March 26 Democratic caucuses — Does Bernie Sanders Still Have a Chance at a Last-Minute Comeback? - Polidicks

[QUOTE=rilez;50011995][URL]http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/why-bernie-sanders-isn-t-dropping-out-despite-hillary-s-n545646[/URL] They didn't say it, but that's the argument they're framing. "But while the caucus format tends to favor Sanders, it also imposes barriers to voter participation that could be seen as at odds to his core message.In fact, Sanders does well in caucuses largely because they're more time intensive and complicated than primaries, requiring voters to assemble at one of a relatively small number of locations at a certain time and stay for several hours."[/QUOTE] I believe you now. I've heard a lot of allegations about NBC and media bias towards Hilary and I didn't know they were true. Did some googling and a lot of sites are reporting that NBC loves Clinton and hates Bernie.

They're also making sure to include super-delegates in all their totals tonight, implying that Sanders has to win 75%+ of the remaining delegates to stand a chance.

I mean, to be fair, caucuses [b]are[/b] bullshit. I understand that they only say that when they favor Sanders, but caucuses are totally bullshit.

[QUOTE=rilez;50011995]requiring voters to assemble at one of a relatively small number of locations at a certain time and stay for several hours[/QUOTE] Neither of those actually happened here. My mother and brother arrived there at 10AM, did the whole caucus thing, came home at about noon. The way I hear it, there were also an extremely large number of locations because they were expecting a good size turnout (and hoo boy did Everett deliver). Maybe CNN/MSNBC were looking at Arizona when they said that, or maybe they're just pulling those statements out of their ass. But if you want an example of caucusing handled about as well as it's probably ever going to be, look to us. [editline]26th March 2016[/editline] also i'm not sure it merits a thread, but [url=http://www.kiro7.com/news/ben-jerry-co-founder-throws-weight-behind-bernie-sanders/178747362]Ben Cohen (as in "& Jerry's") officially endorsed Bernie the other day[/url]

ben and jerry have supported sanders for a while now they even made a limited edition flavor of ice cream that has yet to be released to the public [img]http://i.imgur.com/VXpPiMy.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=geel9;50012212]I mean, to be fair, caucuses [b]are[/b] bullshit. I understand that they only say that when they favor Sanders, but caucuses are totally bullshit.[/QUOTE] I'd rather caucus than participate in a closed primary. What happened in Arizona was terrible, and I live in NY, which could experience similar problems. [editline]26th March 2016[/editline] I'd argue that closed primaries are actually far less democratic, as they force you to vote party line. What if I want to vote third party? Maybe I'm a registered Democrat, but a Republican candidate swung my vote? Oh well

[QUOTE=rilez;50012295]I'd rather caucus than participate in a closed primary. What happened in Arizona was terrible, and I live in NY, which could experience similar problems.[/QUOTE] But those aren't the only options rilez!

[QUOTE=Wii60;50012276]ben and jerry have supported sanders for a while now they even made a limited edition flavor of ice cream that has yet to be released to the public [img]http://i.imgur.com/VXpPiMy.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] If this is real, this is fucking cringeworthy tbh

Waiting for Hawaii results at the edge of my seat, here. Could you imagine if it was a Bernie sweep?

[QUOTE=geel9;50012313]But those aren't the only options rilez![/QUOTE] Yes, open primaries are ultimately the best choice

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50012318]If this is real, this is fucking cringeworthy tbh[/QUOTE] How? I think the design idea is pretty cool

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50012318]If this is real, this is fucking cringeworthy tbh[/QUOTE] I think its cute. [media][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3qN-BU1b2M[/url][/media]

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;50012318]If this is real, this is fucking cringeworthy tbh[/QUOTE] ben and jerry's does gimmick ice creams like this all the time

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50012427]ben and jerry's does gimmick ice creams like this all the time[/QUOTE] yup [url]http://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/limited-batch-flavors[/url]

Caucuses vary a lot state to state. At the caucus I helped run at my college in Minnesota, you waited in line, registered to vote in the state, and then cast a paper ballot and were free to leave. After that, people who wanted to participate could stay and vote for delegates, chairmen, and people to count up the ballots. We had ~800 turn out and maybe 25 or so stayed for the whole caucus. It varies state to state and precinct to precinct. The first people in line at my caucus finished voting in about 20 minutes. The people who waited and got stuck in line for 2 hours took about 2 hours to vote.

[QUOTE=Wii60;50012436]yup [url]http://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/limited-batch-flavors[/url][/QUOTE] The collab they did with New Belgium Brewery was the best thing I had ever tasted [url]http://www.benjerry.com/flavors/salted-caramel-brownie-ale-ice-cream[/url]

americone dream is my favorite flavor, glad they made it a permanent flavor. any updates on hawaii yet

Results should start coming in soon since they started 80minutes ago.

[QUOTE=Wii60;50012596]americone dream is my favorite flavor, glad they made it a permanent flavor. any updates on hawaii yet[/QUOTE] It's 2PM in Hawaii right now so we probably won't know for sure for awhile

Guardian says Hawaii results aren't expected until after midnight eastern. Not sure why they are using eastern for Hawaii but yeah like 4 1/2 hours to go.

