Alt-Right attempts to organize 'DeploraBall' convention, goes about as well as expected - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51614124]'ere[/QUOTE] Best ban reason I've seen in quite some time.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51612434]Anyone notice that the far right have skins as thin as the most sheltered, deluded Tumblr SJW? I think when you go far enough to either end of the political spectrum you come full circle.[/QUOTE] Which is why when the Alt-Right goes on about how terrible "political correctness" is and how only sheltered people could possible want it, it's really nothing but projection on their part. They project their own failings and worthlessness onto others. "I'm not the one with the problem/an inferiority complex, it's everybody else! It's those damn liberals/Democrats/college kids/etc.!" They're some of the most insecure, sheltered, and yes delusional human beings you will ever meet-- whether we're talking about their belief in Trump and his presidency (which has completely gone to hell; "Drain the Swamp" was complete bullshit, as has been proven by him going back on virtually all of his promises) and their sympathy towards Putin or their absurd conspiratorial ideas about the New World Order, the Jews, Muslims and immigrants, women, etc. This shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone. We're talking about a group of people who have no actual ideology, no set goals, no cohesiveness with each other, and who suffer immediate butthurt about some of the most trivial things imaginable. They burned this guy's book (Cernovich) in anger lol.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51614124]'ere[/QUOTE] thanks, hottie

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51614124]'ere[/QUOTE] holy shit

You mean where you live "gas the kikes" isn't a standard greeting?

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51614124]'ere[/QUOTE] that post might actually be my proudest facepunch moment

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51614022] [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Thanks for finally giving up the ghost. Self-professed racist and bizarre human being with a ridiculous ban history." - Big Dumb American))[/highlight][/QUOTE] Was only a matter of time

[QUOTE=archangel125;51612434]Anyone notice that the far right have skins as thin as the most sheltered, deluded Tumblr SJW? I think when you go far enough to either end of the political spectrum you come full circle.[/QUOTE] The horseshoe theory is a thing, for good reason [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory[/url]

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51614056]And on the topic of the thread itself, this kind of fracturing is normal for communities when they become too large and the immediacy of what brought them together is no longer urgently present. Trump won the election, now the battle's over and the rest is skirmishes that have much less noticeable impact. Momentum is confused and the alt-right now becomes tugged in multiple directions. Now becomes its true test of cohesion. It'll splinter and flounder like Occupy Wall Street if it doesn't find a new quest soon. And hopefully that quest isn't "hate crimes".[/QUOTE] Similar to "anonymous", "gamergate", "black lives matter" and such - these online movements can quickly spiral and fracture because although they have the same general goals there's no strong organization or figurehead that the group can rally behind. So once it goes beyond "use this hashtag" or "comment on these videos" or "run this script on a poll" things start to get a little bananas.

Can someone explain to me why Gamergate is both still relevant and why it's even being mentioned in this thread?

[QUOTE=Killer monkey;51614985]Can someone explain to me why Gamergate is both still relevant and why it's even being mentioned in this thread?[/QUOTE] It's not still relevant. It's being mentioned as an example of a group that went bugfuck crazy, alongside the alt-right and BLM. Which is a set of characterizations I don't fully agree with. Gamergate [I]started[/I] as a paranoid witch-hunt, but the cover they adopted ("ethics in games journalism") actually grew larger than the original purpose (misogyny), so it was a reverse of the normal process. I've also yet to see strong evidence the BLM movement has devolved into madness - rather the opposite, in fact, because anytime an already-crazy person does some bullshit in their name, they get immediately denounced by all the major figures of the movement. I'd even say the alt-right isn't a good example of a group growing more extremist and less sane by driving off moderate, normal members. Even when the alt-right was an obscure, mostly-academic group, they were writing papers like "Would it [I]really[/I] be all that bad if we murdered all the blacks?". Then they sort-of merged with the Tea Party, and that combination of anti-establishment "gubbermint wanna take muh GUNS away!" with "everything was better when America was just rich white dudes" turned out to be marginally more popular than "that woman who's been trying to become President since 1992". But the alt-right was always insane racist nutjobs dressing up like a serious, sane political movement. They just managed to police the language until they could argue that "alt-right" wasn't fundamentally racist (quite ironic for a group that rants endlessly about liberals trying to police language, but hypocrisy has also been an alt-right cornerstone since the beginning).

[QUOTE=Killer monkey;51614985]Can someone explain to me why Gamergate is both still relevant and why it's even being mentioned in this thread?[/QUOTE] It's still relevant because the narratives built in and around it are convenient for other groups.

