iirc some Japanese group was the first to publicly claim responsibility for 9/11 so I'd take it with a grain of salt if authorities are skeptical
If you guys think this is mysterious
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship_Italia[/URL]
At least they could potentially be found
[QUOTE=OvB;44193472]I can't believe they haven't found some sort of debris yet.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe that the plane disappeared like that all together
Well what on an airliner is bouyant? Seat cushions and the wheel part of the landing gear maybe? If the plane was intact it could float for a bit. An Airbus is designed to be able to float for a fair bit in case of a water landing, but I don't know about Boeings
I just realized, reading the wiki, that the plane that's missing was the 404th 777 produced. This is either an edit, or some sort of fucked up black humor on the part of the universe.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;44198342]I just realized, reading the wiki, that the plane that's missing was the 404th 777 produced. This is either an edit, or some sort of fucked up black humor on the part of the universe.[/QUOTE]
404 error: Plane not found
[QUOTE=dai;44195111]I've heard that the US has mined a ton of data from satellite imagery taken since then and can't find one lick of debris along its actual and potential courses. Even falling into the ocean, there'd be some notable data between things like the previously noted oil slick, floating debris like seating/luggage, SOMETHING. On top of that, the whole 'active cell phones' thing when people call known numbers of those onboard is just curious, meaning that at least some phones are undamaged and within range of cell service.
My best guess on this evidence is that they could have been hijacked and flown to a somewhat remote landing location, but maybe had complications setting up some sort of connection to get it out there they're holding the plane ransom, but don't want to use the passengers' cellphones for fear of being located.
Question is, if anyone has an android phone that is active, google should be capable of picking up their location through either cell tower triangulation or straight up satellite GPS services, so if they haven't said anything the whole 'calling phones and they're ringing' thing could be a case of phones left at home, having number forwarding when one isn't available, phones not destroyed in a horrific accident, or having google phone numbers or something. It's super situational and could be a lot of things at this point[/QUOTE]
From what I've read the phones are set to keep ringing and ringing sometimes because some phones, mainly being Chinese ones don't actually use voicemail plus they don't want you to just hear dead silence when the phone is trying to be located to ring.
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/201zdp/missing_malaysia_airlines_flight_mh370_passengers/[/url]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;44199248]Breaking
[url]https://twitter.com/abc7/status/443264468936843264[/url][/QUOTE]
That was 3 hours what's the word?
[QUOTE=AT Rifleman;44199284]That was 3 hours what's the word?[/QUOTE]
So far twitter is the only source from what I could find, I checked the CNN Wire and other news twitters and didn't find anything relating to wreckage.
Also 3 sources ([URL="https://twitter.com/AP/status/443284438412447744"]AP[/URL] , [URL="https://twitter.com/AFP/status/443284447367274497"]AFP[/URL] and [URL="https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/443284514643918848"]Fox News[/URL]) are reporting that a passenger was a "Iranian asylum seeker", [URL="https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/443286269985308672"]They as well have a ID on one of the people who stole a passport.[/URL]
It seems a little fishy that a plane with 2 men that had fake passports were on a plane that went out of the sky mysteriously
Has nothing to do with them being Iranian either, I've had this mindset for a while now
If something catastrophic happened midair, like an explosion, then the area should be littered with debris.
It's just very weird. A malfunction that would cause the plane to go out of control would've resulted in distress calls, and a sudden event that makes that impossible would at least leave traces behind.
The only thing I can think of is that they're looking in the wrong spot.
Could it be possible that the plane was hijacked, then was forced to reduce altitude to below the minimum height for radar then flown to some other location?
[QUOTE=PiX06;44200103]Could it be possible that the plane was hijacked, then was forced to reduce altitude to below the minimum height for radar then flown to some other location?[/QUOTE]
Yeah in movie land.
[QUOTE=PiX06;44200103]Could it be possible that the plane was hijacked, then was forced to reduce altitude to below the minimum height for radar then flown to some other location?[/QUOTE]
You'd hope that's the case but it seems unlikely considering if that did happen someone would of probably claimed to of taken the plane and passengers by now
[QUOTE=PiX06;44200103]Could it be possible that the plane was hijacked, then was forced to reduce altitude to below the minimum height for radar then flown to some other location?[/QUOTE]
Talking about that. I've been getting chain messages on my phone saying how a Russian spy hijacked the plane, an American fighter jet tried to shoot it down but they somehow talked out of it and magically a goddamn G9 summit took part to stop WW3.
Holy shit its a long read and amusing as fuck. I'd post it here if it was in English but sadly it isn't.
Its pretty odd.
If the plane landed on the ocean in tact then people would have gotten out and been found.
If the plane hit the ocean and everybody died then bits of the plane which are buoyant (of which there is lots) would have been found.
I'm going with the 'hijacked and ransom' scenario.
Carbone Monoxide poisoning, maybe?
The crew and passengers get knocked out, the plane slowly loses speed and altitude and eventually crashes into the sea at a speed low enough that it doesn't leave behind much debris.
