• CNN: Woman sexually assaulted in virtual reality
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i got virtually punched in the face in hover junkers, wheres my article CNN? why didnt she just leave the game?
[QUOTE=Paramud;51260843]I'm not familiar with QuiVR so I've got two questions. One, does QuiVR necessarily display your Steam username; two, is it not possible that since this article was posted five days ago he simply changed his username?[/QUOTE] I don't know about the first one, but with the second one, I do know that old usernames are still tied to the Steam Account. While the previous username list doesn't show more than like 6, it still has the earlier ones in it's database. Let's say you were called LemonLicker 5 years ago, and you went through a bunch of names, and decided to keep it as Apple, I would be able to find that account by searching a 5 year old name.
I tried looking into the article to find out why she couldn't just turn off the game if she was so disturbed. I still don't know why this is an issue.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;51261300]I tried looking into the article to find out why she couldn't just turn off the game if she was so disturbed. I still don't know why this is an issue.[/QUOTE] Because Brianna Wu only makes money when she's playing victim.
[QUOTE=Xonax;51261280]I don't know about the first one, but with the second one, I do know that old usernames are still tied to the Steam Account. While the previous username list doesn't show more than like 6, it still has the earlier ones in it's database. Let's say you were called LemonLicker 5 years ago, and you went through a bunch of names, and decided to keep it as Apple, I would be able to find that account by searching a 5 year old name.[/QUOTE] I used to be called @@--ap3x_w33d--@@ as a TOP MEME, this account doesn't show up in searches for that, only my second account that I also called that and some other memelord.
Brianna Wu is probably one of the worst things ever to happen people who like playing victim are just as bad as bullies themselves tbh
Some guy tried to make out with me twice last week while playing in VR I demand internet pity and large amounts of money
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;51261344]Some guy tried to make out with me twice last week while playing in VR I demand internet pity and large amounts of money[/QUOTE] I wish more guys would try and kiss me tbh your pretty lucky you should have molested back
[QUOTE=J!NX;51261320]Brianna Wu is probably one of the worst things ever to happen people who like playing victim are just as bad as bullies themselves tbh[/QUOTE] I think they're worse, since when they're caught, it makes people more skeptical of real victims.
This one time me and my friend were playing some weird GTA:SA server and you could "rape" other players by typing /rape. No animations were displayed but it would have a strong chance of removing health through disease. Long story short my friend raped a player cop through the jail bars to death and I stole a boat off some dude and gave him gonnoreah and left him to drown. Sort of puts this incident into perspective.
[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;51261360]I think they're worse, since when they're caught, it makes people more skeptical of real victims.[/QUOTE] I guess what makes them worse is that you can't fight someone with a victim complex, because then they just double down on it and become 5000x worse. That and other people who mob mentality support these insane cunts. but if a bully starts shoving you you just break their face with a fist and they fuck off. Everyone laughs and their asshole friends just secretly brag
[QUOTE=J!NX;51261320]Brianna Wu is probably one of the worst things ever to happen people who like playing victim are just as bad as bullies themselves tbh[/QUOTE] the term "crybully" exists to describe these people.
implement a system in all vr games, if someones virtual hand approaches a female players crotch they are automatically kicked and banned permanently
[QUOTE=Naught;51260600]she's probably getting people to publish these articles, somehow[/QUOTE] Wu's an ex-journalist so she probably knows who to talk to, what to say, what they'll want from her, etc.
Did he fiddle her hdmi cables?
He leveled up
The Onion are probably crying right now because their job became a reality and they are not needed anymore.
[QUOTE=Camdude90;51261465]implement a system in all vr games, if someones virtual hand approaches a female players crotch they are automatically kicked and banned permanently[/QUOTE] play as a female and move your crotch into people's hands
I can't wait for a hack where the coordinates of someone's groin are superimposed on every player's hands, permanently banning everyone at once (including themselves).
[QUOTE=Paramud;51260698]Wonderful argument, thanks for contributing.[/QUOTE] What argument do you expect? Are all people whos 'corpses' are teabagged after killed in cs1.6 to cs go sexually harassed sexually assaulted even perhaps? if thats true then what about them being killed... its the same situation, a virtual crime preformed on their avatar... why not respond to that? because either you are being intellectually dishonest or you are letting your emotions and personal biasses get in the way of reasonable coolheaded thinking. No, its a virtual expression, you cant just imbue your body's rights on objects and concepts just for the fuck of it... legal rights and such should be rigidly defined for a reason. SO yes, killing them is fine, and so is raping and assaulting and far more vile stuff done to them... the other always has the choice to not play/participate...or heck, not associate with his avatar in the game. This guy was trolling and she fed the troll a banquet of butthurt... the right thing to do was either to play along and have fun with it, or ask him to stop and if he doesn’t stop playing with him. [editline]26th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Elstumpo;51261814]play as a female and move your crotch into people's hands[/QUOTE] Thats some proper fucking AAA level trolling and exactly another reason why there should never be any kind of rules like this...
I find this pretty insulting to women who has been sexually assaulted or raped in real life. Like, if you're uncomfortable by anonymous men on the internet just leave the game?
