[QUOTE=SeamanStains;43971450][img]http://www.buzina.org/images/stories/articles/01_boyoviki/ximage002.jpg.pagespeed.ic.ITc97QBdOm.jpg[/img][img]http://diaryofdaedalus.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/svoboda-party-nazi3.jpg[/img]
Totally not remotely looking like nazi's here.[/QUOTE]
i would nazi it up anytime with those dudes
They don't need the government to make them look bad
they're fucking awful enough already
honestly the worst political faction in this entire situation
and the ones you want furthest away from power
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971469]lmao
"Title - Stop the Criminal Activities of Organised Jewry
Signed by Tyahnybok and 17 others
Lists Jewish businessmen, who got rich in the 1990s, and claims they control Ukrainian media
Describes Zionism as "Jewish Nazism" and warns of "genocide" through the impoverishment of Ukrainians
Demands investigation into the activities of Jewish organisations headed by people "suspected of serious crimes""[/QUOTE]
lol I'll need your source on that one, there's literally nothing written about that in Ukrainian sources.
There might be some far-right radicals mixed into the protests, but the protest is far from ruined by these guys.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971502]lol I'll need your source on that one, there's literally nothing written about that in Ukrainian sources.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20824693[/url]
unless you think the bbc is part of this organised jewry against the good ukrainian people
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971482]They don't need the government to make them look bad
they're fucking awful enough already
honestly the worst political faction in this entire situation
and the ones you want furthest away from power[/QUOTE]
That means a lot from somebody heavily influenced by disinformation.
[QUOTE=VOSK;43971504]There might be some far-right radicals mixed into the protests, but the protest is far from ruined by these guys.[/QUOTE]
I know, I was just amused that posters like Turing were in complete disbelief that they even existed in the first place.
Or that any policemen had been shot by them ect.
[editline]19th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971533]That means a lot from somebody heavily influenced by disinformation.[/QUOTE]
sorry the jews got to me before you could save me
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971533]That means a lot from somebody heavily influenced by disinformation.[/QUOTE]
Now whos using ad hominen.
[img]http://diaryofdaedalus.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/svoboda-party-nazi4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i0.wp.com/misguidedchildren.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/neonazis-involved-in-ukraine-protests.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.buzina.org/images/stories/articles/01_boyoviki/ximage013.jpg.pagespeed.ic.eB-WAA1lgs.jpg[/img]
look at all these government people pretending to be svoboda, wow
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971542]I know, I was just amused that posters like Turing were in complete disbelief that they even existed in the first place.
Or that any policemen had been shot by them ect.
[editline]19th February 2014[/editline]
sorry the jews got to me before you could save me[/QUOTE]
But they don't exist! Its police in disguises to spread misinformation!
The police in disguises shoot at the police to make the police shoot at the protesters so the police disguised as protesters can shoot back at the police!
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971525][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20824693[/url]
unless you think the bbc is part of this organised jewry against the good ukrainian people[/QUOTE]
"2005"
Nice letter.
yes but svaboda is literally a tiny little part of the protestors
when everybody and their grandmother is out there in the streets theres bound to be some dumbasses too
svaboda is really fucking stupid tho
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yJ1x6Ds.png[/IMG]
literal atomic nazis
[editline]19th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;43971582]But they don't exist! Its police in disguises to spread misinformation!
The police in disguises shoot at the police to make the police shoot at the protesters so the police disguised as protesters can shoot back at the police![/QUOTE]
are you fucking serious
i have relatives who are living in Kyiv right now, including my own father
you seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that there have been fucktons of paid provocateurs that are there to stir shit up
this has been heavily documented
you are saying that i implied that those paid "titushky" make up the party Svaboda
thats not at all what i said or believe
[QUOTE=Turing;43971592]yes but svaboda is literally a tiny little part of the protestors
when everybody and their grandmother is out there in the streets theres bound to be some dumbasses too
svaboda is really fucking stupid tho
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/yJ1x6Ds.png[/IMG]
literal atomic nazis[/QUOTE]
The only part I really think is dumb is the dismissal of employees.
