Unarmed man shot and killed by New Brunswick police, was fleeing before being fired upon - Polidicks

Since New Brunswick is a Canadian province you should probably clarify that it isn't that in the title when posting Like if I was talking about a town named Texas in Canada I wouldn't just say Texas (not real, hypothetical)

Stop doing this shit polieece. What if he got away? He's not gonna somehow disappear to oblivion with a warrant on his ass, he would have been catched sooner or later. Edit: And doesn't becoming a cop require you to pass an endurance test to ensure you can outrun the usual perp?

[QUOTE=GunFox;32582905][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner[/url] In the US, it was this case that established that you can indeed shoot people who are not an immediate threat if you have reason to believe that they will do harm to others if their escape is allowed. Not familiar enough with other nations to figure out their specifics, but it is ultimately necessary. Otherwise people facing life in prison have absolutely no reason NOT to flee. So yes, officers can put you down if you are a non-immediate threat. Don't run from the cops.[/QUOTE] Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32586005]Since New Brunswick is a Canadian province you should probably clarify that it isn't that in the title when posting Like if I was talking about a town named Texas in Canada I wouldn't just say Texas (not real, hypothetical)[/QUOTE] And Brunswick is a suburb in Australia, it could be assumed the article was discussing a new police officer shooting an unarmed suspect in said suburb.

Yeah i would like to hear the police side of the story on this, I mean what happened when they ran around that corner?

[QUOTE=Coridan;32583277]Not really. You don't run, you don't die. You don't run if you aren't a criminal, or have criminal intentions. Therefore, an innocent person would remain safe as they would have no reason to run away. Why is this dumb? Seems logical to me.[/QUOTE] I dunno man I don't think most crimes deserve you to be shot and killed for running away. I mean do you really think you deserve to be shot if you had a little bit of weed on you and you decided to run?

[QUOTE=Murkrow;32586600]Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive[/QUOTE] standard patrolman with a sidearm acting on impulse, adrenaline running extremely high, is not a sharpshooter. now i'm not pretending to know the whole story or know a tonne about shooting but i imagine picking out individual bodyparts on a moving target at any range is probably fairly difficult. for all we know the guy who was shot could have been 50m away by the time the gun was fired

[QUOTE=Murkrow;32586600]Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive[/QUOTE] Police Officers are trained to aim for the center mass, the torso. It's the easiest thing to hit, especially in a hectic situation which is usually when firearms are used. Futhermore, firearms aren't as easy to use as they are in media. If you hold the weapon just a couple milometers off center, you could miss entirely. Chances are more than likely the Officer was aiming for the torso, but was slightly off, hitting him in the head instead. Another thing, not only is shooting someone in the arms or legs harder than shooting the chest / stomach, but it's not non-fatal as portrayed in media. There are major arteries in the arms and legs, and with how thin those are, you have a high chance of hitting one of those arteries which unless quickly and treated, could cause the suspect to die from blood loss.

I think that the taser training has been messed up somewhere along the line. "Okay, this is a gun; use it against people who are running or defenseless." "This is a taser; use it against children and people whom are going to fight back."

[QUOTE=willer;32590374]I think that the taser training has been messed up somewhere along the line. "Okay, this is a gun; use it against people who are running or defenseless." "This is a taser; use it against children and people whom are going to fight back."[/QUOTE] Except taser range is limited severely due to the leads on the dart, and other variables they're meant for close range use.

Oh look, it's this thread again, where everyone is outraged without knowing the full story.

[QUOTE=Murkrow;32586600]Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive[/QUOTE] Real life isn't iron sights and sharpshooting. [editline]2nd October 2011[/editline] You can't just pull out your deagle and snipe the guy from across the map

A policeman shoot to incapacitate, not kill. If a man doesn't heed a policeman's warning to stop when the cop has his gun out, he will be shot. It is unfortunate that the shot killed him but this is because the person has failed to heed the warning of the policeman

[QUOTE=Murkrow;32586600]Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive[/QUOTE]You can still die if you get shot in the leg.

If a civilian shoots a person in the back, it's guaranteed to be charged as murder. If a policeman shoots a person in the back, it's usually paid administrative leave.

[QUOTE=Soldier32;32582665]New Brunswick is no joke.. especially around night. I live less than 30 min away from there and people are crazy. Lots of stabbing, fights, and muggings around there.[/QUOTE] Thats why you stay to the safety of Rutgers University. :v: It's like a green zone in Afghanistan lol.

[QUOTE=Murkrow;32586600]Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? It's not easy to aim accurately, but more to the point, police officers aren't trained to aim for anything other than the center of mass (torso), because there is no way to shoot someone non-lethally. Shoot them in the leg? Clip the femoral artery, they bleed out in minutes. Shoulder? Shatter the bone, drive fragments into the heart, instant death. Gut? Shred the intestines and liver, it's a slow and agonizing way to die. And no matter where you hit, hydrostatic shock destroys organs as far as a foot away from the impact point. Guns are designed to kill. If you fire a gun for any reason other than to kill or to practice how to kill, you are grossly misusing a weapon.

[QUOTE=BCell;32603260]A policeman shoot to incapacitate, not kill. If a man doesn't heed a policeman's warning to stop when the cop has his gun out, he will be shot. It is unfortunate that the shot killed him but this is because the person has failed to heed the warning of the policeman[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure a gun is made to kill. A tazer however is made to incapacitate. [editline]3rd October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Murkrow;32586600]Shot in the back of the head, what the fuck Couldn't you just, oh I don't know, shoot at the legs or the guts? The first one prevents you from running (in the vast majority of cases) and the second causes quite horrible pain that almost surely incapacitates you - and you're likely to survive[/QUOTE] I think your experience with gun aiming has to be rather short to believe you can precisely aim at one's limb and shoot a single bullet without ending up killing him because of the loss of blood, massive internal damage (shooting the guts can have some fucked up consequences) and just killing him slowly and painfully. [editline]3rd October 2011[/editline] I find it stupid to shoot someone like that to stop him (hence that one kid who got shot after a fight in a bus) but you usually don't fucking run away when a policeman comes and talk to you, especially if you're an adult and in a difficult city.

[QUOTE=BCell;32603260]A policeman shoot to incapacitate, not kill. If a man doesn't heed a policeman's warning to stop when the cop has his gun out, he will be shot. It is unfortunate that the shot killed him but this is because the person has failed to heed the warning of the policeman[/QUOTE] Sorry but that's fucked up. I wish police could prioritize over chasing and capturing the criminal instead of shooting him if he doesn't immediately surrender for reason or another.