• Mexican immigration laws tougher than any in US
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[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076583]It's better than treating illegals like they're god's gift to the fucking country.[/QUOTE] no it's really not better at all
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076583]It's better than treating illegals like they're god's gift to the fucking country.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma[/url]
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076595]I'm saying no to it.[/QUOTE] yeah, and you're wrong you can talk about opposite viewpoints and bla bla but we're talking about what's the best for the economy and the nation america cannot handle the removal of cheap labour
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076590]And trying to get rid of illegal immigrants is really just missing the point the US has done this to itself, it can't simply say no to it[/QUOTE] I just want them to be able to come in legally. But I agree, a lot of the southern economy relies on illegal immigrants.
[QUOTE=OvB;22076578]Committing crimes, maybe, but in politics you might end up just pissing people off and making enemies.[/QUOTE] Enemies will always be there. We could do every damn thing perfect, and we'd have enemies just for that reason alone. All one can do, whether it be an individual or a country, is to do the right thing, and if people dislike us for [i]those[/i] kind of decisions? Fuck 'em.
[QUOTE=OvB;22076613]I just want them to be able to come in legally. But I agree, a lot of the southern economy relies on illegal immigrants.[/QUOTE] Southern economy? who do you think consumes the stuff the south makes?
[QUOTE=Leon Trotsky;22076352]the US and mexico aren't really comparable though. the US economy absolutely depends on immigrants.[/QUOTE] Source. I'm pretty sure mooching off welfare and being a gardener isn't helpful to the economy.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076616]Enemies will always be there. We could do every damn thing perfect, and we'd have enemies just for that reason alone. All one can do, whether it be an individual or a country, is to do the right thing, and if people dislike us for [i]those[/i] kind of decisions? Fuck 'em.[/QUOTE] yeah you pretty much don't know anything about global politics, thanks for playing though
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076273]So they can have tough immigration laws, but we [I]can't?[/I][/QUOTE] lol, did you even read his post before quoting it?
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076616]Enemies will always be there. We could do every damn thing perfect, and we'd have enemies just for that reason alone. All one can do, whether it be an individual or a country, is to do the right thing, and if people dislike us for [I]those[/I] kind of decisions? Fuck 'em.[/QUOTE] The "right thing" is highly subject to opinion. See: Hitler.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;22076624]Source. I'm pretty sure mooching off welfare and being a gardener isn't helpful to the economy.[/QUOTE] yeah because all immigrants do is mooch off of welfare
[QUOTE=OvB;22076613]I just want them to be able to come in legally. But I agree, a lot of the southern economy relies on illegal immigrants.[/QUOTE] I don't understand why the method to come here legally is so convoluted. Like, when you hear stories of people finally becoming citizens after 20 years and $100,000. That makes me just as mad as the illegal immigration itself.
[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;22076624]Source. I'm pretty sure mooching off welfare and being a gardener isn't helpful to the economy.[/QUOTE] welfare requires you to be a legal citizen.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076273]So they can have tough immigration laws, but we [I]can't?[/I][/QUOTE] We're America. We're better, because we do, or at least are supposed to, do what is right for human rights, not what's cost-efficient.
[QUOTE=Lazor;22076639]yeah because all immigrants do is mooch off of welfare[/QUOTE] don't you have to be a citizen to get welfare?
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076634]yeah you pretty much don't know anything about global politics, thanks for playing though[/QUOTE] Sorry I'm not an appeaser to everyone else in the world.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076653]Sorry I'm not an appeaser to everyone else in the world.[/QUOTE] appeaser? you're just digging yourself a hole
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076623]Southern economy? who do you think consumes the stuff the south makes?[/QUOTE] Why are you arguing with me. I'm agreeing with you. I just want more legal immigrants. That is all.
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076645]welfare requires you to be a legal citizen.[/QUOTE] See: Identity Theft.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076653]Sorry I'm not an appeaser to everyone else in the world.[/QUOTE] hey maybe you should read that wiki article on false dilemmas posted a bit earlier
[QUOTE=OvB;22076664]Why are you arguing with me. I'm agreeing with you. I just want more legal immigrants. That is all.[/QUOTE] i'm just putting that out there
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076662]appeaser? you're just digging yourself a hole[/QUOTE] Yep, totally. It's obvious we have very different ideas about this illegal immigration issue.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076666]See: Identity Theft.[/QUOTE] this is just getting ridiculous please stop it
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076666]See: Identity Theft.[/QUOTE] identity theft? that's credit cards and online info, not social security and immigration forms
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076666]See: Identity Theft.[/QUOTE] Obviously Identity theft is easier than just working.
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076686]Yep, totally. It's obvious we have very different ideas about this illegal immigration issue.[/QUOTE] yeah except i actually researched things and you're just regurgitating talking point from a blog
[QUOTE=Lazor;22076670]hey maybe you should read that wiki article on false dilemmas posted a bit earlier[/QUOTE] oh ya cause i dont kno wat a false dilemma is EDITED: You guys don't think identity theft is how they get welfare, and such other things? Wow, live near the border for a while, and watch the local news. You'll learn a thing or two, and if we're lucky, you'll have shit stolen from you by illegal immigrants.
fuck i've been in the US legally for 8 years and i'm not eligible for welfare
[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076666]See: Identity Theft.[/QUOTE] i'd bet that .00001% of illegals have stolen an identity to get welfare
[QUOTE=Mexican;22076651]We're America. We're better, because we do, or at least are supposed to, do what is right for human rights, not what's cost-efficient.[/QUOTE] Being cost-efficient is secondary in laws like that. If they want our rights, they need to go through the legal system, and get citizenship.
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