• 15 yr-old girl OD'd at EDC
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It's idiots like this that give drugs a bad stigma.
[QUOTE=lemongrapes;23007454]It's idiots like this that give drugs a bad stigma.[/QUOTE] No I'm pretty sure that it's the drugs that give themselves a bad stigma. Well hard drugs anyway.
[QUOTE=lemongrapes;23007454]It's idiots like this that give drugs a bad stigma.[/QUOTE] This, and they should teach people how to safely take drugs, because prohibition and "DON'T DO IT CAUSE ITS BAD" Really isn't working. [editline]06:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hiccuper;23008681]No I'm pretty sure the drugs themselves give themselves a bad stigma. Well hard drugs anyway.[/QUOTE] You can happily take many hard drugs occasionally and have no / very little negative side effects if you are smart about it. But most people who end up taking them don't know the consequences purely because they haven't correctly been educated about it and therefore do stupid shit.
[QUOTE=shakey42;23008683]This, and they should teach people how to safely take drugs, because prohibition and "DON'T DO IT CAUSE ITS BAD" Really isn't working. [editline]06:32PM[/editline] You can happily take many hard drugs occasionally and have no / very little negative side effects if you are smart about it.[/QUOTE] Also, if drugs were legalized and regulated by the government, there would be standardized concentrations, making it harder to accidentally overdose.
[QUOTE=SamPerson123;23008853]Also, if drugs were legalized and regulated by the government, there would be standardized concentrations, making it harder to accidentally overdose.[/QUOTE] I dunno, imagine all the underhanded tactics of tobacco companies, but with things like Meth.
Raves are silly, I can't stand the music they play.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;23008933]I dunno, imagine all the underhanded tactics of tobacco companies, but with things like Meth.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure the government would keep a closer eye on drugs like that. Also, because it's an actual company distributing the drugs, people could sue them, meaning that they would be more inclined to make a safer product.
[QUOTE=shakey42;23008683] You can happily take many hard drugs occasionally and have no / very little negative side effects if you are smart about it. But most people who end up taking them don't know the consequences purely because they haven't correctly been educated about it and therefore do stupid shit.[/QUOTE] And unfortunately this causes the shitstorms in the media that leads to banning/heavier sentances for drugs because someone who was clueless took too much and died. I'd disagree about there being no negative effects, after all some of them tend to hit your further down in your life. Like several guys I know who used to be K heads in the 90's mostly have bladder problems now. [QUOTE=Mingebox;23008933]I dunno, imagine all the underhanded tactics of tobacco companies, but with things like Meth.[/QUOTE] Just curious, what tactics do you mean? I can't think of any that aren't outlawed now really, not saying they don't exist just they don't come to mind for me.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;23008933]I dunno, imagine all the underhanded tactics of tobacco companies, but with things like Meth.[/QUOTE] Ask yourself the legal age limit of buying drugs currently? Cause 90% of dealers + don't give a flying fuck as long as they get their cash. It's all about the money to be honest when it's in the black market, i've read that very high percentages of UK Cannabis is sandblasted, were it legal there would be regulations in place to prevent this, making it much safer. Also plants would be properly flushed before they are picked, reducing harmful chemicals etc.. [editline]06:50PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Callius;23009037] I'd disagree about there being no negative effects, after all some of them tend to hit your further down in your life. Like several guys I know who used to be K heads in the 90's mostly have bladder problems now. [/QUOTE] Unfortunatly i doubt they were taking Ketamine in a safe manner, every now and again in small doses it probably wouldn't cause these effects, rinsing it every weekend / week for a year / years Will. I'm not saying all hard drugs have no negative side effects either, i'm just saying a lot have waaaaay fewer than is perceived by the public. And with correct education people would be able to identify these drugs and avoid them. As most people who correctly research themselves do..
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[QUOTE=shakey42;23009190]Ask yourself the legal age limit of buying drugs currently? Cause 90% of dealers + don't give a flying fuck as long as they get their cash. It's all about the money to be honest when it's in the black market, [/QUOTE] Neither do cooperation who knowingly sell addictive and dangerous chemicals, but unlike drug dealers, they have huge PR and marketing departments, and lobbying power.
[QUOTE=Squad;23006520]Sorry you are wrong. Ecstasy is a stimulant and you pair that with a bunch of people crowded together all dancing. It gets pretty hot, heat leads to water loss, water loss leads to dehydration. [/QUOTE] Sooooooo.... You have to be in the middle of a desert with a bunch of people smothering you to take ecstasy?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;23009518]Neither do cooperation who knowingly sell addictive and dangerous chemicals, but unlike drug dealers, they have huge PR and marketing departments, and lobbying power.[/QUOTE] If you think a government who cracks down on alcohol and tobacco companies won't crack down on drugs companies you're wrong. Also look at the few places in the world where drugs are legal, Amsterdam has awesome quality weed, mabye not the best but the best readily available. And portugal, where pretty much all drugs are decriminalized, the pressure is relieved and the quality increases.
