Despite House approval, health care reform faces tough battle - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;18347587] Polls show that the majority of Americans want health reform and public insurance, so to counter that they're doing everything they can to paint themselves as "Just ordinary people like you," when they're anything but.[/QUOTE] Polls are becoming as unreliable as the Democrats and Republicans. You claim polls will, and some do, state that the health care bill is approved by the majority but [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/november_2009/42_support_health_care_reform_after_release_of_pelosi_s_version]others show the opposite, showing an even or higher opposition to the health care reform.[/url]

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;18359522]Have you seen any of the protest footage? It's almost 100% middle aged white people, old enough to have grown up in the overwhelming paranoia of the Cold War. I think the Right knows that demographic still has a knee-jerk reaction of nationalistic hatred any time someone mentions communism or socialism.[/QUOTE] True. Also, relevant picture: [img]http://incredimazing.com/static/media/2009/08/13/Leftvsconservatards/leftvsconservatards.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Taishu;18362479]True. Also, relevant picture: [/QUOTE] Hippies are not patriots. [img]http://www.capmag.com/images2y346y/comics/cf/NewRorschach-X.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362617]Hippies are not patriots.[/QUOTE] Patriotism isn't necessarily a positive thing.

[QUOTE=Taishu;18362644]Patriotism isn't necessarily a positive thing.[/QUOTE] It's better than ranting about how much you hate your country.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362656]It's better than ranting about how much you hate your country.[/QUOTE] I don't think they hate their country. In fact, I think most of them want to improve it.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362656]It's better than ranting about how much you hate your country.[/QUOTE] Right, we should blindly support the administration's efforts to steal oil from brown people, because if we don't, we're UN-AMURICAN!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;18364860]Right, we should blindly support the administration's efforts to steal oil from brown people, because if we don't, we're UN-AMURICAN!!!!!![/QUOTE] Administration != Country

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18364914]Administration != Country[/QUOTE] That didn't stop the administration and their supporters from declaring the opposition to be freedom-hating, godless commie America...uh, haters.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362617]Hippies are not patriots. [img]http://www.capmag.com/images2y346y/comics/cf/NewRorschach-X.gif[/img][/QUOTE] cue the conservative calling the leftist 'hippies' un-american :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Conscript;18365280]cue the conservative calling the leftist 'hippies' un-american :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] No different than Taishu's picture calling the right un-American. :v:

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18365317]No different than Taishu's picture calling the right un-American. :v:[/QUOTE] i don't see where it calls them un-american

[QUOTE]Patriotism isn't necessarily a positive thing.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]It's better than ranting about how much you hate your country[/QUOTE] What do americans have to be patriotic about? it's only 200 years old and already rapes 3rd world countries for their oil.

[QUOTE=Conscript;18365357]i don't see where it calls them un-american[/QUOTE] People on the right like killing people in wars and keep people at home from surviving medically, according to the picture.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18365697]People on the right like killing people in wars and keep people at home from surviving medically, according to the picture.[/QUOTE] still don't see the left calling them un-american. they could be calling them stupid though

[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;18346765][img]http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111209/content/01125110.Par.89380.ImageFile.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That's... not really how it works. [QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;18362122]Polls are becoming as unreliable as the Democrats and Republicans. You claim polls will, and some do, state that the health care bill is approved by the majority but [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/november_2009/42_support_health_care_reform_after_release_of_pelosi_s_version]others show the opposite, showing an even or higher opposition to the health care reform.[/url][/QUOTE] heh... Nice source you got there. [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362617]Hippies are not patriots. [img]http://www.capmag.com/images2y346y/comics/cf/NewRorschach-X.gif[/img][/QUOTE] yes because a newspaper cartoon means something. Why do you still post? Even though you know for a fact, you're always for the most part wrong [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362656]It's better than ranting about how much you hate your country.[/QUOTE] It's nice to see you ignore the arguments of the oppostion and make up your own. [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18365317]No different than Taishu's picture calling the right un-American. :v:[/QUOTE] No one called them unamerican. Just fucking crazy and backwards [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18365697]People on the right like killing people in wars and keep people at home from surviving medically, according to the picture.[/QUOTE] uh... kind of. Iraq and pro-HMO's... yeah, I'd say you were right but still, that picture wasn't implying it, you're just bias and looking too much into it

ITT: It's American to be delusional and it's unamerican to see the problem. I guess Martin Luther King is the most unamerican of all men.

he would be, by today's standards. he was a socialist, after all.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362617]Hippies are not patriots. [img]http://www.capmag.com/images2y346y/comics/cf/NewRorschach-X.gif[/img][/QUOTE] descent is the highest form of patriotic this might be one of the most shameful posts i have ever read on these forums, you should probably take a good hard look at yourself and why you hate people who have voices dissenting from your own [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18365317]No different than Taishu's picture calling the right un-American. :v:[/QUOTE] the picture does not state or even imply this however it does state one truth: conservatives and the right-wing hate life itself (when it does not serve the war or political machine) [QUOTE=Conscript;18366959]he would be, by today's standards. he was a socialist, after all.[/QUOTE] it was either FOX or the GOP website (i forget) which claimed MLK jr. was actually a republican, which is absolutely hilarious

[QUOTE=Urkel01;18366994] however it does state one truth: conservatives and the right-wing hate life itself (when it does not serve the war or political machine)[/QUOTE] Yeah, they hate life so much they're against abortions. :downs:

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18367337]Yeah, they hate life so much they're against abortions. :downs:[/QUOTE] As I said, they support life when it supports the war or political machine. Conservatives like to pretend that abortion is a moral matter, when it is really about punishing women for having sex and making sure that more white christian males are born.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18367337]Yeah, they hate life so much they're against abortions. :downs:[/QUOTE] Because they think jesus told them to ban them.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18365697]People on the right like killing people in wars and keep people at home from surviving medically, according to the picture.[/QUOTE] Sounds pretty accurate

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18367337]Yeah, they hate life so much they're against abortions. :downs:[/QUOTE] Which is another example of how hypocritical and full of shit they are. They kill people in the name of stopping abortions and saving lives, while voting to kill innocent people overseas and voting to let their fellow citizens die for not having enough money. They rail against government intrusion into their personal lives, while advocating that the government mandate what a woman can and can't do with her own body.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18362617]Hippies are not patriots. [img]http://www.capmag.com/images2y346y/comics/cf/NewRorschach-X.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Ironic. Right now it's the right screaming death panels and socialism. And comparing the government to Nazi Germany.