Jeff Sessions suggests DOJ will crack down on marijuana growers, even in states that legalized weed - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52824390]Of course acceptance is growing, and that's great. But laws are still laws, and if they decide to enforce them, you can't stop them unless you're ready to do something like what happened with the bundy ranch. It should be legalized federally, but "should" is not the same as "is".[/QUOTE] Seemed pretty easy when Obama was president.

[QUOTE=CreeplyTuna;52824297]Jeff Sessions blames weed for the opiod crisis, he's about as anti-legalize as one can get. But I would hope this blows up in his face and just intensifies the legalize fight.[/QUOTE] The war on drugs has already blown up in everyones faces, but do they give a shit? Noope. Doesn't matter if it gave birth to a shittonne of cartels, or it increased the prison population tenfold, or that you could earn earn an imperial shittone every year by taxing drugs, nope, they just don't give a shit

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;52823588]Republicans are only for states rights when they can fuck over people they don't like or disrupt their money by one penny.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52824407]The fed better bring a lot of fight if they're going to do that though, as I said earlier, the states flat out wouldnt tollerate loss of tax revenue.[/QUOTE] DEA, DHS, FBI, etc.. They have a lot to bring. I'm not sure states would want to start an entire civil war over marijuana. [QUOTE=Raidyr;52824416]Seemed pretty easy when Obama was president.[/QUOTE] Because Obama was smarter than our current orangutan in chief and knew when to back off and find another way.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52824351]No, they can't arrest federal agents. The feds can, however, arrest the state LEOs for interfering with a federal operation.[/QUOTE] Actually a good number of states have laws saying that state LEO can arrest federal agents if they believe they're acting to violate a citizen's rights. Wyoming for example has such a law in place because a bunch of scared rednecks decided Obama was coming for their guns and got a law ratified through the state congress saying that sheriffs can arrest federal agents. Not to say that it's something that'd hold up under intense scrutiny or anything. But it is technically in law in a few places.

[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;52823796]Didn't they promise they'll leave marijuana legalisation to states themselves? Not that anyone should trust any of their promises, just wondering.[/QUOTE] That was Obama's Government, Trump has been pretty silent on weed but his political leanings and cabinet picks strongly implied an anti-weed government.

Lol thanks for forcing yourself to be bigger buyer from Canada when we make it legal in 2018

[QUOTE=The Baconator;52823628]Federal laws supercede state laws so this isn’t a violation[/QUOTE] congress has passed resolutions to budgets directing the dea and doj to stay away from state programs so its not quite clear cut. in fact the amendment has explicitly banned the doj from using federal resources to go after state programs. by enforcing the law he would be going against the directives of the body that made the law.

So much for "50 little laboratories" lol, I guess they only say that when it's 50 little Republican laboratories and since the Republicans don't believe in science or evidence-based policy you can't even call them that

I wonder if this administration will have "experiments" using marijuana on animals to try to prove their points. Then we'll discover quickly that they're putting all types of shit in the weed to force the experiments to have horrifying results. It'd be thematic with the administration trying to move backwards.

[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52827399]I wonder if this administration will have "experiments" using marijuana on animals to try to prove their points. Then we'll discover quickly that they're putting all types of shit in the weed to force the experiments to have horrifying results. It'd be thematic with the administration trying to move backwards.[/QUOTE] It's already been known for a while that marijuana provided to scientists by the government is [url=https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/scientists-say-governments-pot-farm-moldy-samples-no-guidelines]low quality moldy garbage.[/url]

[QUOTE=The Baconator;52823628]Federal laws supercede state laws so this isn’t a violation[/QUOTE] It still goes against the [I]actual[/I] core of republican politics: state rights are important, and are not to be "bullied" but the larger, federal power, and that the federal government should have minimal interference with such.

fuck off man, leave growers alone.

[QUOTE=Flicky;52827468]It's already been known for a while that marijuana provided to scientists by the government is [url=https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/scientists-say-governments-pot-farm-moldy-samples-no-guidelines]low quality moldy garbage.[/url][/QUOTE] Which just makes me wonder if some of those side-effects reported by government funded studies are just because people may have been [I]ingesting mold[/I]...

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52829504]Which just makes me wonder if some of those side-effects reported by government funded studies are just because people may have been [I]ingesting mold[/I]...[/QUOTE] The article mentions that so far, the studies haven't shown signs of the mold being toxic. What it DOES throw a giant red flag for is the notion that the people growing the stuff meant for studying its medical potential aren't taking as good of care of their product as they should, and that's before you even get into the shitty quality and lack of potency. Though IIIRC, the idea that it "causes brain damage" was from a study conducted with monkeys who took in smoke containing THC through masks, effectively reducing their oxygen intake for periods of around 10 minutes at a time, which of course drastically reducing oxygen intake is going to cause brain damage.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;52829504]Which just makes me wonder if some of those side-effects reported by government funded studies are just because people may have been [I]ingesting mold[/I]...[/QUOTE] reminder: [img]https://static.attn.com/sites/default/files/marijuana%20side-by-side.jpg[/img] the government shit looks like it'd give you a fucking head ache

I got a headache just looking at it. The thing probably smells like an old dried up leaf.