[QUOTE=shakey42;23009567]If you think a government who cracks down on alcohol and tobacco companies won't crack down on drugs companies you're wrong.[/QUOTE] he's right [quote]An analysis of autopsies in 2007 released this week by the Florida Medical Examiners Commission found that [B]the rate of deaths caused by prescription drugs was three times the rate of deaths caused by all illicit drugs combined.[/B][/quote] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/us/14florida.html[/url]
[QUOTE=JDK721;23009651]he's right [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/us/14florida.html[/url][/QUOTE] Are you stupid? That's because of the contents of the drugs, the quality of illegal drugs are only going to increase when made legal, thinking anything otherwise is beyond my comprehension. Those companies pay for medical journals which educate your doctors, which cause people to be prescribed them, which cause them to sell more. You only have to look at examples of counties where they have relaxed laws / don't criminalize illicit drugs to see how much better it works than prohibition. [img]http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/portugal595.gif[/img] [Quote=http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization]In the face of a growing number of deaths and cases of HIV linked to drug abuse, the Portuguese government in 2001 tried a new tack to get a handle on the problem—it decriminalized the use and possession of heroin, cocaine, marijuana, LSD and other illicit street drugs. The theory: focusing on treatment and prevention instead of jailing users would decrease the number of deaths and infections. Five years later, the number of deaths from street drug overdoses dropped from around 400 to 290 annually, and the number of new HIV cases caused by using dirty needles to inject heroin, cocaine and other illegal substances plummeted from nearly 1,400 in 2000 to about 400 in 2006, according to a report released recently by the Cato Institute, a Washington, D.C, libertarian think tank. [/Quote] [Quote=http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080] Notably, decriminalization has become increasingly popular in Portugal since 2001. Except for some far-right politicians, very few domestic political factions are agitating for a repeal of the 2001 law. And while there is a widespread perception that bureaucratic changes need to be made to Portugal's decriminalization framework to make it more efficient and effective, there is no real debate about whether drugs should once again be criminalized. More significantly, none of the nightmare scenarios touted by preenactment decriminalization opponents — from rampant increases in drug usage among the young to the transformation of Lisbon into a haven for "drug tourists" — has occurred. The political consensus in favor of decriminalization is unsurprising in light of the relevant empirical data. Those data indicate that decriminalization has had no adverse effect on drug usage rates in Portugal, which, in numerous categories, are now among the lowest in the EU, particularly when compared with states with stringent criminalization regimes.[B] Although postdecriminalization usage rates have remained roughly the same or even decreased slightly when compared with other EU states, drug-related pathologies — such as sexually transmitted diseases and deaths due to drug usage — have decreased dramatically.[/B] Drug policy experts attribute those positive trends to the enhanced ability of the Portuguese government to offer treatment programs to its citizens — enhancements made possible, for numerous reasons, by decriminalization.[/Quote] Now that they SUPPORT drug users instead of punishing them for doing what they want to their own body, they need to educate people how to do it safely and then both the rates of overdoses and drug related pathologies will dramatically decrease.
And this is why I don't go to parties :smug:
[QUOTE=Perfumly;23000168]Ecstasy makes you feel dehydrated, it doesn't dehydrate you. Derp[/QUOTE] Wow you're really dumb fool, your body temperature rises really high when you're on ecstasy and death by dehydration ( not drinking enough water while on it ) is really common. [editline]11:21AM[/editline] derp derp DERP
[QUOTE=GerardV2;23010122]Wow you're really dumb fool, your body temperature rises really high when you're on ecstasy and death by dehydration ( not drinking enough water while on it ) is really common. [editline]11:21AM[/editline] derp derp DERP[/QUOTE] DERP DERP all stimulants do, but not nearly enough to cause dehydration.
[QUOTE=GerardV2;23010122]Wow you're really dumb fool, your body temperature rises really high when you're on ecstasy and death by dehydration ( not drinking enough water while on it ) is really common. [editline]11:21AM[/editline] derp derp DERP[/QUOTE] i second this. many from EDC were taken and hospitalized due to dehydration (or anything related to ecstasy)
[QUOTE=revrend_slapaho;23011199]i second this. many from EDC were taken and hospitalized due to dehydration (or anything related to ecstasy)[/QUOTE] If you drink only alcohol all night and dance all night you also will get dehydrated..
Welcome to Los Angeles.
drugs are fucking stupid
[QUOTE=revrend_slapaho;22999394]this is so unfair, why do we/others have to suffer the punishment of banning raves (especially in or around the LA area)due to this girl?! i mean really? so fucking unfair...i blame her parents[/QUOTE] Not her fault alone. It is partially her fault, yes, but keep in mind 119 others did the same thing. That's why people care so much.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;23012539]drugs are fucking stupid[/QUOTE] Hi there, can i offer you a cold beverage while you remain trapped in that closed room you call life?
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;23012539]drugs are fucking stupid[/QUOTE] depends...
[QUOTE=GerardV2;23010122]Wow you're really dumb fool, your body temperature rises really high when you're on ecstasy and death by dehydration ( not drinking enough water while on it ) is really common. [editline]11:21AM[/editline] derp derp DERP[/QUOTE] No, Shut the fuck up. Ecstasy doesn't cause dehydration. it causes temperature rise, yes, it can cause sweating, yes, but it doesn't cause dehydration. Dehyrdation isn't even the common way to die on E, overhydration is.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;23012539]drugs are fucking stupid[/QUOTE] Smoke some weed, buzzkill.
[QUOTE=revrend_slapaho;23011199]i second this. many from EDC were taken and hospitalized due to dehydration (or anything related to ecstasy)[/QUOTE] Yeah, it was the drug, not the fact they're dancing within 30 cm of hundreds of other people that cause that. Fucking logic, how does it work?
It's hard to feel bad for someone who died due to carelessly taking drugs. If you're going to take drugs, you should be cautious.
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