that making holocaust denial illegal is somewhat wrong, but that doesn't change the fact that David Duke and half the other participants are reprehensible bigots who deny clearly established history. You're just trying to salvage some semblance of a valid point after I showed how wrong you were.[/QUOTE]
David Duke is an asshole and a bigot, but i'm p. sure he never denied the holocaust.
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[QUOTE=Egevened;23861578]The Holocaust has been used as propaganda positive for jewish people, and you know it.
The guy above you? His ancestors did get cooked alive, sure. Condolences.[/quote]
I agree with this, but that's about it.
[quote]But "all on film and picture"? That's just ridicilous.
Now, you know, documentaries usually have diverse numbers on actual victims and how many people got cremated. Funny thing is, I have an acquaintance who happens to have a job of cremating people. He told me that it takes approximately 7 hours for a human body to become ash.
The Nazi death camps barely had any space to "produce" a million dead jews from cooking them in ovens. There's just simply not enough space, mathematically.
Now I'm not saying that there was no injustice and I'm not denying the Holocaust because it happened, millions of people died. But even the millions are blown out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
This is retarded: the numbers were not just from fucking bodies and judging the size of camps. it's from documents and the like.
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[QUOTE=bugfix;23867031]It's Iran, what did you expect?[/QUOTE]
it's a group in iran you tool
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;23873507]So sorry for not trying to change the original article's name too much, sheesh. If you want to complain, complain to Haaretz.
And even though the group that launched this website isn't government-funded, anything like this in Iran must be approved by the government. If you doubt the government had any hand in this or isn't supporting this, you are seriously naive.[/QUOTE]
...you have no clue what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23888564]
Also many Jews who condemn holocaust denial attended the conference
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mainly these fellas
[URL]http://jfjfp.com/[/URL]
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David Duke is an asshole and a bigot, but i'm p. sure he never denied the holocaust.
[/QUOTE]
I'll give you that the conference wasn't all deniers, but some good participants doesn't change the fact that the conference was mostly about revisionism.
And Duke may not be an outright "holocaust never happened" guy, but from what i've seen, he argues against the gas chambers being used and all the usual revisionism crap. He got arrested in Prague for (suspicion of) holocaust denial: [url]http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2009/fall/czech-republic/austria[/url] and the SPLC labels him as a denier: [url]http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/david-duke[/url] so idk, i'd go with that.
the conference was about reviewing the facts. Yes, it was about dissent and a huge portion was about Israel, but it was not about revisionism.
There is no evidence Duke is a denier. I don't think he is. It wouldn't surprise me. doesn't make him less of an asshole, but i don't think he's a denier
[QUOTE=Warhol;23888564]title: "[B]Iran [/B]Launches a Website Claiming the Holocaust Was a Lie"
and lol, the article does not, in anyway link to that[/quote][url=http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/iran-launches-cartoon-website-aimed-at-questioning-the-holocaust-1.306180]Go to the source[/url], title reads "Iran launches cartoon website aimed at questioning the Holocaust", description of website changed but it is still mentioned as Iran. Haaretz is the one that says Iran in the title.
burnemdown typed out that title, so he didn't read the article or he thinks iran is denying the holocaust, which wouldn't surprise me if he thought that.
I love how laughable the logic of holocaust deniers is.
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S-tlnM_5_pI/AAAAAAAAHaM/S-OatDU2H-8/s400/holocaust-mass-grave.jpg[/img]
HURR DURR ALL OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE FAKED. AND THE NAZlS JUST WENT ALONG WITH IT FOR THE LULZ
I already described the excuse deniers use.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23889616]burnemdown typed out that title, so he didn't read the article or he thinks iran is denying the holocaust, which wouldn't surprise me if he thought that.[/QUOTE]
I only changed the last part, didn't want to stick to the main title too much. I usually change a part of the title of the main article - take a look: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=979218[/url], [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=970478[/url], [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=963875[/url], [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=967675[/url], [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=962227[/url], [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=960399[/url].
Looking back at all the news threads I've posted, nearly all of them have a slightly different title than the original article.
I try to change the title in a way that people who aren't too knowledgeable on the topic can understand what's going on, like changing "Barak and Abbas to meet for direct peace talks", I wrote "Israeli defense minister and Palestinian PM to meet for direct peace talks".
So no, Haaretz claimed it's Iran, and I never claimed specifically it was the Iranian government, you sir, are wrong.
What the FUCK.
My father has been into the remains of one of the death camps. He said it was really, REALLY freaky and scary. Apparently, the steps are still warm. But thats probably just suspicion.
Not to mention the goal of the Nazi party was (basically) to exterminate all the people who werent normal, such as people with mental difficulties, people with psysical difficulties (like being bound to a wheel chair, for example.) and all of the Jews in germany/the world.
How can they deny that, even when ministers of the nazi party, escapees, witnesses and even papers written by Hitler himself, claim that the 'final solution' was put into action?
/rant
(I didnt google this, im just assuming that they found Hitler's shit.)
wow, a cartoon that's even less true than a chick tract
and i thought that was physically impossible
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[QUOTE=Egevened;23861578]The Holocaust has been used as propaganda positive for jewish people, and you know it.
The guy above you? His ancestors did get cooked alive, sure. Condolences.
But "all on film and picture"? That's just ridicilous.
Now, you know, documentaries usually have diverse numbers on actual victims and how many people got cremated. Funny thing is, I have an acquaintance who happens to have a job of cremating people. He told me that it takes approximately 7 hours for a human body to become ash.
The Nazi death camps barely had any space to "produce" a million dead jews from cooking them in ovens. There's just simply not enough space, mathematically.
Now I'm not saying that there was no injustice and I'm not denying the Holocaust because it happened, millions of people died. But even the millions are blown out of proportion.[/QUOTE]
Cremation is a ceremonial process.
The Nazis were trying to kill as many people as quickly as possible. It was instituted and well orchestrated mass murder.
And they didn't fucking burn everyone you twit, it's called mass graves.
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[QUOTE=Pinkerton;23867119]My grandfather was drafted into service with the Germans. He was also among the few to survive being a Pow in Siberia.[/QUOTE]
Should've made like Einstein and Lang and scampered.
[img]http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6691/1281117341662.jpg[/img]
This seems fitting to me for reason
We all agree the holocaust was horrible, but that's no excuse for those bulldozers Isreal is using today.
I don't see any point in denieing the holocaust either, it happened and we can't change that anymore, we can only change the future we live in.
[QUOTE=ToXiCsoldier;23897357]We all agree the holocaust was horrible, but that's no excuse for those bulldozers Isreal is using today.
I don't see any point in denieing the holocaust either, it happened and we can't change that anymore, we can only change the future we live in.[/QUOTE]
Most of the holocaust deniers I know, don't even deny the holocaust.
If you only disagree with a small part and are pointing it out to others that it [B]could[/B] be wrong, you are already counted as some one that denies the holocaust.
[img_thumb]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3926654/Reactions/emot-byodood.png[/img_thumb]
This is really the only reaction I am capable of displaying.
[QUOTE=Spacewolf;23865450]I don't get people like this, it's like saying the moon doesn't exist, it's right in front of you, just because you say it's not doesn't change anything.[/QUOTE]
No, it's like saying [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley's_comet"]this thing[/URL] is a NASA conspiracy to cover up the 3/4-century reptillian alien overlord summit held at the invisible fucking space station above the Giza Necropolis. I find myself going about the day thinking "I have seen so many stupid shit humanity you can't surprise me anymore." I'm getting tired of being proven wrong.