[QUOTE=darkedone02;43978621]all you need to be able to hi-jack those tanks if you hit hard.[/QUOTE]
Tank hatches are sealed, the crew inside has guns and infantry support, and your average citizen probably doesn't know how to use a tank at all.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;43978718]war profiteering[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the CIA, ATF, and FBI would totally be fine with selling arms to an unstable country and give them to rebels. Its totally full proof.
[QUOTE=PaChIrA;43978985]Tank hatches are sealed, the crew inside has guns and infantry support, and your average citizen probably doesn't know how to use a tank at all.[/QUOTE]
The citizens have numbers blowtorches and gasoline
[editline]19th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr.Goodcat;43979082]Yeah, the CIA, ATF, and FBI would totally be fine with selling arms to an unstable country and give them to rebels. Its totally full proof.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's not like they've done it before and it went wrong.
[QUOTE=darkedone02;43978581]welp, time to find a way for people to hi-jack those tanks or get out the RPG's or home made explosives... target the tracks so it remains immobilized.[/QUOTE]
They just need to use the Hungarian protester's strategy and bring their own :v:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohz9NzpkrQ8[/media]
[quote]
President Obama said Wednesday that the Ukrainian government would face "consequences" if it crosses the line in cracking down on protesters in Kiev.
[/quote]
I just wonder what "peaceful solution" dear Mr. President would find if people started making barricades in Washington and throwing Molotov's at the police. Who the hell is he to make such statements?
[quote] to show restraint, to not resort to violence in dealing with peaceful protestors. [/quote]
Peaceful protes-- oh, you mean the people setting streets on fire, throwing molotov's at the police etc?
[quote]We’ve also said we expect peaceful protestors to remain peaceful and we’ll be monitoring very closely the situation[/quote]
Yeah, a bit late for that.
Mind your own damn business and good luck getting congress to support your "consequences". Europe has enough power to intervene without US tentacles in every affair.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/02/19/obama-on-ukraine-there-will-be-consequences-if-people-step-over-the-line/[/url]
What a clown.
As an American, I don't know how I feel about the idea of Russia trying to squash the Ukrainian rebellion currently going on.
[QUOTE=Solomon;43979749]As an American, I don't know how I feel about the idea of Russia trying to squash the Ukrainian rebellion currently going on.[/QUOTE]
Mad as hell.
As a danishman, I think its a bit scary aswell.
This is scary, we could be looking at another civil war and potentially another black page for Europe.
Wait, I've read that "protesters" actually killed some officers and have used snipers against them. I can't call you a protester if you actually kill people. I've also heard a lot how a major part of these protesters are just hooligans which wouldn't be surprising considering the fact that it's Eastern Europe and it's p much the same in any country here.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;43982097]Wait, I've read that "protesters" actually killed some officers and have used snipers against them. I can't call you a protester if you actually kill people. I've also heard a lot how a major part of these protesters are just hooligans which wouldn't be surprising considering the fact that it's Eastern Europe and it's p much the same in any country here.[/QUOTE]
Careful bro, people here don't like you challenging their unswerving perception that the rioters are all goodies. One guy even went so far to say that the police were commiting false flag operations against themselves, dressed as protesters.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;43982127]Careful bro, people here don't like you challenging their unswerving perception that the rioters are all goodies. One guy even went so far to say that the police were commiting false flag operations against themselves, dressed as protesters.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1911765_235107266673083_225975031_n.jpg[/IMG]
Killed today.
More pictures of hooligans;
[IMG]https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1904192_570566629706345_309956998_n.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=can man;43982144][t]https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1911765_235107266673083_225975031_n.jpg[/t]
Killed today.[/QUOTE]
Police have died as well.
I don't understand how you can be so one sided.
[editline]20th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=can man;43982156]More pictures of hooligans;
[t]https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1904192_570566629706345_309956998_n.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
The old straw man. I read ya buddy.
I think it's safe to say both sides have there share of bad people. No one is "pure" in this conflict.
Can't we just agree on that?
How can you by so cynical? Someone ordered the police to utilize weapons as tool, how can such a person ever lead?
[editline]20th February 2014[/editline]
Captured riot police have been young people given orders to equip a shield and go to the front line.
What sort of government should be allowed to do that?
[QUOTE=Vilusia;43982181]I think it's safe to say both sides have there share of bad people. No one is "pure" in this conflict.
Can't we just agree on that?[/QUOTE]
Every war ever
[QUOTE=can man;43982185]How can you by so cynical? Someone ordered the police to utilize weapons as tool, how can such a person ever lead?
[editline]20th February 2014[/editline]
Captured riot police have been young people given orders to equip a shield and go to the front line.
What sort of government should be allowed to do that?[/QUOTE]
What sort of government use riot police to supress a riot?
Most governments I guess. The ones which don't use soldiers.
The rioters use firearms against the police, the police should be armed to deal with the lethal threat posed by the protesters.
[url]http://blogs.thenational.ae/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Kiev_005.jpg[/url]
Your protesters are not all nice people, there was a cease fire today. That could have been used to treat the wounded and negotiate terms. The government want this to end peacefully, they want to negotiate terms. Those stupid laws could be reversed and peoples rights could be kept.
Instead the fighting goes on. Elements of the protest see it as a chance to gain power and force their politics onto people who didn't vote them in.
edit: stop for a moment to think. Ceasefire and peace has been offered several times and protesters haven't taken it. They, or malignant elements in the protesters are purposefully escalating the situation.
Iirc the law was revoked during the last protests, though that was an empty gesture, the president lost his legitimacy by proposing/supporting it.
And of course there will be anarchists with molotows and guns, they will always be there when they have a chance to throw stuff at people.
[url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd7_1392895682[/url]
The death toll is going to climb a lot in the next couple days.
The revoking of the law is as empty as the prevention of SOPA.
It will come back sooner or later under a different name.
These people are fighting to keep their rights intact permanently.
[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43982282][url]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dd7_1392895682[/url]
The death toll is going to climb a lot in the next couple days.[/QUOTE]
Christ, that's horrible to watch.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;43982239]Every war ever[/QUOTE]
Vilusia, I usually don't argue about ratings, but now I'm just curious: why have you rated me dumb when I basically agreed with you?
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;43982240]What sort of government use riot police to supress a riot?
Most governments I guess. The ones which don't use soldiers.
The rioters use firearms against the police, the police should be armed to deal with the lethal threat posed by the protesters.
[url]http://blogs.thenational.ae/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Kiev_005.jpg[/url]
Your protesters are not all nice people, there was a cease fire today. That could have been used to treat the wounded and negotiate terms. The government want this to end peacefully, they want to negotiate terms. Those stupid laws could be reversed and peoples rights could be kept.
Instead the fighting goes on. Elements of the protest see it as a chance to gain power and force their politics onto people who didn't vote them in.
edit: stop for a moment to think. Ceasefire and peace has been offered several times and protesters haven't taken it. They, or malignant elements in the protesters are purposefully escalating the situation.[/QUOTE]
What is your problem with protesters?
Everything you posted has something negative about the opposition and even leaders such as Klitschko.
[QUOTE=WhyNott;43982333]Vilusia, [B]I usually don't argue about ratings[/B], but now I'm just curious: why have you rated me dumb when I basically agreed with you?[/QUOTE]
Listen to yourself.
Also america is always pure. Don't let anyone tell you any different.
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Jokes people come on.
Also, Svoboda has it's own site. For people such as NoDachi, before jumping to conclusions from reading BBC or the horribly mistranslated wikipedia.
Check their site out for a proper written program, it's also more detailed than the wikipedia one.
[url]http://en.svoboda.org.ua/[/url]
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