[QUOTE=V12US;44200227]Carbone Monoxide poisoning, maybe?
The crew and passengers get knocked out, the plane slowly loses speed and altitude and eventually crashes into the sea at a speed low enough that it doesn't leave behind much debris.[/QUOTE]
Even at relatively low enough speed, the wings would rip apart when touching the water, and you'd have all kinds of airplane fuel and oil floating. Which would probably be seen via satellite, but they haven't found anything.
Unless you're flying a catalina, or other planes of the sort, you ain't gonna have a "soft landing" on the ocean.
[QUOTE=download;44200182]Its pretty odd.
If the plane landed on the ocean in tact then people would have gotten out and been found.
If the plane hit the ocean and everybody died then bits of the plane which are buoyant (of which there is lots) would have been found.
I'm going with the 'hijacked and ransom' scenario.[/QUOTE]
If it was a highjacking, wouldn't they of had enough time to make a distress call? And those cockpit doors are so secure ever since 9/11 so I don't know, it's just really odd and suspicious it just fell out of the sky
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44200413]If it was a highjacking, wouldn't they of had enough time to make a distress call? And those cockpit doors are so secure ever since 9/11 so I don't know, it's just really odd and suspicious it just fell out of the sky[/QUOTE]
Both are really odd
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311[/url]
Apparently the Malaysian military tracked the airplane over the Straight of Malacca after it disappeared, which is way off of its original course.
Sounds like a hi-jack. Probably a struggle between the hijackers and the passengers too.
[QUOTE=V12US;44200519][url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311[/url]
Apparently the Malaysian military tracked the airplane over the Straight of Malacca after it disappeared, which is way off of its original course.[/QUOTE]
Wait, so it disappeared off Radar, lost all radio contact...Then managed to fly back over Malaysian land, entirely undetected until they got into the Malaccan Strait, where it was last seen?
...That doesn't even sound possible.
[QUOTE=V12US;44200227]Carbone Monoxide poisoning, maybe?
The crew and passengers get knocked out, the plane slowly loses speed and altitude and eventually crashes into the sea at a speed low enough that it doesn't leave behind much debris.[/QUOTE]
If so, they would either crash into the sea or land. And someone would have found it by now. This mystery is really starting to baffle me.
[QUOTE=V12US;44200519][url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311[/url]
Apparently the Malaysian military tracked the airplane over the Straight of Malacca after it disappeared, which is way off of its original course.[/QUOTE]
If that ends up being true, they flew very far off course....like really far off course. That makes the hijacking scenario sound even more likely.
Hijacking wouldn't be possible unless there was a bomb threat or the cockpit doors weren't locked.
At least in the US, the pilots are for no reason to ever open the door I think, may be wrong.
Some plane malfunctions can cause it to go way off course while the pilots try to regain control, that that Japanese airlines one. it was flying for over [b]30 minutes[/b] without a vertical stabilizer.
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Japan_Airlines_123_route_English.png/800px-Japan_Airlines_123_route_English.png[/img]
It's no more likely to be hijacking as it is to be a malfunction at this point still
however, that japanese flight still was in contact the whole time so eh
Their could've been a non-rapid decompression like Helios, and the pilots were incapacitated and were O2 drunk and didn't check in or think there was an emergency. I'm just spit balling.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;44200781]Their could've been a non-rapid decompression like Helios, and the pilots were incapacitated and were O2 drunk and didn't check in or think there was an emergency. I'm just spit balling.[/QUOTE]
Ever since Helios, a warning occurs to pilots if the cabin decompression toggle hasn't been switched on
If it was a decompression issue, the plane would of made a gradual decent and wouldn't of crashed so high up in the sky, giving ATC the authority and time to call the police and see if they can intercept the aircraft
[editline]11th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=massaki;44200574]Sounds like a hi-jack. Probably a struggle between the hijackers and the passengers too.[/QUOTE]
A Hi-jack would of triggered a Pan-Pan-Pan or Mayday call from the pilots, if the plane was truly hijacked, the hijackers may of turned off the transponder, but even that would of caused the plane to become a little white dot on radar screens
[editline]11th March 2014[/editline]
Either the following assumptions can be made so far, explosive decompression from the cargo bay bought the plane down or a bomb, because anything else would of allowed pilots to send a distress signal
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44200799]Ever since Helios, a warning occurs to pilots if the cabin decompression toggle hasn't been switched on
If it was a decompression issue, the plane would of made a gradual decent and wouldn't of crashed so high up in the sky, giving ATC the authority and time to call the police and see if they can intercept the aircraft
[editline]11th March 2014[/editline]
Either the following assumptions can be made so far, explosive decompression from the cargo bay bought the plane down or a bomb, because anything else would of allowed pilots to send a distress signal[/QUOTE]
I thought with Helios the problem was that the decompression warning sounded too close to wrong takeoff configuration, but that still doesn't explain falling off the scope completely.
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