George Zimmerman emerges from hiding to help crash victim - Polidicks

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41554561]it's pretty gross how easy it is for you guys to laugh off potential domestic violence if it was murder I doubt you'd be saying this[/QUOTE] Ifs don't count for shit. What if Zimmerman was literally Hitler? What if Zimmerman murdered 14 babies and then clubbed a bunch of seals? Saying, "What if" doesn't make your point more valid. It just makes you look like a fool grasping at straws. We've all done shit we regret; that doesn't mean you should forever be judged and labeled by a poor choice you made.

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555331]not doing that! thanks for playing though.[/QUOTE] you literally called people dumbasses and insulted their intelligence if that is not slanderous and abusive, I don't know what is. sorry that I paid attention in school and you didn't.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;41555273] They all say that so they aren't liable for any damages caused[/QUOTE] no they say that so you don't fucking paralyze someone because you don't know what you're doing but I forgot you guys are armchair professionals at fucking [I]everything [/I]and know better than actual trained professionals

[QUOTE=Bredirish123;41555339]Ifs don't count for shit. What if Zimmerman was literally Hitler? What if Zimmerman murdered 14 babies and then clubbed a bunch of seals? Saying, "What if" doesn't make your point more valid. It just makes you look like a fool grasping at straws. We've all done shit we regret; that doesn't mean you should forever be judged and labeled by a poor choice you made.[/QUOTE] And yet people still give Chris brown shit for the same thing. What's the difference?

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555394]no they say that so you don't fucking paralyze someone because you don't know what you're doing[/QUOTE] That's what they want you to think, and it is an unfortunate occasion when it happens, but the reality of it is when someone fucks up per a legal authority's advice, the legal authority gets in trouble. Zimmerman pulled people out of a car wreck that had literally no injuries, so it's pretty fucking hard to demonize him in this specific instance.

[QUOTE=mark6789;41554389]He just did it to look good/restore his reputation![/QUOTE] It was all staged!

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555394]no they say that so you don't fucking paralyze someone because you don't know what you're doing[/QUOTE] Um actually, protocol is actually right, if you attempt to save someone and injure them in the process, you can be held accountable, so they tell you not to do so. Can you please respond to people which are refuting what you say, and not just rate them dumb?

I really don't see the point in arguing over whether or not it was okay for him to rescue the guy from the vehicle. Sure, if we could debate during the point in time when he was still deliberating over whether or not he should save the guy, both sides could present points, and yes, it is dangerous to the rescuee to be pulled out of a vehicle by someone inexperienced. HOWEVER, no matter how incorrectly he could have handled it, he improved the situation regardless. We can't argue fact that he handled it incorrectly, but we also cannot argue the fact that he improved the situation from 'dude possibly dead' to 'dude definitely not dead'.

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555394]but I forgot you guys are armchair professionals at fucking [I]everything [/I]and know better than actual trained professionals[/QUOTE] You're one to talk about hypocrisy. Good God.

ah yes a man who stalks a 17 year old kid in his own community and kills him what an upstanding citizen

[QUOTE=Protocol7;41555414]That's what they want you to think, and it is an unfortunate occasion when it happens, but the reality of it is when someone fucks up per a legal authority's advice, the legal authority gets in trouble. Zimmerman pulled people out of a car wreck that had literally no injuries, so it's pretty fucking hard to demonize him in this specific instance.[/QUOTE] did he know there were no injuries at the time? was he absolutely sure he was not pinned? truthfully we don't know. But if there were no injuries, it's safe to say there was also no urgency. If there was no urgency, he should have left it alone. Additionally, if we can't demonize him, why can we praise him? Apparently the accident wasn't that bad or urgent. You need to get it out of your head that I'm trying to demonize him. I'm just saying you're overblowing this shit, giving undue praise, and generally doing what you all whined about with Trayvon.

this whole case is fucking stupid.

[QUOTE=KorJax;41554410]Actually surprised how positive the comments are in the article Seems like people might be starting to get over the fact that zimmerman wasn't really the bad guy the media wanted him to be[/QUOTE] Most traybots don't know how to work a computer. They only go on fb.

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555461]did he know there were no injuries at the time? was he absolutely sure he was not pinned? truthfully we don't know. But if there were no injuries, it's safe to say there was also no urgency. If there was no urgency, he should have left it alone. Additionally, if we can't demonize him, why can we praise him? Apparently the accident wasn't that bad or urgent.[/QUOTE] You haven't read the article, so please stop posting. There is no "he." There is "them." [QUOTE]Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of a family of four -- two parents and two children -- trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Protocol7;41555457]You're one to talk about hypocrisy. Good God.[/QUOTE] Need I remind you I'm literally a room away from a medical professional?

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555489]Need I remind you I'm literally a room away from a medical professional?[/QUOTE] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote[/URL]

[QUOTE=Panda X;41554376]I wonder how many people will just say something along the lines "He just did it to look good/restore his reputation".[/QUOTE] A certain community will despise no matter what he does after all this race baiting. Luckily we know people by what they do more than what is said about them.

[QUOTE=Bobsters34;41555459]ah yes a man who stalks a 17 year old kid in his own community and kills him what an upstanding citizen[/QUOTE] Yeah I know right, getting your head beat down on the concrete for following someone is a perfectly reasonable reaction that Trayvon had, and then Zimmerman had to worry about dying or something and murdered him in cold blood! Don't you just hate it when people defend themselves?

