• George Zimmerman emerges from hiding to help crash victim
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[QUOTE=daijitsu;41555594]this is where the case gets really hairy because he actively pursued the kid and approached him, and at some point it became a fight. If there was threat of violence against the kid, by all means he has the right to defend [i]him[/i]self against Zimmerman, especially if he knew there was a gun (which it's claimed zimmerman had it holstered/hidden until they were on the ground I think) Also hasn't it been pretty contested about the whole head smashing thing? Like he had scrapes and open wounds but there wasn't bruising or lumps, which you'd expect from "smashing". I'd liken that more to scraping along on top of a rock or something[/QUOTE] Sure it's contested, but the prosecution itself admitted that the wounds were consistent with smashing, so the prosecution really shot itself in the foot. Some say it's a textbook case of justice system racism, but awful prosecution is not racism, it's just horrible legal work.
[QUOTE=Mexican;41555519]I know that you can be held accountable, and for good reason. It's dangerous. You being held accountable isn't the important part the important part is knowing your place and not putting fellow people in danger. no one is refuting anything. they agree that you are told not to pull people out. they just also think you should ignore professional medical advice. there is no refuting that. that opinion won't change. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=deadoon;41555288]So saving people is not "meaningful"? Guess we should abolish the police, ambulance and fire department then. We do not know enough to say whether he did the right thing or not. If it was on fire he is supposed to attempt to get them out. We merely have an article that is based upon a police report that is likely incomplete.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] also I'm in a mountain of boxes soooo [/QUOTE] Some people just rate, you have proven yourself to be an active part of the conversation, hence the comment. [QUOTE] nope cause it means unlike you I have a professional opinion on the matter and you have shit not an anecdote.[/QUOTE] Based on what you said, you are not the professional, thus [B]your [/B]opinion is not, it is merely a mimicry of a professional opinion.
[QUOTE=privatesmily;41555410]And yet people still give Chris brown shit for the same thing. What's the difference?[/QUOTE] From my understanding, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Chris Brown also sort of glorify it a bit? Especially after he got a tattoo of what is presumed to be Rhianna's battered face
If the rescuer was just another nobody I'm almost sure there wouldn't be as much arguing.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41555533]for some reason facepunch can all come together in condemning chris brown for domestic violence but because zimmerman's some supposed hero on here we can all just laugh it off as simply "regrettable" and forgive him for some reason I just don't get it[/QUOTE] Because when one or two dudes downplay domestic violence, then clearly everyone agrees. some guy was representing me and i wasn't even aware of it
[QUOTE=deadoon;41555627] Based on what you said, you are not the professional, thus [B]your [/B]opinion is not, it is merely a mimicry of a professional opinion.[/QUOTE] yeah I know I am not a professional and would never be making an argument like this had I not a professional source to verify with this is the difference between me and you guys here
how do you even flip a suv and stage injuries wat
[QUOTE=Mexican;41555677]yeah I know I am not a professional and would never be making an argument like this had I not a professional source to verify with this is the difference between me and you guys here[/QUOTE] What are you doing? I merely was correcting you in that you should have said in his opinion not your opinion. [QUOTE=Jtg811;41555689]how do you even flip a suv and stage injuries wat[/QUOTE] Very carefully.
