• Mexican immigration laws tougher than any in US
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[QUOTE=MasterChef;22076695]oh ya cause i dont kno wat a false dilemma is[/QUOTE] well then stop using them or are you a fascist
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076703]Being cost-efficient is secondary in laws like that. If they want our rights, they need to go through the legal system, and get citizenship.[/QUOTE] rights are not exclusive to united states citizens
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076699]fuck i've been in the US legally for 8 years and i'm not eligible for welfare[/QUOTE] Where did you come from?
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076703]Being cost-efficient is secondary in laws like that. If they want our rights, they need to go through the legal system, and get citizenship.[/QUOTE] do you know how hard it is? how long it takes? how arbitrarily you can get rejected? for unskilled workers, getting citizenship is nigh-impossible. for skilled workers, it takes years and thousands of dollars
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076703]Being cost-efficient is secondary in laws like that. If they want our rights, they need to go through the legal system, and get citizenship.[/QUOTE] Yeah durr. Here you go again assuming I like illegal immigrants just because I oppose the bill.
[QUOTE=OvB;22076711]Where did you come from?[/QUOTE] he's a tea-drinker [editline]12:47AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Mexican;22076715]Yeah durr. Here you go again assuming I like illegal immigrants just because I oppose the bill.[/QUOTE] hey there's no such thing as a false dilemma according to him
Oh this was hard to find :downs: [URL]http://redtape.msnbc.com/2006/03/hidden_cost_of_.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/23/20080423identity-theft0423-ON.html[/URL] And this, and from 4 years ago. I've seen more up to date stories, but can't find them as of yet. [URL="http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/23/20080423identity-theft0423-ON.html"]http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1214/p01s01-ussc.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mingebox;22076249]Makes sense, as the only people would ever want to move to Mexico are dangerous fugitives.[/QUOTE] Or retirees. But they can afford to wait however long and to pay whatever price most of the time. I agree with their laws, but their president should just shut his mouth and get to work fixing his own country before claiming anything about mine.
I wonder what percentage of Mexico would immigrate to the US if we just opened the boarders.
[QUOTE=OvB;22076764]I wonder what percentage of Mexico would immigrate to the US if we just opened the boarders.[/QUOTE] might be like the opening of the berlin wall
[QUOTE=OvB;22076711]Where did you come from?[/QUOTE] UK I still have to pay British taxes
[QUOTE=OvB;22076764]I wonder what percentage of Mexico would immigrate to the US if we just opened the boarders.[/QUOTE] I'm not really well informed but I don't think it would be that many. It's fairly easy to get over the border now if you want to so if it was easier, it wouldn't be a massive increase.
Umm I'm pretty sure that the US economy is heavily influenced by illegal immigrants. Someone earlier said something about if they all suddenly left then American citizens would just fill the jobs, but its not as simple as that. Many employers, especially in Agriculture, actually prefer to pay illegal migrants for labor because they can pay them below minimum wage and thus save some money. With an illegal worker, especially in a farming position, they can be working without ever having a record of payment or employment, fairly easily. Sure its illegal for the farmers to do this, but they do actually pay for labor under the table quite often. Now that you know that think about what would happen if American citizens filled those jobs. First the farmers would have to pay them more and provide the benefits required by law. This will greatly increase the expenses of farmers. In order to keep a reasonable profit, the farmers would then have to raise prices of goods. And one of the main products produced by agriculture is food. I think that I shouldn't have to explain how huge an increase in all locally grown food prices would be on are economy. On top of that, American farmers provide many other things essential to daily life that would also skyrocket in price. So while many Americans don't like to admit it, we are very much economically dependent of these workers, and if we suddenly deported all of them, there would be massive changes. Sure more American citizens would have jobs but there are other things that have to be considered. [editline]10:18PM[/editline] And there are sooo many other factors to be considered as well.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22076273]So they can have tough immigration laws, but we [I]can't?[/I][/QUOTE] I've said this before, but one of the reasons america made it so well is because of it's liberal immigration laws.(relative to mexico anyway) [editline]10:34PM[/editline] so go ahead, make stricter immigration laws, It won't end well though.
I love Mexicans. They painted my living room for half of what the contractors were asking for.
[QUOTE=thisispain;22076790]UK I still have to pay British taxes[/QUOTE] The hell? You live in another country. How are they making you pay taxes to them? And what if you refuse? [editline]02:48PM[/editline] [QUOTE=monkey11;22076916]Umm I'm pretty sure that the US economy is heavily influenced by illegal immigrants. Someone earlier said something about if they all suddenly left then American citizens would just fill the jobs, but its not as simple as that. Many employers, especially in Agriculture, actually prefer to pay illegal migrants for labor because they can pay them below minimum wage and thus save some money. With an illegal worker, especially in a farming position, they can be working without ever having a record of payment or employment, fairly easily. Sure its illegal for the farmers to do this, but they do actually pay for labor under the table quite often. Now that you know that think about what would happen if American citizens filled those jobs. First the farmers would have to pay them more and provide the benefits required by law. This will greatly increase the expenses of farmers. In order to keep a reasonable profit, the farmers would then have to raise prices of goods. And one of the main products produced by agriculture is food. I think that I shouldn't have to explain how huge an increase in all locally grown food prices would be on are economy. On top of that, American farmers provide many other things essential to daily life that would also skyrocket in price. So while many Americans don't like to admit it, we are very much economically dependent of these workers, and if we suddenly deported all of them, there would be massive changes. Sure more American citizens would have jobs but there are other things that have to be considered.[/QUOTE] None of that justifies illegals taking those jobs, nor does it justify the fact that they're being paid under minimum wage.
[QUOTE=the_KMM;22085509]The hell? You live in another country. How are they making you pay taxes to them? And what if you refuse?[/QUOTE] If I refuse I lose my British Citizenship.
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