No party is really perfect, but Svoboda is better than nothing. The country needs a bit more of nationalism since half of it is badly Russificated.
The islamists were only a tiny part of the opposition in Syria, especially in the first couple of years.
Sorry if I seem to be overly cautious at bad groups using these situations to further their own agenda, and make things worse for everyone else.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971642]The islamists were only a tiny part of the opposition in Syria, especially in the first couple of years.
Sorry if I seem to be overly cautious at bad groups using these situations to further their own agenda, and make things worse for everyone else.[/QUOTE]
You can apply this to every civil war ever.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971647]You can apply this to every civil war ever.[/QUOTE]
and this invalidates my point how
or are you supporting it
are you saying we shouldn't be cautious of these groups?
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971660]and this invalidates my point how
or are you supporting it[/QUOTE]
I'm saying that every civil war will have some bad groups.
But I don't think it should stop people from fighting for their rights.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971672]I'm saying that every civil war will have some bad groups.[/QUOTE]
yes and in this one they're called Right Sector and Svoboda
but please continue to defend them
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971679]yes and in this one they're called Right Sector and Svoboda
but please continue to defend them[/QUOTE]
I know I support Svoboda and I'm okay with it.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971690]I know I support Svoboda and I'm okay with it.[/QUOTE]
well there is no surprise here
supporting a party that is even worse than the current government by a significant margin, and that is really saying something
Sweet mother of raptor Jesus, Svoboda is composed of scary tier turbo nazis with absolutely no common sense whatsoever.
If they get into power, then expect both Russia AND all EU countries to cut ties with Ukraine, or even imposing massive sanction on it.
They're literally worse than the current government who's busy going ass-to-mouth with Russia's dick.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;43971691]well there is no surprise here[/QUOTE]
Each of your posts look like you're trying to provoke me.
Media feared that extremists were among the rebel ranks in the Libyan Civil War, protests in Egypt basically the whole of the Arab Spring.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971672]I'm saying that every civil war will have some bad groups.
But I don't think it should stop people from fighting for their rights.[/QUOTE]
It is good that people fight for their rights.
It is bad, at least in my opinion, for groups to use people fighting for their rights to further their own aims.
Especially when they escalate the violence to the point where police and protesters are killed.
The situation could have been solved peacefully, instead the protests became riots when the opposition realised they will get more from this if it becomes a civil war, without regard for people dying.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;43971710]Media feared that extremists were among the rebel ranks in the Libyan Civil War, protests in Egypt basically the whole of the Arab Spring.[/QUOTE]
and they were
[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43971700]Sweet mother of raptor Jesus, Svoboda is composed of scary tier turbo nazis with absolutely no common sense whatsoever.
If they get into power, then expect both Russia AND all EU countries to cut ties with Ukraine, or even imposing massive sanction on it.
They're literally worse than the current government who's busy going ass-to-mouth with Russia's dick.[/QUOTE]
What?
Svoboda isn't composed of turbo nazis.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;43971710]Media feared that extremists were among the rebel ranks in the Libyan Civil War, protests in Egypt basically the whole of the Arab Spring.[/QUOTE]
They were, the new libyan regime is still trying to get rid of the remnants of those groups. There have been kidnappings and bombings.
edit: Gaddaffis amazonian guard - a bunch of women kidnapped and forced into what was effectively government sanctioned rape where hunted down, raped and killed after the gadaffi regime fell. Its not black and white.
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971704]Each of your posts look like you're trying to provoke me.[/QUOTE]
i'm a paid titushky
[QUOTE=Ghost656;43971726]What?
Svoboda isn't composed of turbo nazis.[/QUOTE]
Well perhaps they're not turbo...
The thing people seem to be missing is that if Ukraine goes to the E.U. instead of Russia, their chances of actually having fascists in power is [b]lower[/b] :v:
I mean, which community has a worse modern track-record of beating foreigners and gays: The Russian community, or the European community?
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