I think it's funny that someone going to the "DeploraBall," whose name comes from a satirical mocking of Hillary's statement that Trump supporters are all deplorable people, is himself a shining example of the fact that Hillary was not entirely wrong. Like a KKK meetup called "A Gathering of Ignorant, Redneck Racists." Your mocking doesn't mean much when you're obvious evidence that the other side's point has merit.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;51615091]I think it's funny that someone going to the "DeploraBall," whose name comes from a satirical mocking of Hillary's statement that Trump supporters are all deplorable people, is himself a shining example of the fact that Hillary was not entirely wrong. Like a KKK meetup called "A Gathering of Ignorant, Redneck Racists." Your mocking doesn't mean much when you're obvious evidence that the other side's point has merit.[/QUOTE] Like with any cult these hacks are only concerned with narrative control and how many vulnerable people they can suck in

[QUOTE=Phycosymo;51615116]Like with any cult these hacks are only concerned with narrative control and how many vulnerable people they can suck in[/QUOTE] You've basically just described every single political party.....

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51615128]You've basically just described every single political party.....[/QUOTE] Y'know what they say: If it works, it works.

[QUOTE=Zyler;51615191]If it works, it works.[/QUOTE] If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51613988]You sure drank the hillary coolaid... this is gamergate all over again and in lets say 2 to 5 years all of you will be denying you ever said anything like this, claiming stuff like "yea, some of them were but the main message behind it was getting the political correctness out of politics" or some shit.[/QUOTE] Go to /pol/ or r/altright and see who is truly behind the movement. I'll give you a hint: the third post down on r/altright is about Jews, the 5th post down includes neo-Nazi symbolism. [editline]2nd January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Killer monkey;51614985]Can someone explain to me why Gamergate is both still relevant and why it's even being mentioned in this thread?[/QUOTE] People trying to jump to the "we're just a persecuted movement that's been slandered by the media" excuse. The difference is GG actually had decent goals and people, the alt-right is literally the embodiment of /pol/ mentality.

i still can't believe that political people and mainstream media have named something that has been around for more than a decade "alt right" and that it's stuck with even facepunchers although i guess /b/tards and /pol/acks have been called a lot of things in msm, and i guess "trolls" just wasn't good enough now. if we call them "alt-right" then i guess we can somehow attribute their behavior to the right, or conservatives, or republicans, and of course then attribute them to trump. yknow, the alt right pro-trump neo nazi white supremacists that call trump a jew because he doesn't want to outright nuke israel. i guess ?????? i just think the "alt right" thing is fucking nonsense most of the time. look at these fucking people theyve quoted in the op's article, two guys on twitter and another guy that runs a blog. looking through their tweets you know exactly who they are; 4chan chaotic neutral. everything they post eliminates any and all authority, order, understanding, beliefs. mostly just memes. chances are they don't actually believe in anything except what will get a rise out of most people or what they think is funny. /b/ didn't just die and collapse; they just moved on to social media. come on son

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51617963]Calling these guys /b/ is quite an underestimtion. He has also been interviewed by Fox News and New Yorker. I wish he was some obscure /b/-tier troll.[/QUOTE] so memers are alt right?

[QUOTE=TheJoey;51617884]i still can't believe that political people and mainstream media have named something that has been around for more than a decade "alt right" and that it's stuck with even facepunchers although i guess /b/tards and /pol/acks have been called a lot of things in msm, and i guess "trolls" just wasn't good enough now. if we call them "alt-right" then i guess we can somehow attribute their behavior to the right, or conservatives, or republicans, and of course then attribute them to trump. yknow, the alt right pro-trump neo nazi white supremacists that call trump a jew because he doesn't want to outright nuke israel. i guess ?????? i just think the "alt right" thing is fucking nonsense most of the time. look at these fucking people theyve quoted in the op's article, two guys on twitter and another guy that runs a blog. looking through their tweets you know exactly who they are; 4chan chaotic neutral. everything they post eliminates any and all authority, order, understanding, beliefs. mostly just memes. chances are they don't actually believe in anything except what will get a rise out of most people or what they think is funny. /b/ didn't just die and collapse; they just moved on to social media. come on son[/QUOTE] There's a difference between trolling and legitimately thinking the Democratic Party smuggles in child sex slaves through a pizza parlor.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51618032]How the fuck did you boil my post down to this Good job [editline]3rd January 2017[/editline] Proponents of #SickHillary and #HillaryHealth are alt-right They called it memes, I'd call it propoganda[/QUOTE] because you're talking about hashtags and calling it propaganda. hashtags are used as a way for people on twitter to connect to others talking about the same thing, and for tweets to get shown for whoever might be searching for them/looking at what's trending. and tweeting about hillary clinton having seizures and having coughing fits isn't any more propaganda than a tabloid front page about kanye's alien baby.

this is like dashcon but for the far right

[QUOTE=plunger435;51618044]There's a difference between trolling and legitimately thinking the Democratic Party smuggles in child sex slaves through a pizza parlor.[/QUOTE] not everyone that believes in conspiracy theories is a shitposter, and not every shitposter believes in conspiracy theories. the two are not mutually exclusive in any way and i'm not sure what pizzagate has to do with "alt right" or "the deploraball". the idea that dems diddle kids however is an idea that literally anyone can run with for any reason, usually to discredit dems.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;51615091]I think it's funny that someone going to the "DeploraBall," whose name comes from a satirical mocking of Hillary's statement that Trump supporters are all deplorable people, is himself a shining example of the fact that Hillary was not entirely wrong. Like a KKK meetup called "A Gathering of Ignorant, Redneck Racists." Your mocking doesn't mean much when you're obvious evidence that the other side's point has merit.[/QUOTE] in a much cooler world, hillary would have called trump supporters "pig fuckers" and these guys would have twitter usernames like "pig fucker jim"