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555461]did he know there were no injuries at the time? was he absolutely sure he was not pinned? truthfully we don't know. But if there were no injuries, it's safe to say there was also no urgency. If there was no urgency, he should have left it alone. [B]Additionally, if we can't demonize him, why can we praise him?[/B][/QUOTE] What. [QUOTE] Apparently the accident wasn't that bad or urgent.[/QUOTE] You can be in a crash that the aftermath is more dangerous than the actual crash was. Fuel fires, injuries due to panicking and such.

[QUOTE=Mexican;41555461]did he know there were no injuries at the time? was he absolutely sure he was not pinned? truthfully we don't know. But if there were no injuries, it's safe to say there was also no urgency. If there was no urgency, he should have left it alone. [/QUOTE] I'd say it's pretty urgent regarding the fact that overturned vehicles have a high chance of spilling fuel onto itself and then igniting what is in the engine, causing an explosion. If that car exploded, the guy inside would be pretty messed up, if not dead.

[QUOTE=deadoon;41555437]Um actually, protocol is actually right, if you attempt to save someone and injure them in the process, you can be held accountable, so they tell you not to do so. Can you please respond to people which are refuting what you say, and not just rate them dumb?[/QUOTE] I know that you can be held accountable, and for good reason. It's dangerous. You being held accountable isn't the important part the important part is knowing your place and not putting fellow people in danger. no one is refuting anything. they agree that you are told not to pull people out. they just also think you should ignore professional medical advice. there is no refuting that. that opinion won't change. also I'm in a mountain of boxes soooo [editline]22nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Protocol7;41555498][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote[/URL][/QUOTE] nope cause it means unlike you I have a professional opinion on the matter and you have shit not an anecdote.

[QUOTE=deadoon;41555437]Um actually, protocol is actually right, if you attempt to save someone and injure them in the process, you can be held accountable, so they tell you not to do so.[/QUOTE] yeah. As mentioned before though, if you had to choose between potentially tweaking their spine or just sitting there watching them burn alive there's a change in priorities now can all you dinkbags stop flaming each other? This is cool and amazing of him, and this is insanely small of a chance such a thing would happen to a nationally known dude just days after shit hit the fan about his verdict saving a guy from a car doesn't erase what did or did not happen in his past. It isn't like some see-saw of good and bad balancing themselves out, he now has +1 good citizen brownie point and +1 hunting down and shooting a kid (in self defense(??))

[QUOTE=privatesmily;41555410]And yet people still give Chris brown shit for the same thing. What's the difference?[/QUOTE] for some reason facepunch can all come together in condemning chris brown for domestic violence but because zimmerman's some supposed hero on here we can all just laugh it off as simply "regrettable" and forgive him for some reason I just don't get it

For what it's worth, I think Zimmerman's a cop wannabe doing cop wannabe things. It's not illegal to be a cop wannabe, just stupid.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;41555532] now can all you dinkbags stop flaming each other?[/QUOTE] they started it daijitsu I swear!!!!!!

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41555533]for some reason facepunch can all come together in condemning chris brown for domestic violence but because zimmerman's some supposed hero on here we can all just laugh it off as simply "regrettable" that we can forgive him for for some reason [/QUOTE] Defending yourself when a guy is smashing your head into the pavement can't be compared to beating up your girlfriend during an argument.

[QUOTE=Protocol7;41555542]For what it's worth, I think Zimmerman's a cop wannabe doing cop wannabe things. It's not illegal to be a cop wannabe, just stupid.[/QUOTE] that's exactly what I'm saying too cept this time it was an EMT wannabe and had a (thankfully) better outcome [editline]22nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MisterMooth;41555533]for some reason facepunch can all come together in condemning chris brown for domestic violence but because zimmerman's some supposed hero on here we can all just laugh it off as something that's simply "regrettable" that we can forgive him for for some reason I just don't get it[/QUOTE] not at all a race thing nope no sir not here we are post racial in fact if you imply it's a race thing we'll find a way to spin it so you're the racist afterall, Zimmerman is [I]hispanic[/I]! Never mind the fact that I never would have known had I not been told

If anyone wants a good laugh, check out the TrayvonMartin facebook page, it looks like almost all the traybots over there are claiming this event was just a PR stunt pulled off by George's father.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41555554]Defending yourself when a guy is smashing your head into the pavement can't be compared to beating up your girlfriend during an argument.[/QUOTE] domestic violence~ Zimmerman was a violent partner who had a restraining order placed on him by this women a while ago

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41555554]Defending yourself when a guy is smashing your head into the pavement can't be compared to beating up your girlfriend during an argument.[/QUOTE] this is where the case gets really hairy because he actively pursued the kid and approached him, and at some point it became a fight. If there was threat of violence against the kid, by all means he has the right to defend [i]him[/i]self against Zimmerman, especially if he knew there was a gun (which it's claimed zimmerman had it holstered/hidden until they were on the ground I think) Also hasn't it been pretty contested about the whole head smashing thing? Like he had scrapes and open wounds but there wasn't bruising or lumps, which you'd expect from "smashing". I'd liken that more to scraping along on top of a rock or something