• 15 yr-old girl OD'd at EDC
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[QUOTE=Cassettic;23037131]Well actually you're wrong two times, E more often than not hides the feeling of dehydration not the other way around. Here's your source [URL]http://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/ubnrp/mdma/thermoregulation.html[/URL] [B] "MDMA induces vasoconstriction (blood vessel narrowing) which slows heat loss. When overheating occurs, the body loses fluids. MDMA may mask the feeling of thirst. Dehydration impairs sweating and therefore cooling. It is essential to take in fluids in order to prevent dehydration."[/B][/QUOTE] Uhh, Caffiene, Nicotine and all the other stimulants do this. Derp. So doesn't alcohol.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23022482]You went to Coachella :crossarms: All three days? I went Sat/Sun.(Despite living in La quinta...)[/QUOTE] All three days! Best experience of my life. [editline]06:14PM[/editline] And my friends stayed at La quinta. You live there? Friday was great though!
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23037383]Uhh, Caffiene, Nicotine and all the other stimulants do this. Derp. So doesn't alcohol.[/QUOTE] Wasn't really the argument but thanks
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23047976]Wasn't really the argument but thanks[/QUOTE] No, it's on the same level as those. You're body isn't going to heat up much more than having any of that in your system. Sorry you're :downs: [editline]10:41PM[/editline] [QUOTE=cmanatlan;23043994]All three days! Best experience of my life. [editline]06:14PM[/editline] And my friends stayed at La quinta. You live there? Friday was great though![/QUOTE] I lived in La quinta for high school, i'm now in palm springs till august :/ I wish i went friday, i wanted to see she and him so badly... Zooey Deschanel <33333
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23048293]No, it's on the same level as those. You're body isn't going to heat up much more than having any of that in your system. Sorry you're :downs: [editline]10:41PM[/editline] I lived in La quinta for high school, i'm now in palm springs till august :/ I wish i went friday, i wanted to see she and him so badly... Zooey Deschanel <33333[/QUOTE] You're cool sticking up for the moderator and throwing out insults and such. Well sorry to break it to you buddy but E unlike the substances you've listed can cause severe Vasoconstriction especially at high doses unlike the possible slight cases of it occuring in a substance like Coffee. It's much easier due to the substance of E for Vasoconstriction to occur than most of the substances you've listed. Sorry you're :downs:
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23048505]You're cool sticking up for the moderator and throwing out insults and such. Well sorry to break it to you buddy but E unlike the substances you've listed can cause severe Vasoconstriction especially at high doses unlike the possible slight cases of it occuring in a substance like Coffee. It's much easier due to the substance of E for Vasoconstriction to occur than most of the substances you've listed. Sorry you're :downs:[/QUOTE] MDMA is on par with amphetamine. Are you saying that people who take adderal are likely to die from dehydration? I don't think so.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23048525]MDMA is on par with amphetamine. Are you saying that people who take adderal are likely to die from dehydration? I don't think so.[/QUOTE] Yes if they are ignoring the need to drink water and in a hot room clubbing. Just stop trying
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23048557]and in a hot room clubbing. [/QUOTE] .... No one has denied this
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23048576].... No one has denied this fact.[/QUOTE] They've denied that Exctasy causes dehydration due to the severity of Vasoconstriction and also causes the user to not be aware of their own dehydration.
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23048611]They've denied that Exctasy causes dehydration due to the severity of Vasoconstriction and also causes the user to not be aware of their own dehydration.[/QUOTE] stop calling it ecstasy, we're not talking about it with something else (even binders) it's MDMA. Have you ever actually taken it?
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23048643]stop calling it ecstasy, we're not talking about it with something else (even binders) it's MDMA. Have you ever actually taken it?[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA[/url] "MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, commonly known as ecstasy) is an entactogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine families." Have you? Taking it and understanding it are two completely different things.