[QUOTE=MILKE;51262106]I find this pretty insulting by women who has been sexually assaulted or raped in real life. Like, if you're uncomfortable by anonymous men on the internet just leave the game?[/QUOTE] All these people have been doing for the past decade is turn sexual assault term into a joke. It was a serious thing before, but lately getting "touched" on the internet is sexual assault now. They're toxic people who make it worse for everyone.
[QUOTE=Paramud;51260776][...] I'd also like to point out that she [B]never called it sexual assault[/B], she called it harassment. [...][/QUOTE][emphasis mine] This is wrong: The original title of her Medium post was 'My First Virtual Reality Sexual Assault'. This can be seen for example from [URL="https://archive.is/j07Ki#selection-1499.189-1503.22"]the link in the article in the OP[/URL]. Medium stories by default have the title they were first published with as link, which is unchangeable even if you change the headline of the post itself. It also still appears when the post is embedded as Twitter card: [media]https://twitter.com/sanspoint/status/789969760196915200[/media] ([URL="http://archive.is/ei4SE"]I can't archive this properly[/URL], so it's possible the card will be updated in the future.) All that said, [B]she appears to have changed the title fairly shortly after publishing it, or even before changing it from [I]unlisted[/I] to [I]public[/I][/B] after sensibly having someone else read over it first. There are no manual archives that show the post's original title directly.
Wayback machine can do it. [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20161026083432/https:/twitter.com/sanspoint/status/789969760196915200[/url]
[QUOTE=helifreak;51262273]Wayback machine can do it. [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20161026083432/https:/twitter.com/sanspoint/status/789969760196915200[/url][/QUOTE] That's a live page using a script to load the content late, so when I [URL="https://archive.is/ORpFg"]import[/URL] it into a static archive, it still becomes blank. Generally speaking, the Wayback machine is designed to keep information accessible but not necessarily to witness it. Scripts aside, images also usually aren't preserved and change with the website they came from.
"Sexual abuse is no less real in VR than in reality." this is on the same level as furries calling fursecution as bad as real life racism, and similar in mentality people who compare cow slaughter houses to the holocaust. real sexual abuse isn't something you can just cancel yourself from experiencing you complete WHACK. You can't just turn off a headset or leave the game within 5 seconds. It's actual, physical touch and abuse. Comparing real life abuse to virtual abuse in this way makes it seem like real life abuse isn't nearly as serious as it actually is. like you'd have to be disconnected from reality to actually believe this.
you must always stay vigilant for the VRapist
While I wouldn't go as far as to call this rape or sexual abuse or anything like that, it [i]is[/i] harassment and unacceptable behavior. Not everything should as overblown and be responded to with "RAAAAPE", but there is a middle ground where something like this should be looked at objectively, and responded to appropriately. I'd compare it to a situation where a woman is playing on XBL, and someone messages them along the lines of "hey bb suck my cockkk". It's not rape, it's not actual abuse, but it's definitely a form of harassment, and should be reported and dealt with by whoever moderates the platform being used. I don't think games should be gimped in their freedom of interaction because of these things. For example: someone on Reddit suggested creating a "clipping area" around players, where your hands/head can't enter. While that may be appropriate for some games, I don't think that's a solution for all situations. I do think there should be a way to report players that do this. There should be consequences for people that act inappropriately and try to ruin the experience for others, whether through inappropriate actions or game-play "griefing". Put them in separate sessions with other players that share the same sense of "humor", give them a time-out period, or just a simple message with: "You are currently under scrutiny by the moderators. Behave." One player shouldn't have the power to ruin the experience for another, in a non-intended game-play way. That should be a basic fundamental principle of all games. Whether that's through "groping" someone in VR, sending rude messages without reproach, or intentionally ruining matches. You can say "turn off the headset", and while that's true, think of it like this: Say you're playing on a server, and someone has an issue with you and wants you to leave. By DDoSing your home connection (easily done when most p2p games expose your IP), they can remove you from the session. Now replace DDoS with "virtually groping someone and cause them to take the headset off". You are unfairly causing someone to be removed from an activity they enjoy.
I feel like im living in south park
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51261970]What argument do you expect? Are all people whos 'corpses' are teabagged after killed in cs1.6 to cs go sexually harassed sexually assaulted even perhaps? if thats true then what about them being killed... its the same situation, a virtual crime preformed on their avatar... why not respond to that? because either you are being intellectually dishonest or you are letting your emotions and personal biasses get in the way of reasonable coolheaded thinking. [/QUOTE] Actually, I didn't respond to that because that comparison doesn't really make any sense. I know English isn't your first language, but are you aware of what the term "harassment" actually covers? Basically, if someone intentionally does something to annoy or disturb you, and continues after being told not to, it's harassment. Physical, digital, virtual, doesn't matter what the setting is. If this is done in a sexual nature, it's sexual harassment. Because she repeatedly told the other player to stop and he continued on, he was sexually harassing her. There's no alternate interpretations here, it's straight forward and clean cut. [QUOTE=Tamschi;51262246]This is wrong: The original title of her Medium post was 'My First Virtual Reality Sexual Assault'. This can be seen for example from [URL="https://archive.is/j07Ki#selection-1499.189-1503.22"]the link in the article in the OP[/URL].[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware. Still, at least she saw fit to change it for whatever the reason may be.
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