• Painkiller Deaths Skyrocket 400% in the U.S.
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It's bad you advocate selling them for ~quick cash~
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41327950]Haha wow you really think doing some pain killers one time will get you hooked? [editline]5th July 2013[/editline] No, actually it's a pretty big problem. [url]http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23503485/ns/health-health_care/t/pharmaceuticals-lurking-us-drinking-water/[/url][/QUOTE] Oxycontin is some serious shit, I know a couple guys who are wicked fucked up from that kind of thing seriously i don't care what people do for drugs and whatnot, like it's your life and all, but don't try to preach to me how it's okay to do it cause i've got way too many friends who are dead due to this kind of shit.
Opiates are serious shit. I was hooked for a bit and switched to dope once my supply dried up. Also many people are prescribed mixtures of meds, and opiates + benzos is a very dangerous mixture as well..
[QUOTE=sltungle;41327808]It goes into the sewage system, not directly into the environment. It's also like 9 tablets diluted in HUNDREDS of thousands of litres of water. It's negligible.[/QUOTE] You could've sold that shit for a huge profit. Also tragedy of the commons.
How many more women are there in the US now then in 1999? Don't forget our population rising at an exponential rate.
[QUOTE=Hailedbean;41329606]How many more women are there in the US now then in 1999? Don't forget our population rising at an exponential rate.[/QUOTE] There's also an exponential rise in the male population but those numbers are nowhere near as high.
[QUOTE=Hailedbean;41329606]How many more women are there in the US now then in 1999? Don't forget our population rising at an exponential rate.[/QUOTE] That really doesn't matter. The real problem is the fact people are dying from overdose when they shouldn't be.
Meanwhile while our government demonizes heroin and cocaine as deadly, addictive drugs, thousands of more people are dying from legal, prescribed drugs every day. The two-facedness makes me sick.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;41329924]Meanwhile while our government demonizes heroin and cocaine as deadly, addictive drugs, thousands of more people are dying from legal, prescribed drugs every day. The two-facedness makes me sick.[/QUOTE] People are dying from abuse, if they were used what they were prescribed. Double edged sword etc.
Vicodin is huge in my area. People are always looking for it, and I've taken it a few times myself even though I've never actually been prescribed for it. I don't see why everyone's so big about taking it all the time though, barely if ever does it actually stop the pain I'm in. I'm prescribed Xanax because I have panic disorder, it does it's job but it also makes you very, very fucking tired and that's why I don't like taking it unless it's absolutely necessary. Honestly though, It makes me wonder how many of these people in the numbers were actually prescribed these as opposed to people who were just able to get their hands on it. I don't imagine the death rate was because of accidental overdose, but still. People can be pretty stupid sometimes. Generally you only take one or two of a pill unless directed otherwise. I don't see how that's difficult to understand unless you're an idiot and decide that they aren't working well enough for you so you just take the whole goddamn bottle. Seriously though, my parents were taking Vicodin left and right until my father decided it was time to stop. It didn't like, fuck them up beyond repair but he was in misery after he ran out every month. I was afraid after that, and I don't think I've touched one since. Medical therapist gave them something called Suboxone, which I suppose is used for opiate addiction. Not sure, though. Never bothered to read up about it.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW7R_Gm3lss[/media] Sometimes you get what you need.
[QUOTE=DELL;41329713]That really doesn't matter. The real problem is the fact people are dying from overdose when they shouldn't be.[/QUOTE] This is due to doctors being wary of prescribing oxycodone for more severe pain, because it's been demonized by the media. So they prescribe a drug called Dilaudid. When you eat the pill, like you normally should, only about 10% of it gets absorbed by your body. However, snorting it greatly increases bioavailability to around 70% making it easy to misjudge your doses. So eating this pill, and snorting/shooting it are two completely different things.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;41329924]Meanwhile while our government demonizes heroin and cocaine as deadly, addictive drugs, thousands of more people are dying from legal, prescribed drugs every day. The two-facedness makes me sick.[/QUOTE] but they are deadly addictive drugs still i see your point
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41330301]This is due to doctors being wary of prescribing oxycodone for more severe pain, because it's been demonized by the media. So they prescribe a drug called Dilaudid. When you eat the pill, like you normally should, only about 10% of it gets absorbed by your body. However, snorting it greatly increases bioavailability to around 70% making it easy to misjudge your doses. So eating this pill, and snorting/shooting it are two completely different things.[/QUOTE] That's the problem is people aren't educated on this. Which is why people should be told to do research before doing any drug even if a doctor prescribes it.