[QUOTE=EcksDee;50011398]It's a statistical measure that basically says "This is how important this word or phrase is in a piece of text" So Sanders keeps talking about his issues, which are, as you can see, numerous and I imagine also echo throughout the American people, which will only become stronger as his name recognition increases. Clinton talks about "I will do, I know how, It's important, Do more" without actually naming the issues she stands for in her campaign. Immigration reform is great, yeah, but doesn't have nearly the same impact as Healthcare for all (which like 60-70% of Americans have wanted for decades now, but dem darn conspiratorial wealthy medical companies have fought against it) or having a "political revolution" or you guys having "More people in jail than any other country" (Which he can add to by saying "per capita")[/QUOTE] Why you think 538 is shit? Because it doesn't pander to your bias? They did well in their predictions in the Democratic primary so far, except for that outlier with Michigan. Also your assertion is shit. These phrase are just the most repeated phrase, nothing more. It doesn't mean that either side talks about the issues more than the other. So it could be that Clinton would say "I know how to reduce the threat of Islamic terrorism" so a candidate can talk about an issue with "I know how to" as a most repeated phrase. On the flip side, I can say the same same buzz word like "health care" or "Wall St." even if the question is about foreign policy, and they'll end up as my most repeated words.

Lol he could be at the other end of the universe and Facepunch would still be saying "Sanders has a good chance of winning I think"

So what if Bernie won these States? NY,CA, and PA aren't going to be easy. Clinton will win NY in a landslide, and California by 55-45. She won them against Obama too.

[QUOTE=Britain;50012649]Lol he could be at the other end of the universe and Facepunch would still be saying "Sanders has a good chance of winning I think"[/QUOTE] I don't see many people here saying he has a good chance at winning, just that he has a chance. If people want to cling on to that hope then so be it, who are you to judge?

[QUOTE=Britain;50012649]Lol he could be at the other end of the universe and Facepunch would still be saying "Sanders has a good chance of winning I think"[/QUOTE] its almost like people who want sanders to win hope that sanders will pull through and win. what a shocker

[QUOTE=Britain;50012649]Lol he could be at the other end of the universe and Facepunch would still be saying "Sanders has a good chance of winning I think"[/QUOTE] haha those idiots voting for the person they think is best for their country as opposed to voting for the person most likely to win like me! those LOSERS.

I don't know much about American politics, but from what I understand, each candidate gets delegates based on the percentage of votes they get (or get all delegates of that state given to the majority winner in specific states)? And they need a specific amount of delegates to get nominated for their specific party? If all of the above are not completely wrong, who choses which nominated candidate becomes the "president" candidate of the party?

[QUOTE=i_speel_good;50012697]I don't know much about American politics, but from what I understand, each candidate gets delegates based on the percentage of votes they get (or get all delegates of that state given to the majority winner in specific states)? And they need a specific amount of delegates to get nominated for their specific party? If all of the above are not completely wrong, who choses which nominated candidate becomes the "president" candidate of the party?[/QUOTE] There's a national convention that happens for each party nearer to the fall, where the party representatives (state delegates and members of the democratic national caucus/republican national caucus) I believe picks from there. See [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Convention[/url] for the dems and [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_National_Convention[/url] for the GOP. However it states in the article for the DNC that usually you'll know who will get there well in advance (delegate count) so we'll see a winner before then probably.

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;50012667]So what if Bernie won these States? NY,CA, and PA aren't going to be easy. Clinton will win NY in a landslide, and California by 55-45. She won them against Obama too.[/QUOTE] Don't predict states that haven't come yet, especially California. He has a lot of time to make up a 6 point deficit in California and hasn't even started campaigning in NY or PA yet. His campaign has registered tens of thousands of voters in each state, however.

[QUOTE=i_speel_good;50012697]I don't know much about American politics, but from what I understand, each candidate gets delegates based on the percentage of votes they get (or get all delegates of that state given to the majority winner in specific states)? And they need a specific amount of delegates to get nominated for their specific party? If all of the above are not completely wrong, who choses which nominated candidate becomes the "president" candidate of the party?[/QUOTE] Basically, in the Democratic primary, all states are proportional - the percentage you get determines what percentage of delegates you gain from the state. States all have different processes for determining who gets the delegates - some have caucuses (where people meet up and have a whole several-hour event to vote based on standing on sides of a room and counting) and some have primaries (more traditional voting with ballots, usually handled by actual state government). Some caucuses are just like primaries, where you can drop off ballots and leave, and some are long events. Both of these types can be open or closed - open primaries allow anyone to vote, no matter what party they are registered to. Closed primaries require you to already be registered with that party to vote. Registration varies based on state - some allow you to register with the party more easily than others, and some close registration weeks/months before the primaries. The delegates are determined on the precinct/district level in each state, and then sent to the state convention, where they cast their votes based on the makeup of the votes in the smaller caucuses/primaries. The state delegates (e.g. Washington's 101) then get locked in or "pledged" and later get sent to the democratic national convention to cast their votes. The Democratic party also has "superdelegates," which are high-standing party members (e.g. senators, congressmen, etc) that are not pledged to a particular candidate and can vote however they want (technically) at the national convention - but they will almost undoubtedly vote based on the makeup of the pledged delegates. They can say they'll vote for someone or endorse them, but they aren't technically locked in until they actually cast their vote at the physical national convention. The party selects a presidential candidate based on the national convention - whoever has the most delegates will [i]usually[/i] win the nomination - there's a certain threshold at which point that candidate effectively wins the nomination once they hit that number of delegates. It's complicated as shit. Each state has a different process for casting votes for delegates, plus registering with the party to vote in the general, and territories + global can vote for additional delegates (even though they can't vote in the actual general election).