[QUOTE=shauntp;44188838]Imagine that moment from the cockpit where you're literally looking at the water, looking at an almost inevitable death - and there's nothing you can possibly do to stop it. Truly, truly terrifying.[/QUOTE]
If the plane actually ripped apart during flight (which is probably what happened, it has been seen before), I'd imagine the g-forces included would in many cases be lethal. But yeah, it'd be pretty terrifying if you survived the initial break-up.
Yellow object confirmed to be part of an [I]undersea cable housing[/I].
There is just too many rumours and false reporting going on I would just recommend people to go here
[URL]http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html[/URL]
Those are MAS official media statements where only confirmed incidents are reported.
They think a few of the astronauts survived the explosion and break up of the Challenger space shuttle since 2 or 3 of them switched on their aux O2 systems AFTER the explosion
Throwing this out out
I wonder if there is a possibly that the plane could of been shot down by a AA missile? Like the Korean Air Line flight 007 incident. It could of knocked out the plane's electrical system.
[QUOTE=Michael haxz;44189463]Throwing this out out
I wonder if there is a possibly that the plane could of been shot down by a AA missile? Like the Korean Air Line flight 007 incident. It could of knocked out the plane's electrical system.[/QUOTE]
By whom?
[QUOTE=Novangel;44189587]By whom?[/QUOTE]
I don't think there is any chance of that in all honesty. But it is funny how a week or so ago North Korea fired a missile that very nearly hit a passenger flight. Although I'm not sure about the geographic similarity. of the events.
[QUOTE=Michael haxz;44189463]Throwing this out out
I wonder if there is a possibly that the plane could of been shot down by a AA missile? Like the Korean Air Line flight 007 incident. It could of knocked out the plane's electrical system.[/QUOTE]
I doubt, normally this shit doesn't go unnoticed and the plane wasn't near North Korea IIRC, a country by now would of fessed up and spoke
But I'm seriously considering this incident was foul play
[QUOTE=TheTalon;44189397]They think a few of the astronauts survived the explosion and break up of the Challenger space shuttle since 2 or 3 of them switched on their aux O2 systems AFTER the explosion[/QUOTE]
Bear in mind those were individuals at the peak of human physical performance who have been put through extensive G-force training to withstand what most ordinary humans can't.
Odds are anyone on the plane would have succumbed to high G-forces almost immediately and passed out.
This just might as well be the same thing that happened on Air France Flight 447. But maybe not for the same cause? I could always just say it was a bird that went into the engine but then we get to the fact that they would have sent a distress signal by then. Well I hope someone survives on a floating bag or or something like that... :I
According to cnn, both of the tickets of the stolen passports were bought at the same time by an Iranian man.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/10/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-mystery-passengers/index.html?hpt=hp_t1[/url]
They said the plane looked like it was starting to turn back
Just talking to me dad about this, interesting theory he had, meteor strike. Would explain lack of debris and the randomness of the situation.
Also he reminded me back in 2008 we both flew that exact route. Could have also been the same plane....
[QUOTE=Alex141;44193067]Just talking to me dad about this, interesting theory he had, meteor strike. Would explain lack of debris and the randomness of the situation.[/QUOTE]
Ok seriously, the odds of this are so remote as to be simply laughable.
Exactly, however all it takes is that one unfortunate chance where events all line up
[QUOTE=Alex141;44193104]Exactly, however all it takes is that one unfortunate chance where events all line up[/QUOTE]
and you think the world's meteorological bodies wouldn't have
a) noticed
b) predicted
c) suggest as possible cause
That is true, I don't know it was just an idea.
[QUOTE=Alex141;44193067]meteor strike[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alex141;44193067]Would explain lack of debris[/QUOTE]
a plane being hit by a meteor would explain the lack of debris? i somehow don't think so
it's not really a matter of whether or not there is debris, it's more of a case of where exactly did it all end up (and finding stuff in the ocean is not an easy task)
The longer time goes on and no substantial evidence is being found about this, the more eerie it gets.
My heart goes out to all of those souls on that plane...
I can't believe they haven't found some sort of debris yet.
I over heard somebody saying aliens abducted the plane, i shit you not.
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;44193357]The longer time goes on and no substantial evidence is being found about this, the more eerie it gets.
My heart goes all to all of those souls on that plane...[/QUOTE]
People & stuff that vanishes from thin air without a trace is disturbing enough. Huge planes with 200 passengers? Off the charts creepy.
Where they in oceanic airspace (uncontrolled) or no?
[QUOTE=Conspirator;44192483]According to cnn, both of the tickets of the stolen passports were bought at the same time by an Iranian man.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/10/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-mystery-passengers/index.html?hpt=hp_t1[/url][/QUOTE]
Probably just illegal immigrants using stolen IDs. Unless there is more info on them, it's probably not worth speculating too much.