Vicodin is for douchebags.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41327950]Haha wow you really think doing some pain killers one time will get you hooked? [editline]5th July 2013[/editline] No, actually it's a pretty big problem. [URL]http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23503485/ns/health-health_care/t/pharmaceuticals-lurking-us-drinking-water/[/URL][/QUOTE] I was unaware of that. Regardless, concentrations of ppb or ppt are rarely a concern for any potentially problematic substance so referring to it as a 'pretty big problem' is a over-blowing the issue just a tad. [QUOTE=zach1193;41328020]Sell them to someone who does take them, and make money in exchange for them, you essentially flushed easy money down the toilet, so yea, in a way, it was kinda dumb.[/QUOTE] Wow. The exact reason I DIDN'T do that was because I didn't want to be, by extension, responsible for creating or fueling a potential addiction, or, worst case scenario, causing a death. I'd be cool with selling unwanted weed or something, but opiates really ARE one of the most dangerous drugs in terms of the risks of getting addicted, and I am NOT going to capitalise on that.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;41329962]People are dying from abuse, if they were used what they were prescribed. Double edged sword etc.[/QUOTE] How do you think they end up abused? "Legitimately" prescribed drugs like Oxycontin or Xanax are terribly addictive, no matter how valid your use is. You think someone who was prescribed Xanax for 6 months is going to cease use? Doctors rarely tell their patients shit when they prescribe them those drugs.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41333510]How do you think they end up abused? "Legitimately" prescribed drugs like Oxycontin or Xanax are terribly addictive, no matter how valid your use is. You think someone who was prescribed Xanax for 6 months is going to cease use? Doctors rarely tell their patients shit when they prescribe them those drugs.[/QUOTE] In relation to the above oxycontin point, interestingly enough a different friend of mine was himself prescribed oxycontin about two months ago for an injury he sustained while playing soccer. After taking two tablets (instead of the one he was meant to) he called me and told me that he could see why people get addicted to the stuff. He didn't take another one after that and just doped himself up on over-the-counter painkillers for the duration of his recovery. Legitimately prescribed painkillers seem like something which could very easily ruin a life. I don't think doctors should prescribe anymore than the bare minimum dose needed for pain relief during recovery. Hell, maybe even UNDER shoot how much they need and if they do legitimately need more, then they can go back and get it. If they don't... good.
It's terrible that people die from simply wanting to be pain-free or to have a few hours of euphoric pleasure.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41333510]How do you think they end up abused? "Legitimately" prescribed drugs like Oxycontin or Xanax are terribly addictive, no matter how valid your use is. You think someone who was prescribed Xanax for 6 months is going to cease use? Doctors rarely tell their patients shit when they prescribe them those drugs.[/QUOTE] Exactly..whether or not you have severe pain, taking morphine or oxycodone multiple times a day for weeks or months creates a dependance issue. Abused or not, taking it multiple times per day is leading to addiction whether or not you're prescribed. It's just how they work in the brain. It is proper procedure to taper someone off of addictive medication when it is time for them to stop, not just cut them off completely. Then they most likely go out to the streets to get the pills illegally, or some other opiate that will take away the sickness. Prescription narcotics are grossly over-prescribed by doctors who do not deal with their patients correctly.
[QUOTE=J!NX;41327746][t]http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/article/667/667924/the-weapons-of-painkiller-hell-wars--20051117051756715-000.jpg[/t] and that was the last we saw of dear old Stormcharger[/QUOTE] I ate them and combined them with codeine and went to work It has been a very good day
[QUOTE=sltungle;41333446]I was unaware of that. Regardless, concentrations of ppb or ppt are rarely a concern for any potentially problematic substance so referring to it as a 'pretty big problem' is a over-blowing the issue just a tad. Wow. The exact reason I DIDN'T do that was because I didn't want to be, by extension, responsible for creating or fueling a potential addiction, or, worst case scenario, causing a death. I'd be cool with selling unwanted weed or something, but opiates really ARE one of the most dangerous drugs in terms of the risks of getting addicted, and I am NOT going to capitalise on that.[/QUOTE] Less dangerous than alcohol there skippy. [editline]8th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Zambies!;41329054]It's bad you advocate selling them for ~quick cash~[/QUOTE] It's bad you think it's bad to sell them for quick cash.
My best friend's Mom committed suicide mainly because of prescription medication, largely painkillers. I've been around these people since I was born. Our parents were best friends and my best friend and I were born nearly at the same time and were practically brothers. But she got those involved in her life and she eventually ended up dead and her family blames my mom because they used to take them together and I haven't seen my best friend in years. Seriously whats with the funny ratings?
[QUOTE=Bradyns;41324802]Over-the-counter euthanasia.[/QUOTE] that sounds like the name of a shitty highschool punk rock band.
I was given painkillers once and it made me go blind for half an hour.
[IMG]http://ready-up.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/louisl4d.jpg[/IMG] This is quite alarming really; just goes to show that regulations don't necessarily create the right results
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[QUOTE=sltungle;41327808]It goes into the sewage system, not directly into the environment. It's also like 9 tablets diluted in HUNDREDS of thousands of litres of water. It's negligible.[/QUOTE] Most sewage treatment plants have no way of actually dealing with most prescription drugs.
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