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23048680][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA[/url] "MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, commonly known as ecstasy) is an entactogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine families." Have you? Taking it and understanding it are two completely different things.[/QUOTE] Ecstasy is when it's in a pill form with something else. MDMA is MDMA. And yes, i have several times and "masking" dehydration is bullshit, i'm thirsty as hell while i'm rolling even when it's 70~ degrees out side. It's the rave setting that fucks people over, not the drug.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23048704]Ecstasy is when it's in a pill form with something else. MDMA is MDMA. And yes, i have several times and "masking" dehydration is bullshit, i'm thirsty as hell while i'm rolling even when it's 70~ degrees out side. It's the rave setting that fucks people over, not the drug.[/QUOTE] Okay whatever buddy you're arguing semantics, I've never heard of anyone doing MDMA in any form other than Pill other than the occasional powder usage. And It's a combination of the drug and the rave :downs: No ones ever drank coffee and then died from partying
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23048762]Okay whatever buddy you're arguing semantics, I've never heard of anyone doing MDMA in any form other than Pill other than the occasional powder usage. And It's a combination of the drug and the rave :downs: No ones ever drank coffee and then died from partying[/QUOTE] You can get capsules of pure MDMA. You can get powder of MDMA Both are called either MDMA or Molly. Drug + rave = potential to be bad Drug - rave = not bad. Too bad MDMA is the second most used illegal drug next to weed. (First for manufactured) and there have only been a handful of deaths. Obviously it's not as bad as you're trying to make it out to be.
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23048800]You can get capsules of pure MDMA. You can get powder of MDMA Both are called either MDMA or Molly. Drug + rave = potential to be bad Drug - rave = not bad. Too bad MDMA is the second most used illegal drug next to weed. (First for manufactured) and there have only been a handful of deaths. Obviously it's not as bad as you're trying to make it out to be.[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to make it out to be bad at all. I just would like people to be aware of it's risks as they are deadly unlike other drugs such as Cannabis Go enjoy your E bro I'm not trying to stop you You understand what is proper use and what is not, the girl in this story however was not as lucky
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23016197]Ecstasy=MDMA LSD=/=LCD. Neither are life threatening drugs, nor do either carry a low LD.50 or a high risk of after affects. Abso-fucking-lutely they should be taken seriously, but you should also have knowledge about them, something you clearly do not. I'm older than you, have more experience in this area, and it's not an area of "Grow the fuck up". Maybe you should grow the fuck up?[/QUOTE] Oh, okay. You're older than me. Does that make you more responsible? I'm not saying they are lethal by scientific means, but I am saying that kids shouldn't fuck around and make a habit of doing these kinds of drugs. I've had my fair share of tripping balls, dropping doses, eating boomers, taking rolls, taking pills, smoking pot, smoking opium, and getting fucked up. I've since stopped because it doesn't lead to a productive lifestyle if you're doing them all the time like I was. I wasn't trying to be hostile, just trying to give firsthand, and (what I believe to be) genuine advice. You make drugs seem like a contest. Fuck you asshole.
[QUOTE=Loompa Lord;23073633]Oh, okay. You're older than me. Does that make you more responsible? I'm not saying they are lethal by scientific means, but I am saying that kids shouldn't fuck around and make a habit of doing these kinds of drugs. I've had my fair share of tripping balls, dropping doses, eating boomers, taking rolls, taking pills, smoking pot, [b]smoking opium[/b], and getting fucked up. I've since stopped because it doesn't lead to a productive lifestyle if you're doing them all the time like I was. I wasn't trying to be hostile, just trying to give firsthand, and (what I believe to be) genuine advice. You make drugs seem like a contest. Fuck you asshole.[/QUOTE] he makes drugs seem like a contest? You're the one listing off all the shit you've done to make it seem like you're more knowledgeable, and who the hell said you can't lead a productive life while taking LSD, smoking weed, rolling or smoking opium? Last i checked history is full of people who have and do lead productive lives while doing this shit. Grow up. Also, i highly doubt you smoked opium in high school
[quote]When asked how a 15-year-old was able to get into the event when the minimum age for entry was 16[/quote] And what difference does that make?