[QUOTE=Fort83;44193518]Reminds me of the prey 2 trailer.
In all seriousness, wouldn't there be a record if the plane went off course, I'm not taking about the black box but at the control tower?[/QUOTE]
Posting said trailer, because every time I think about it I get sad that the game was effectively scrapped and cancelled.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufikwk7_AD0[/url]
On second thought, no video tags. This isn't the thread for that. I'm just posting mention of it.
As to the tracking bit, I'm ignorant to how planes work. I'd imagine if it was being tracked by radar and suddenly disappeared, that pretty much means it plunged into the sea. That's pretty god-damned definitive as far as things go if it was being tracked by radar I think, unless it flew under the radar in a literal sense. If it was just a flight nav tracking thing and a system dependent on the plane, I'm not sure if there would be any way to disable it.
[QUOTE=Fort83;44193518]Reminds me of the prey 2 trailer.
In all seriousness, wouldn't there be a record if the plane went off course, I'm not taking about the black box but at the control tower?[/QUOTE]
Thats what I was thinking.. hence my question about airspace
[QUOTE=Code3Response;44193502]Where they in oceanic airspace (uncontrolled) or no?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=aydin690;44193479]I over heard somebody saying aliens abducted the plane, i shit you not.[/QUOTE]
The shamans in are saying that the plane is somehow 'suspended stuck between three countries'.
I shit you not. They literally brought one from Indonesia just to do this.
[t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32814946/2014-03-10-22-25-10.png[/t]
[editline]11th March 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;44193502]Where they in oceanic airspace (uncontrolled) or no?[/QUOTE]
It went missing in Vietnamese airspace. IIRC
Talking about that, check this article out.
[URL]http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1443956/chinese-radar-expert-has-doubts-malaysian-airliner-simply-vanished[/URL]
[QUOTE=Grimhound;44193569]
As to the tracking bit, I'm ignorant to how planes work. I'd imagine if it was being tracked by radar and suddenly disappeared, that pretty much means it plunged into the sea. That's pretty god-damned definitive as far as things go if it was being tracked by radar. If it was just a flight nav tracking thing and a system dependent on the plane, I'm not sure if there would be any way to disable it.[/QUOTE]
Modern day radar base stations interrogate the aircraft transponder to obtain data. This is secondary radar - or SSR. If the transponder stops responding for whatever reason then the aircraft can "fall off the scope", rendering secondary radar uneffective. There is however primary radar - which is essentially radar in the traditional sense in that it sends out a radiowave which bounces off an object and the time/direction that wave is sent and how long it takes to receive determines its distance from the base station. However, not all air traffic control emergency response procedures actually use primary radar.
Typically, an air traffic control unit (ATCU) will try and raise an aircraft over radio if the "blip" falls off the radar scope, sometimes asking aircraft in that area to "relay" messages to cover the possibility that the receiving aircrafts radio has had a power loss but is still operable. They allow between 5 and 10 seconds for the missing aircraft to respond to each individual call. If the aircraft fails to communicate with the ATCU subsequently and after those attempts then an aircraft emergency is announced in the ATCU complex and various procedures are followed to isolate that air traffic control station and the controller, as well as the airspace around it, to better control the situation. It is at this time that primary radar [I]may[/I] be used by the ATCU to identify or track the aircraft, but primary radar can be unreliable and sometimes inaccurate. When there is bad weather for example, primary radar can be obscured by thunderstorms. SSR is used for a reason and for a controller to switch their scope to primary radar can remove vital data from their screen on other aircraft in the area. Therefore it's not practical for the first-hand air traffic controller to examine primary radar receipts and it is often left up to the incident response team.
This is not always the case but in ATCUs which have a defined area of responsibility they tend to use this response procedure or a variety thereof.
In terms of tracking and recording of that track, ATCUs record all communication with aircraft for a period of time and store them. By law (in the UK at least) they must do this to hold a valid ATCU license. If the aircraft transponder stops responding (so SSR isn't working) there is obviously nothing else left to track. But the primary radar receipts should still be recorded - and if there is anything there of interest, then it can always be examined at a later date.
Some really interesting stuff on radar types here: [URL]http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Surveillance.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sobek-;44185970]Don't know how it is over there, but if you turn your phone off here you get no ringing at all, just an instant mailbox connection. The article is a little vague, but by 'the call got connected' I take it to mean the phone actually rang, which in my experience tends to mean the destination phone is still on and active.[/QUOTE]
obviously that depends on your voicemail/phone setup
if you're using google voice with a voice number, calling that with your cellphone off will still ring and go to voicemail, rather than straight to voicemail
The plane entered a mid-air portal. End.
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