March 26 Democratic caucuses — Does Bernie Sanders Still Have a Chance at a Last-Minute Comeback? - Polidicks

If he can win NY it'll be the biggest comeback of the century holy shit. It sounds unlikely though.

goddamn how long does it take to elect a president every election its the same shit with months of caucuses and delegates and whatever the fuck else why cant you just decide on a specific day or week to hold national elections and just get it over with that same week instead of drawing it on and on with predictions and predictions of the predictions and auhguhsdfnsd fuck just count the damn votes and the one with the most votes wins its not that hard

Note: I do think Clinton will take NY slightly, that's expected but margin-wise WILL be close. I expect the Occupy Wallstreet crowd to come back.

the american political system is already a joke anyway so why do you insist on making it an even bigger joke by shoving so much useless political bureaucracy into it

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;50015419]If he can win NY it'll be the biggest comeback of the century holy shit. It sounds unlikely though.[/QUOTE] It is unlikely. NY is a closed primary, Clinton's 'home' state, home of Wall Street, registering as democrat is already closed (I believe), many people have had their registration revoked etc etc. It's a perfect storm of things that don't favor sanders. [url=http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=CF]Demographics for New York, 2010 Census data, if anyone's interested[/url]

[QUOTE=Melnek;50015440]goddamn how long does it take to elect a president every election its the same shit with months of caucuses and delegates and whatever the fuck else why cant you just decide on a specific day or week to hold national elections and just get it over with that same week instead of drawing it on and on with predictions and predictions of the predictions and auhguhsdfnsd fuck just count the damn votes and the one with the most votes wins its not that hard[/QUOTE] this is the election for the election, and every state handles it at a different date and time etc etc

[QUOTE=Melnek;50015440]goddamn how long does it take to elect a president every election its the same shit with months of caucuses and delegates and whatever the fuck else why cant you just decide on a specific day or week to hold national elections and just get it over with that same week instead of drawing it on and on with predictions and predictions of the predictions and auhguhsdfnsd fuck just count the damn votes and the one with the most votes wins its not that hard[/QUOTE] because that leaves no room for someone like Bernie Sanders to gain traction???????

[QUOTE=Melnek;50015440]goddamn how long does it take to elect a president every election its the same shit with months of caucuses and delegates and whatever the fuck else why cant you just decide on a specific day or week to hold national elections and just get it over with that same week instead of drawing it on and on with predictions and predictions of the predictions and auhguhsdfnsd fuck just count the damn votes and the one with the most votes wins its not that hard[/QUOTE] If it "wasn't that hard", we'd be doing it instead. Our political system isn't perfect, but we're a country of 319 million people. You need time to travel, time to campaign, just in general, time to win people over and get their vote.

A defeat in NY for Clinton would be a massive humiliating blow to her campaign, which is why the Sanders campaign is pouring millions into winning it.

[QUOTE=Melnek;50015440]goddamn how long does it take to elect a president every election its the same shit with months of caucuses and delegates and whatever the fuck else why cant you just decide on a specific day or week to hold national elections and just get it over with that same week instead of drawing it on and on with predictions and predictions of the predictions and auhguhsdfnsd fuck just count the damn votes and the one with the most votes wins its not that hard[/QUOTE] Don't worry, Bernie agrees: [video=youtube;lpyLPfNj964]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpyLPfNj964[/video]

[QUOTE=Morgen;50015412]Was Clinton not the senator for New York? NY is her state then and that almost guarantees she will win NY. Sanders just has to not lose in a landslide and he will be okay. If Sanders was to beat Clinton in NY then it would be game over for her.[/QUOTE] NY is also filled with progressive hipster neckbeards, do not underestimate the turnout of the neck beard! But really it could go either way

Can you imagine Bernie winning New York by a landslide? The medias like CNN will go apeshit if that ever happens.

what'll happen if sanders loses New York but somehow gets California?

[QUOTE=Chaitin;50015650]Can you imagine Bernie winning New York by a landslide? The medias like CNN will go apeshit if that ever happens.[/QUOTE] This is the democrat's election to lose. If that happened it'll pretty much mean the next president is decided, the reaction would be immense and glorious.

[QUOTE=Cone;50015673]what'll happen if sanders loses New York but somehow gets California?[/QUOTE] I don't know the delegate counts for NY and Cali, but obviously losing New York doesn't mean anything if he can make up the delegate count in other states. It's kinda senseless to talk about hypothetical scenarios like this, especially with vague "lose" criteria - losing can mean he got anywhere from 0 to <50% of the vote, and there's a pretty big difference in the end result.

[QUOTE=Chaitin;50015650]Can you imagine Bernie winning New York by a landslide? The medias like CNN will go apeshit if that ever happens.[/QUOTE] Even holding about even would be quite a poor showing for Hillary given that it's a very favorable state for her. [QUOTE=Cone;50015673]what'll happen if sanders loses New York but somehow gets California?[/QUOTE] It's all about the margins; nothing is winner take all, but CA is worth quite a bit more than NY so Sanders could easily make up losses in NY. Also, NY is worth a lot but there's still a few more high delegate states as well.

