Study: Using A Sexy Video Game Avatar Makes Women Start Perceiving Themselves In A Sexually Objectif
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[QUOTE=MarlaCouture;42498724]Was [URL="http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2012.pdf"]this[/URL] what you were referring to?[/quote]
Unfortunately no. I'm sure they must have the data for the types of genres/platforms female and male gamers usually flock to but each year they never release the stratified data as part of that report.
[quote]Also, I agree with you and acknlowedge that but I was just trying to point out that the use of labels for gamers such as "casual gamer" are usually used by other elitist gamers to devalue someone as a gamer opposed to "true gamers" y'know, the whole hierarchy of being a gamer thing ie, playing a lot of games on xbox doesn't make you better or more of a gamer than someone who plays on the wii[/quote]
I agree. The post wasn't really squared at that as much as it was a response to the notion that "there's a 50/50 split of male and female gamers, therefore a certain market of games where women probably aren't as numerous should represent that even though the numbers are probably totally skewed by another much different market."
[editline]12th October 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MarlaCouture;42498833]I've been devalued as a gamer, specifically by guys who play xbox 360, so many times in highschool because I play on PC. I literally don't even understand what they were trying to get at.[/QUOTE]
People who play on the 360 generally don't realise the PC as a platform is for more than porn and casual indie/facebook games.
Cherrypicking: The Thread.
i wonder when people will realize that women who objectify themselves using makeup and whatnot do so because society has conditioned them to do so because they were taught that its the greatest value they have
i wonder when people will stop being dumb as shit
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;42490900]"the results indicate that women who wear sexualized avatars may internalize the features of their avatars and start perceiving themselves in a sexually objectified manner."
aka "we can't conclude anything except that for the duration of the experiment, women were objectifying themselves more." In its current state, this study is not very useful, especially with a sample of only 84.[/QUOTE]
But, what about in real life? What if we dress our bodies in sexual clothing? Would we objectify ourselves, then? This causes me to approach a conclusion that perhaps a good way to cut out objectification of women is for fathers and/or mothers to have their daughters dress and present themselves properly.
Hasn't it been shown that women's magazines do the same thing anyway?
Its not surprising if true.
[QUOTE=jaegerisacunt;42497739]I like how you specifically went out of your way to find a shot where he looks skinny, despite him still being bigger than 98% of men.[/QUOTE]
That was the point of the picture.
The magazine targeted to men had him ripped, the magazine targeted to women had him toned and skinnier looking.
[QUOTE=Valnar;42500222]That was the point of the picture.
The magazine targeted to men had him ripped, the magazine targeted to women had him toned and skinnier looking.[/QUOTE]
One is a fitness magazine.... the other is a housekeeping magazine...
Since its popular to chuck buzz words around here, this falls under the very definition of false equivalence.
Of course the fitness magazine is going to have a focus on his physique. And FYI the position he is standing in on the cover of the housekeeping magazine makes your arms appear skinnier than if they were pressed against your body. Go ahead and try this for yourself, most peoples arms dont look big when they are flared on their hips.
And last I checked, magazines marketed for housewifes aren't in the market of selling sex.
Romance novels on the other hand, made by, and exclusively for women, are.
So to reiterate:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/FKNJFxF.jpg[/img]
Hmmm gee is it possible women have idealized versions of men too, no that couldnt be right its all misogyny and male dominated market control, women dont have fantasies and if they do, it could only be cute cuddly things!
[QUOTE=MarlaCouture;42498833]I've been devalued as a gamer, specifically by guys who play xbox 360, so many times in highschool because I play on PC. I literally don't even understand what they were trying to get at.[/QUOTE]They're afraid of you, your PC outclasses their silly console in every way.
Just remember that you belong to the PC master race and we're here for you.
The way women and men are sexualized is the same. For women, sexual appeal is power. It can get you pretty far, just look at Sarah Palin and how Republican men blindly support her.
[QUOTE=jaegerisacunt;42502838]One is a fitness magazine.... the other is a housekeeping magazine...
Since its popular to chuck buzz words around here, this falls under the very definition of false equivalence.
Of course the fitness magazine is going to have a focus on his physique. And FYI the position he is standing in on the cover of the housekeeping magazine makes your arms appear skinnier than if they were pressed against your body. Go ahead and try this for yourself, most peoples arms dont look big when they are flared on their hips.
And last I checked, magazines marketed for housewifes aren't in the market of selling sex.
Romance novels on the other hand, made by, and exclusively for women, are.
So to reiterate:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/FKNJFxF.jpg[/img]
Hmmm gee is it possible women have idealized versions of men too, no that couldnt be right its all misogyny and male dominated market control, women dont have fantasies and if they do, it could only be cute cuddly things![/QUOTE]
what
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qO1R4xM.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;42500108]i wonder when people will realize that women who objectify themselves using makeup and whatnot do so because society has conditioned them to do so because they were taught that its the greatest value they have
i wonder when people will stop being dumb as shit[/QUOTE]
or women AND men wear makeup because they want to and doesn't reflect who they are on the inside
I wear makeup and in no way shape or form do I think that it's the greatest value that I have, how most people choose to adorn themselves with extremities are not always linked to society's conditioning (which I'm not saying doesn't happen)
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;42492202]Why do they insist that rape is not victim's fault? It's not right. The victim can provoke the rapist too. Not like the victim is to blame - both victim and rapist might be the cause.[/QUOTE]
even if you loathe feminism I thought it was kind of generally understood that "victim's fault" is always bullshit
[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;42500108]i wonder when people will realize that women who objectify themselves using makeup and whatnot do so because society has conditioned them to do so because they were taught that its the greatest value they have
i wonder when people will stop being dumb as shit[/QUOTE]
And men recieve absolutely no pressure to keep their hair short, beards trimmed, and muscles tight. Oh wait...
[QUOTE=Irkalla;42500142]But, what about in real life? What if we dress our bodies in sexual clothing? Would we objectify ourselves, then? This causes me to approach a conclusion that perhaps a good way to cut out objectification of women is for fathers and/or mothers to have their daughters dress and present themselves properly.[/QUOTE]
I can see where you're going with this. More often than not I imagine that wearing sexy clothes doesn't teach people to objectify themselves, so much as they wear the clothes and feel that way because they already did to some extent. Of course this also brings up another issue: at what point does expressing your sexuality cross the line into objectification? And how far do you have to go for it to be wrong? On another vein of thought, is objectification purely a misogynistic problem, especially when it happens to both sexes?
I act like an annoying douchebag [del]on Facepunch[/del]in GTAV, but that doesn't carry over into IRL ever so yeah.
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;42506424]And men recieve absolutely no pressure to keep their hair short, beards trimmed, and muscles tight. Oh wait...
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I don't get any of those things. People like my long hair and ridiculously huge evil villain mustache and I just flat out don't receive comments about my rather normal build
Playing games can give you a boost in confidence, this can help people in multiple ways including helping people be more comfortable on how they look. Women want to look sexy, a boost in confidence would definitely have a direct effect on their behavior. It helps men as well, I usually play a game before an exam to make me less nervous and more confident about how I will do, now if only they would let me wear my chainmail...
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