[QUOTE=TheJoey;51617884]i still can't believe that political people and mainstream media have named something that has been around for more than a decade "alt right" and that it's stuck with even facepunchers although i guess /b/tards and /pol/acks have been called a lot of things in msm, and i guess "trolls" just wasn't good enough now. if we call them "alt-right" then i guess we can somehow attribute their behavior to the right, or conservatives, or republicans, and of course then attribute them to trump. yknow, the alt right pro-trump neo nazi white supremacists that call trump a jew because he doesn't want to outright nuke israel. i guess ?????? i just think the "alt right" thing is fucking nonsense most of the time. look at these fucking people theyve quoted in the op's article, two guys on twitter and another guy that runs a blog. looking through their tweets you know exactly who they are; 4chan chaotic neutral. everything they post eliminates any and all authority, order, understanding, beliefs. mostly just memes. chances are they don't actually believe in anything except what will get a rise out of most people or what they think is funny. /b/ didn't just die and collapse; they just moved on to social media. come on son[/QUOTE] It's not 2008 anymore. The /b/tards' thing was Anonymous and Chanology. Those things aren't held in very high regard these days, even among /b/tards, so why the fuck would they say "lulz lets do that again"? Obviously there some /b/tards within the alt-right for political reasons (and they're probably /pol/lacks first and foremost), but that does not mean that /b/ has a special place within the movement.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51618056]4chan has infiltrated the government.[/QUOTE] in a sense this is correct. 4chan is a generation old now, remember. so is somethingawful. i have no doubt people that once considered themselves or still consider themselves "anon" or "goons" are running some things in our government now. if you were to ask me if they're /b/ incarnate like their offices are just memes and pepes i have no idea but i'd probably say no, it's nothing like that. but the idea that rose within the idea of being completely anonymous on the internet (4chan) is something that gave birth to a weird mix of anti-establishment and absurdist humor never before seen on the internet on such a large scale. i'm sure there are studies on this somewhere. anyway. this social media movement is a mutation of this idea. we're no longer anonymous, but trump pepe maga memes are still incredibly funny to some people. to some, "happy merchant" memes are even funnier. and if the mainstream media, fucking CNN, reports on you and your anime avatar friends as "alt right" in a 100% serious article? double down on it, and it's twice as funny. "alt right" is a blanket term that covers these types of people, to people like cernovich who is a mixture of absurdist humor and actual political coverage, to actual neo nazis and white nationalists. it makes it very convenient to report on this and lump all of these people together into one lovely group of racist mysoginists that hate the black gays. when someone posts an article saying "THE ALT RIGHT TRIED TO MAKE A CONVENTION!!! SAD" and then show two twitter accounts and a blog and basically spend the entire article talking about this guy that was even banned from the con for being too crazy and is not even included in the clique, it's nonsense. it's a nonsense article about something so absurd and out of this world. i still cannot believe that anyone is taking any of this seriously.

[QUOTE=Swiket;51618069]in a much cooler world, hillary would have called trump supporters "pig fuckers" and these guys would have twitter usernames like "pig fucker jim"[/QUOTE] British politics got there first, I'm afraid.

[QUOTE=Aredbomb;51618103]It's not 2008 anymore. The /b/tards' thing was Anonymous and Chanology. Those things aren't held in very high regard these days, even among /b/tards, so why the fuck would they say "lulz lets do that again"? Obviously there some /b/tards within the alt-right for political reasons (and they're probably /pol/lacks first and foremost), but that does not mean that /b/ has a special place within the movement.[/QUOTE] /b/ isn't really a thing since gamergate started. moot locked everything down and pretty much banned anyone that was posting anything that wasn't politically correct, or anything insensitive in any way. it's definitely not the same anymore, sure. but the shit i'm talking about isn't a conscious effort by /b/tards, it's an idea from the old days of /b/. BASICALLY what i'm saying is. "alt right" accounts posting anime pepe trump swastikas is no different from /b/tards posting-- i dont know what was popular back then, goatse i guess? imagine if cnn was reporting about /b/tards photoshopping hillary's face on the dick of meatspin with the text "heil trump." we wouldn't be having this conversation. we'd be asking ourselves "how did media and news get this bad?"

Can somebody give me a run down on Mike Cernovich? I remember him from the Gamergate days, however unlike milo (who obviously had his own agenda) I just remember him being a lawyer that occasionally gave information to people, and I never saw his political alignment get mentioned once. Did he get a political enlightenment?