[QUOTE=Megadave;52829805]I got a headache just looking at it. The thing probably smells like an old dried up leaf.[/QUOTE] Half of it is probably stems, which do actually give you a wicked headache.

[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;52829656]reminder: [img]https://static.attn.com/sites/default/files/marijuana%20side-by-side.jpg[/img] the government shit looks like it'd give you a fucking head ache[/QUOTE] Here's some slightly better photos of the Government Ditch Weed™ [t]http://www.thecannabist.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/mississippi-marijuana-nida-800x480.jpg[/t] This strain, while closely resembling [I]actual grass[/I], contains a disappointing maximum THC content of 8%. For comparison, street marijuana is typically 20%+ THC. [t]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/03/Rebecca-Matthews-_FAH9845.jpg&w=1484[/t]

[QUOTE=gokiyono;52824417]or it increased the prison population tenfold[/QUOTE] That's exactly the point though. Drugs were spread to destabilize black communities and now the prison industrial complex has made this systematic racism profitable.

[QUOTE=Quark:;52830784]Here's some slightly better photos of the Government Ditch Weed™ [t]http://www.thecannabist.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/mississippi-marijuana-nida-800x480.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Looks like Swamp Thing took an uncomfortable dump after eating some bad Taco Bell.

[QUOTE=Quark:;52830784]Here's some slightly better photos of the Government Ditch Weed™ [t]http://www.thecannabist.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/mississippi-marijuana-nida-800x480.jpg[/t] This strain, while closely resembling [I]actual grass[/I], contains a disappointing maximum THC content of 8%. For comparison, street marijuana is typically 20%+ THC. [t]https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2017/03/Rebecca-Matthews-_FAH9845.jpg&w=1484[/t][/QUOTE] It looks like loose alfalfa. :why:

Is it because weed is associated with Democrats/Obama? Or is there actually something to gain from keeping it illegal?

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;52831649]Is it because weed is associated with Democrats/Obama? Or is there actually something to gain from keeping it illegal?[/QUOTE] There's a lot to be gained from keeping it illegal. Drug prohibition is grossly overprosecuted in the us and is used as a way to generate revenue. When I was charged with it, there was a guy in the court room during my bond hearing who had physically assaulted someone who had a restraining order against him, his bond for breaking that court order and actually physically hurting someone was set at $3,000, but my bond for growing a tiny pot plant was $20,000. Not only that, but prison guards unions and other law enforcement related unions regularly lobby against sensible drug law reform strictly because it will impact their job security. The entire system is set up to skim money off of people, usually poor people. Drug prohibition of any kind is absolutely immoral because it does not accomplish the objective of reducing drug use. People still use drugs and they're very illegal now, all it does is cause more harm to the people and to the communities affected by drug use because now on top of doing drugs now they also have huge legal bills to pay combined with the reduction in their ability to find and maintain gainful employment now that they're a criminal. Arresting people for drugs doesn't help anyone besides the people who make money off of it.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;52831649]Is it because weed is associated with Democrats/Obama? Or is there actually something to gain from keeping it illegal?[/QUOTE] Gotta keep those private prisons filled yo

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;52831649]Is it because weed is associated with Democrats/Obama? Or is there actually something to gain from keeping it illegal?[/QUOTE] - More left-leaning people smoke marijuana and criminalizing them lets you remove people who'd vote against you from the equation. - Private prisons are making money hand over fist on the incarceration of marijuana users. - DEA job security and funding relies on having the marijuana boogyman. So there are a lot of reasons, just not really many that are actually good for this country as a whole. As a drug marijuana's about as harmful as alcohol, maybe even less so. Regulation and sensible taxation would do a lot of good, but not for the people listed above, who sadly also happen to have quite a bit of political clout. There's also [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ehrlichman#War_on_drugs]this fun little quote[/url], whether you believe it or not.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;52831649]Is it because weed is associated with Democrats/Obama? Or is there actually something to gain from keeping it illegal?[/QUOTE] There is no legitimate reason for marijuana to be a schedule 1 controlled substance, let alone illegal in any capacity. By keeping it as such, revenue can be collected from issuing citations and fines to people for possessing it or selling it. Additionally, people can be imprisoned for growing it and fined excessively. This is the most plausible explanation for why marijuana is still federally illegal.

[QUOTE=Naelstrom;52831649]Is it because weed is associated with Democrats/Obama? Or is there actually something to gain from keeping it illegal?[/QUOTE] $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. its scheduling does not reflect the actual science. There was some hope under obama that it would finally get rescheduled but then the DEA just used circular logic of "there's no FDA approved use of it" and "Because its schedule 1 we can't let the FDA do any medical trials on it"

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52831127]It looks like loose alfalfa. :why:[/QUOTE] it's prolly like 8% cuz the fuckers don't know what trimming is and leave all the goddamn fan leaves on there [editline]29th October 2017[/editline] yeah, that shit's definitely got baaaaare bush leaf in it

[QUOTE=The Baconator;52823628]Federal laws supercede state laws so this isn’t a violation[/QUOTE] Except when it doesnt, which is most of the time.