[QUOTE=Llivavin;23074421]he makes drugs seem like a contest? You're the one listing off all the shit you've done to make it seem like you're more knowledgeable, and who the hell said you can't lead a productive life while taking LSD, smoking weed, rolling or smoking opium? Last i checked history is full of people who have and do lead productive lives while doing this shit. Grow up. Also, i highly doubt you smoked opium in high school[/QUOTE] He said he had more experience on the topic, so I'm just trying to make a point that I've also been there/done that. And yes, i smoked opium occasionally in highschool because all my friends at the time were away at college in the loop and I was constantly out partying. I never paid for it, but I was just hanging with the wrong crowd. I'm just trying to shed light on past mistakes by telling people that drugs can only be used productively if you are responsible, which I was not. And when I say responsible, I mean being a productive member of society who has more to look forward to than just getting fucked up all the time. You can think whatever you like, but taking drugs in a "it's perfectly safe" approach is just naive.
[QUOTE=Loompa Lord;23084926]He said he had more experience on the topic, so I'm just trying to make a point that I've also been there/done that. And yes, i smoked opium occasionally in highschool because all my friends at the time were away at college in the loop and I was constantly out partying. I never paid for it, but I was just hanging with the wrong crowd. I'm just trying to shed light on past mistakes by telling people that drugs can only be used productively if you are responsible, which I was not. And when I say responsible, I mean being a productive member of society who has more to look forward to than just getting fucked up all the time. You can think whatever you like, but taking drugs in a [b]"it's perfectly safe"[/b] approach is just naive.[/QUOTE] He never said that. I never said that. I don't think anyone has said that.
if your gonna try to take drugs, just please make sure that you have a friend if worse comes to worst OR you can handle it
[QUOTE=Cassettic;23048557]Yes if they are ignoring the need to drink water and in a hot room clubbing. Just stop trying[/QUOTE] No one except retards will forget to drink on E.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23020460]Not all lives experience the same things, and yours will be missing a lot of things.[/QUOTE] Oh yes...puking on the floor and passing out. Really need to miss that.
[QUOTE=Loompa Lord;23084926]He said he had more experience on the topic, so I'm just trying to make a point that I've also been there/done that. And yes, i smoked opium occasionally in highschool because all my friends at the time were away at college in the loop and I was constantly out partying. I never paid for it, but I was just hanging with the wrong crowd. I'm just trying to shed light on past mistakes by telling people that drugs can only be used productively if you are responsible, which I was not. And when I say responsible, I mean being a productive member of society who has more to look forward to than just getting fucked up all the time. You can think whatever you like, but taking drugs in a "it's perfectly safe" approach is just naive.[/QUOTE] No one has said perfectly safe once here. Drugs are fucking dangerous, in my fucking posts I aknowledged this. Pay attention for fucks sakes. And I highly doubt you smoked opium. [editline]01:27PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;23086539]Oh yes...puking on the floor and passing out. Really need to miss that.[/QUOTE] I think in 7 years of drinking, partying, doing drugs, and other things, I've ended up on the floor puking and passed out twice, and that was from alcohol. I have never had a serious traumatic experience from drugs outside of the opiate family because [b]IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO HAVE ONE ON MOST SOFTER DRUGS.[/b]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23086592]No one has said perfectly safe once here. Drugs are fucking dangerous, in my fucking posts I aknowledged this. Pay attention for fucks sakes. And I highly doubt you smoked opium. [editline]01:27PM[/editline] I think in 7 years of drinking, partying, doing drugs, and other things, I've ended up on the floor puking and passed out twice, and that was from alcohol. I have never had a serious traumatic experience from drugs outside of the opiate family because [B]IT'S INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO HAVE ONE ON MOST SOFTER DRUGS.[/B][/QUOTE] Believe what you like. I'm just trying to give some honest advice. And by the way, it's much easier to have a psychologically traumatic experience on LSD than it is taking vics, or doing opium. Opiates aren't that much in the way of mind bending. I had more intense thoughts smoking weed than when I was doing opium (which wasn't a bad thing, but I've had some bad trips on acid before which can be a very anxious experience. I'm sure you're aware of that, and I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about. Chill man.)
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