[QUOTE=Lamar;41555568]If anyone wants a good laugh, check out the TrayvonMartin facebook page, it looks like almost all the traybots over there are claiming this event was just a PR stunt pulled off by George's father.[/QUOTE] to be fair if you check any facebook page, youtube video or twitter post about this topic on any side it's going to be chock full of conspiracist bullshit and commenters with the mental capacity of preschoolers the difference is how fast you're going to get banned from making any zimmerman threads again
The court case is shit and people shouldn't call him a hero or a villain unless there was solid proof
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;41555717]The court case is shit and people shouldn't call him a hero or a villain unless there was solid proof[/QUOTE] or maybe just maybe he's neither
[QUOTE=SexualShark;41555595]NWO PLOT[/QUOTE] IQ of 183
[QUOTE=Deep;41555644]Because when one or two dudes downplay domestic violence, then clearly everyone agrees. some guy was representing me and i wasn't even aware of it[/QUOTE] the ratings clearly sway in their favour plus I don't see many people condemning it
[QUOTE=synthiac;41555735]One sample is not representative.[/QUOTE] it's not an opinion it's a policy a well known one at that no one (as far as i know?) is arguing the policy doesn't exist anymore the argument is now "you should ignore it"
I hope the guy he rescued was black. Oh god, the media reaction would be priceless.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;41554667]she swung first, obviously! :downs:[/QUOTE] According to US government statistics, women are the cause of around 70% of domestic abuse. Men are much more likely to escalate the situation, but considerably less likely to make it a situation in the first place.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;41555792]According to US government statistics, women are the cause of around 70% of domestic abuse. Men are much more likely to escalate the situation, but considerably less likely to make it a situation in the first place.[/QUOTE] Doesn't surprise me, but is a very interesting fact. I was making a self-defense joke, but this is also informative.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;41555792]According to US government statistics, women are the cause of around 70% of domestic abuse. Men are much more likely to escalate the situation, but considerably less likely to make it a situation in the first place.[/QUOTE] source? (sounds like bullshit, unless you consider starting it "she wouldn't shut up so I hit her!!")
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;41555742]the ratings clearly sway in their favour plus I don't see many people condemning it[/QUOTE] I really have no clue what to say about it so I do not respond, for example I do not know the severity nor do I know the circumstances, thus it is not something I am willing to formulate a static opinion on due to I know that doing so will influence my thoughts on it in the future. Simple? No circumstances to relate to, thus no opinion. Some people presume the worst, some presume the best. There are more optimistic people here than pessimistic I'd say.
UPDATE: It was not a guy. It was an entire family from reports we are getting near Sanford. (I live near sanford)
[QUOTE=NoDachi;41555733]or maybe he's neither[/QUOTE] Well if you save go out of your way to save a life you're a hero.
That car deserves justice #justice4ford
[QUOTE=Mexican;41555834]source? (sounds like bullshit, unless you consider starting it "she wouldn't shut up so I hit her!!")[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_domestic_violence[/url] Citations 31-35, and violence against men sections should hold you over. Men receive less overall injuries, but respond with more force, this causes the statistics to be somewhat skewed.
Why exactly are we arguing over this? He helped out a person(s) in trouble, and ended up making the situation better. His past is irrelevant, along with the giant media/legal clusterfuck he's in. Sure he could have botched the rescue and left the situation off worse, but that didn't happen. You don't exactly have time to learn the ins and outs of the policies behind rescues when you see someone who could very possibly die within the next 5 minutes. What I'm trying to say here is, he wanted to help a fellow human out. No matter the intentions, I think that deserves some commendation.
[QUOTE=deadoon;41555972][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_domestic_violence[/url] Citations 31-35, and violence against men sections should hold you over. Men receive less overall injuries, but respond with more force, this causes the statistics to be somewhat skewed.[/QUOTE] [quote]Kimmel argues that among various other flaws, the CTS is particularly vulnerable to reporting bias because it depends on asking people to accurately remember and report what happened during the past year. Men tend to underestimate their use of violence, while women tend to overestimate their use of violence. Simultaneously men tend to overestimate their partner's use of violence while women tend to underestimate their partner's use of violence. Thus, men will likely overestimate their victimization, while women tend to underestimate theirs. Similarly, the National Institute of Justice states that some studies finding equal or greater frequency of abuse by women against men are based on data compiled through the Conflict Tactics Scale. This survey tool was developed in the 1970s and may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence. Furthermore, the NIJ contends that national surveys supported by NIJ, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Bureau of Justice Statistics that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women.[/quote] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men[/url]
[QUOTE=Mexican;41555098]He could set the orphanage on fire and you'd worship him[/QUOTE] Hey man, don't hate, those babies were going to kill him!
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;41555953]That car deserves justice #justice4ford[/QUOTE] Oh god, I can see that hashtag being used in relation to the mayor of Toronto.
[QUOTE=Mexican;41555098]He could set the orphanage on fire and you'd worship him[/QUOTE] What the fuck. [editline]22nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Jtg811;41555689]how do you even flip a suv and stage injuries wat[/QUOTE] Professional stuntmen obviously.
[QUOTE=scout1;41554468]Domestic abuse is now "regrettable"? Really...[/QUOTE] Why cant it be regrettable?
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