[QUOTE=Lunik;50015383]I hope everyone who walked during that Occupy thing comes out in full force for NYC[/QUOTE] You're assuming everyone at Occupy was a New York resident and not just a bunch of people from out of state with nothing better to do than sit around.

[QUOTE=Melnek;50015440]goddamn how long does it take to elect a president every election its the same shit with months of caucuses and delegates and whatever the fuck else why cant you just decide on a specific day or week to hold national elections and just get it over with that same week instead of drawing it on and on with predictions and predictions of the predictions and auhguhsdfnsd fuck just count the damn votes and the one with the most votes wins its not that hard[/QUOTE] I think this falls under the purview of "voting reform" - something that literally nobody who is in power wants to do.

I know for a fact my county in NY will be for Bernie pretty much like 90 to 10, but only because we are 15 mins away from Burlington. I see tons of people with bernie bumper stickers and sweatshirts, haven't seen one Hillary thing. My county counts for basically nothing though of the NY population.

Occupy Wall Street movement is not that different from Bernie's campaign in terms of demographics: the majority of those protesters were white liberals from the middle class, 70% of them were identified as independent, and a lot of them used Facebook/Twitter as their main means of communication to spread the movement.

If Sanders takes Wisconsin and Wyoming, that means he'll go into New York having won 8/9 of his last contests including Americans abroad, correct? That seems at least slightly promising considering recent national polling places him on equal footing with Clinton.

So maybe Kansas hasn't let us down just yet?

[QUOTE=rilez;50015333]Upstate NY is a fair bit more conservative than the rest of the state. I live upstate, and I'd say we're fairly similar to New Hampshire or Vermont conservatives: mostly libertarian, maybe even Rockefeller Republicans, not deep social conservatism. There are some counties where he could do very well: Erie County (mostly white, fairly liberal county) Monroe County (big college area) Onondaga County (syracuse university) Tompkins County (cornell, ithaca college) Albany County (mostly white, albany colleges) And probably some more, but those are the big ones off the top of my head. The tough part is keeping NYC close, which is demographically all over the place, and has a [B]HUGE[/B] number of people to GOTV.[/QUOTE] Almost nothing but Bernie stickers and signs here in Monroe. But like you said, mostly because this is a college haven. All the surrounding spots between here and Buffalo or Syracuse are pretty much Trump territory, haven't seen much support for Clinton though.

Just want to put my two cents in about NY. I live in Warren County. I actually did a few semesters at Siena College where a lot of the NY polls are coming out from. Siena College is a very conservative private Catholic college and a majority of the students there supported Trump or Cruz last semester which I think is indicative of the more conservative atmosphere you get in a lot of areas in upstate NY. I have seen so many Bernie shirts/bumper stickers/signs in the areas of Saratoga County, Warren County, and Washington County. Saratoga County is a very liberal county and is the headquarters for a very large Bernie group Saratogians for Bernie which has been canvassing areas as far north as Plattsburgh (near the canadian border) and as far south as Albany. I have a strong feeling that Bernie will be able to grab the majority of every county outside of NYC if he plays his cards right. He will have trouble in the areas immediately within proximity Albany County.

[QUOTE=Xanadu;50016091]Almost nothing but Bernie stickers and signs here in Monroe. But like you said, mostly because this is a college haven. All the surrounding spots between here and Buffalo or Syracuse are pretty much Trump territory, haven't seen much support for Clinton though.[/QUOTE] Here in Middletown I see a fair mix of Bernie and Hillary, lately there have been quite a few canvassers for Sanders, though.

Imo signs and bumper stickers don't guarantee a victory, Clinton fans are generally pretty quiet about their support. NY is her home turf as much as Vermont was Bernie's so I wouldn't be too hopeful about a victory. He can still get 55%~ in other states to surpass her.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;50016197]Imo signs and bumper stickers don't guarantee a victory, Clinton fans are generally pretty quiet about their support. NY is her home turf as much as Vermont was Bernie's so I wouldn't be too hopeful about a victory. He can still get 55%~ in other states to surpass her.[/QUOTE] It's all anecdotal, yeah. But having it out there also puts their name out there, mostly applying to Bernie.

I am on long island and I cannot find a single person who actually supports hillary. I am really hoping for the best here

I don't think any of us personally knows any Democrats that would side with Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. Still wont mean they are not going to somehow show up miraculously at polling stations across the nations.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;50016229]I don't think any of us personally knows any Democrats that would side with Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. Still wont mean they somehow show up miraculously at polling stations across the nations.[/QUOTE] The majority of Democrats I've talked to support Clinton because they agree with her policies and don't care that much about the email scandal or campaign financing. [editline]27th March 2016[/editline] I haven't heard much outright negative about Sanders, people just don't really seem to know where he stands, or just see him as a less electable Clinton.